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wacaga
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Re: Current theory on the 8 empty slots

aliceinwunderland wrote:
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tyty2001 wrote:
yep cause i have 68 cards and im missing 10 (im missing cards 31 and 60) so ya i think the 8 cards that are missing are the other sharable code cards cause arent we missing 8 of those and the sharable code cards dont help us at all really thats what i saw online at 39clues.com
There are no more shareable codes. The 8 cards you are referring to are Physical cards of the 400's which have duplicate codes of the 1's you already have.

Wacaga, I am not following your logic. Isn't tyty2001 referring to the same 8 empty slots that you are referring to? The perfectly valid idea that tyty2001 puts forth is that the 8 empty card slots will be sharable cards. How can you say that there are no more sharable card codes? What do you base that upon?

I agree with tyty2001 that there must be more sharable card codes. And I think they will be made available with the release of Books 2 and 3. Just my opinion... so nix my idea that we use the slots for combined cards and replace it with this. Smile
The sharable codes (400's) are PROMO cards to promote The 39 Clues "Series". The promotional period for the 39 Clues is over and has been for over a month. The cards are from 400 to 416 (17 in all). They are Virtual, Physical or Both. Here's the #'s of the 9 sharable codes: 404-407, 410, 413-416. That leaves 8 cards that we all thought could be sharable. It didn't happen! Someone found a Physical card #400 (1 of the missing Cool. The code was entered but Card 400 didn't show up. Instead, #416 popped up again, and later discovered 400 & 416 were identical (including the code), except the Title of the Card. UH-OH now there's only 7 cards left & we're missing 8 UH-OH! There's more, but go to various.wikibruce.com/39clues to see for yourself. Later.

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Re: Current theory on the 8 empty slots

wacaga wrote:
The sharable codes (400's) are PROMO cards to promote The 39 Clues "Series". The promotional period for the 39 Clues is over and has been for over a month.

Are you a book seller or something? I'm just curious where you are getting your data. I could understand that Scholastic might put a limit to the promotional period for a book, but why do you doubt that they would do promotional things for each book. Usually each book in a series gets promoted. I am sure that the authors of each book will do the rounds, etc. Granted they are trying alot of new things with the 39 clues, but I think that they will do something to promote each book. It seems reasonable to think there would be sharable code for each book -- not that they do much for you (as tyty2001 said).


wacaga wrote:
The cards are from 400 to 416 (17 in all). They are Virtual, Physical or Both. Here's the #'s of the 9 sharable codes: 404-407, 410, 413-416. That leaves 8 cards that we all thought could be sharable. It didn't happen! Someone found a Physical card #400 (1 of the missing Cool. The code was entered but Card 400 didn't show up. Instead, #416 popped up again, and later discovered 400 & 416 were identical (including the code), except the Title of the Card. UH-OH now there's only 7 cards left & we're missing 8 UH-OH!

Why couldn't there be a PROMO card #418? That would still give us 8 cards to fill the empty spots.

wacaga wrote:
There's more, but go to various.wikibruce.com/39clues to see for yourself. Later.

I went to that URL, but all it said was:
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There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.

Perhaps you meant http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues? I went there and I didn't see anything there that provides any information in addition to what had been posted to this forum.

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Re: Current theory on the 8 empty slots

aliceinwunderland wrote:
wacaga wrote:
The sharable codes (400's) are PROMO cards to promote The 39 Clues "Series". The promotional period for the 39 Clues is over and has been for over a month.

Are you a book seller or something? I'm just curious where you are getting your data. I could understand that Scholastic might put a limit to the promotional period for a book, but why do you doubt that they would do promotional things for each book. Usually each book in a series gets promoted. I am sure that the authors of each book will do the rounds, etc. Granted they are trying alot of new things with the 39 clues, but I think that they will do something to promote each book. It seems reasonable to think there would be sharable code for each book -- not that they do much for you (as tyty2001 said).


wacaga wrote:
The cards are from 400 to 416 (17 in all). They are Virtual, Physical or Both. Here's the #'s of the 9 sharable codes: 404-407, 410, 413-416. That leaves 8 cards that we all thought could be sharable. It didn't happen! Someone found a Physical card #400 (1 of the missing Cool. The code was entered but Card 400 didn't show up. Instead, #416 popped up again, and later discovered 400 & 416 were identical (including the code), except the Title of the Card. UH-OH now there's only 7 cards left & we're missing 8 UH-OH!

Why couldn't there be a PROMO card #418? That would still give us 8 cards to fill the empty spots.

wacaga wrote:
There's more, but go to various.wikibruce.com/39clues to see for yourself. Later.

I went to that URL, but all it said was:
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There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.

Perhaps you meant http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues? I went there and I didn't see anything there that provides any information in addition to what had been posted to this forum.
Since you asked I am a HS Math teacher, but more importantly, the Mentor to my 7 & 8yo boys. The 39 Clues has provided a means for my kids to READ, comprehend, to use logic and solve puzzles. The 39 Clues has brought us closer as a family and virtually shut down Video Games & TV. And it's just the beginning! My postings are a reflection of their thoughts with my approval. They are having a blast as well as me. This is what they think of your comments. "PROMO" is for the beginning of something". Knowing them, I think they mean these cards are not for any specific book, but for the entire concept and ideas of the 39 Clues as a "SERIES". They have more to say, but it's late.

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Re: Current theory on the 8 empty slots

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Since you asked I am a HS Math teacher, but more importantly, the Mentor to my 7 & 8yo boys. The 39 Clues has provided a means for my kids to READ, comprehend, to use logic and solve puzzles. The 39 Clues has brought us closer as a family and virtually shut down Video Games & TV. And it's just the beginning! My postings are a reflection of their thoughts with my approval. They are having a blast as well as me. This is what they think of your comments. "PROMO" is for the beginning of something". Knowing them, I think they mean these cards are not for any specific book, but for the entire concept and ideas of the 39 Clues as a "SERIES". They have more to say, but it's late.

That's great! I know that alot of kids these days are simply not interested in reading, which is a shame. Initially, I thought that multi-media nature of The 39 Clues was just a new way to get us to spend money. I am now of the opinion that if it gets reluctant readers reading, it is a good thing.

I don't disregard that your interpretation of the PROMO cards may be correct. I was just wondering what logic was used to come to the conclusion that the promo cards were only for the kick off the series and not for each book. I figured that you must have some information that I had not yet heard.

There was a posting earlier in this forum by HighTideOnRhum who had communicated with Scholastic. The customer rep indicated "The promotional time is not known", as well as their intention to maintain the virtual promotional cards on the Scholastic site in the future.

I will stick with my interpretation that Scholastic might have promo cards for each book. It sounds like no one knows for sure yet. We should know soon, though!

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Re: Current theory on the 8 empty slots

aliceinwunderland wrote:
wacaga wrote:
tyty2001 wrote:
yep cause i have 68 cards and im missing 10 (im missing cards 31 and 60) so ya i think the 8 cards that are missing are the other sharable code cards cause arent we missing 8 of those and the sharable code cards dont help us at all really thats what i saw online at 39clues.com
There are no more shareable codes. The 8 cards you are referring to are Physical cards of the 400's which have duplicate codes of the 1's you already have.

Wacaga, I am not following your logic. Isn't tyty2001 referring to the same 8 empty slots that you are referring to? The perfectly valid idea that tyty2001 puts forth is that the 8 empty card slots will be sharable cards. How can you say that there are no more sharable card codes? What do you base that upon?

I agree with tyty2001 that there must be more sharable card codes. And I think they will be made available with the release of Books 2 and 3. Just my opinion... so nix my idea that we use the slots for combined cards and replace it with this. Smile


thanx for agreeing with me because thats whati was thinking also
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The 8 Empty Slots

Just a bunch of comments. 1. All 400's are Common. 404-407 are all SECRET (2 CAHILL & 2 LUCIAN). 410 is a dupe of 406. 413-416 are all AGENT (2 CAHILL, 1 LUCIAN & 1 TOMAS). So we got 4 Secret, a dupe, then 4 Agent.------No EKATS. 2. Here's the 8 Empty Slots my kids found a couple weeks ago, all common in these slots: 71 Cahill Agent 72 Cahill Agent 73 Lucian Agent 74 Tomas Agent 75 Lucian Secret 76 Lucian Secret 77 Cahill Secret 78 Tomas Agent.------No EKATS. Don't ask how they did this because I still am not sure. All I know is this: They say "Dad you know when you point at a card, it tells you something?" I say Yes although I don't have the foggiest. Then, "Sometimes you don't even have to point to it because it's already there, even the 1's we don't know." You know all I know about this. 3. We know Book 2 & 3 cards are not included at this time. We also know from the Photo Credits, Cards 400-416 are the only 1's sharable (9 of them & others as Dupes) at this time. 4. Although these 8 slots appear to be sharable promo cards, the Photo Credits prove otherwise (400-416). These cards are staring at us NOW as if they should be availale NOW. Remember Book 2 cards are not available. This just doesn't add up!

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Re: The 8 Empty Slots

wacaga wrote:
They say "Dad you know when you point at a card, it tells you something?" I say Yes although I don't have the foggiest. Then, "Sometimes you don't even have to point to it because it's already there, even the 1's we don't know." Ok, I'll leave it at that. Later.

I think I know what your boys are saying. When you roll over a card that you have, it provides the following information:
    card qty
    card title
    branch (ekat, janus, lucian, tomas, cahill)
    type (agent, founder, location, secret, replicator, money prestige)
    rarity (super-common, common, uncommon, rare, ultra-rare)


When you roll over a card that you don't have, it usually doesn't show you anything. However, I have seen on occasion after I use the "sort" some of the cards I don't have show some info without rolling over the card. The card quantity is 0, the card title is missing, but the other data is there. I have not been able to determine the exact sequence that creates the anomaly, just when I use sort, it occurs regularly.

When I recently reported this bug to the 39 clues help, they responded:
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Thanks for the tip. It doesn't look like that gives away any hidden information, but we didn't know that could happen. Let us know if you notice when it happens to you.


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Discovering info on cards I don't have

I was following links on http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues. It looks like he has links to all the articles that you have access to when you get a card. Anyway, I was checking out the links for cards that I don't have and I saw the note on #28 CERN, which reads in part:
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We fully expect our research will allow us to find the other branches' ingredients...
Awhile back, I posted about how I thought maybe clues "belonged" to certain branches (either hidden or protected by). For instance, Mission 1 referred to the Titanic clue as being an Ekat clue. This CERN article certainly supports that idea. That is not earth-shattering; however, I was intrigued by the term "ingredients". What are we making?

The next article of interest was #11 Hidden Notes. The name of this page is "11-rembrandtrsquos-secret". Most if not all of the pages are named using the convention of cardNumber-cardTitle. Anyone think that might be a hidden note?
EDIT: I did a search on google and came up with something. It seems that "rsquo" is a code for an apostrophe, so the Hidden Notes page is basically named "Rembrandt's Secret". When I did a search for that, I came up with a couple of different things. The most likely option is that Rembrandt used secret thinning agents in his oil paints. Perhaps that will be one of the clues in the future.

The other thing I read that raised questions was #66 Blackberry. Who is "F"? My guess is Fiske Cahill. Someone else said they thought that he was not dead. The only other F I can think of is Alana Flores.

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Crossed branches

What would happen if two branches had a baby together, what branch would the baby belong to?
i think this is what happened to DAn and Amy because it says Dan is Tomas and Amy is Ekat.

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Happy, where does it say that Amy is Ekat and Dan is Tomas???
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In the video it shows their pictures and the branches under them. This might be what he is refering to.
And the cards thing is doing my head in. One day I have 70, the next I have over 100.
When is the next task going to come out? Do you think it will be nothing to do until book 2?

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Card number 411: g69jwr249t
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/young_times/

click on the 39 clues.

This leads me to believe the other cards are shared as well. only 7 more to go!

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one more surveillance code: 22ktg2wkx2

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Card Counts and Nothing to do

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And the cards thing is doing my head in. One day I have 70, the next I have over 100.
Do you see it in that order -- 70, then 100, or is it the other way around?
They do have an error in the code that tallies the card count. As mentioned earlier, they know about it. The error comes into play when you add multiples, it increases the count. Then the next time you log in, it only counts the unique types instead of the total count.

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When is the next task going to come out? Do you think it will be nothing to do until book 2?

While they have not released a new Mission, I have found tons of 39 Clues things to occupy my time. It is becoming quite an obsession to see what "secrets" I can uncover. Who knows how much I am reading into it that isn't really there. LOL. I am hopeful that there are multiple layers of the game. It has to be easy enough for the young ones, but I am finding interesting tidbits when I look a little deeper. I have wondered if I should try reading some of the books that are mentioned. I have never read Frankenstein. It might shed light some aspect of the game that I was oblivious to previously.

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Card number 411 and other stuff

katsmom wrote:
Card number 411: g69jwr249t

This leads me to believe the other cards are shared as well. only 7 more to go!


Yes! I'll bet they release a card per week leading up to the second book release. Forget what I said before about the virtual cards not being any help... so many codes... awesome stuff!! Thanks for finding and posting it, kats_mom!

I have not actually saved off all of the virtual cards that have been posted on websites. I see now that I should have been. I know that there are some sites with thumbnails, but I think I need the full-size PDFs so that the info on the cards are readable. Has anyone been saving those PDFs of the virtual sharable cards?

I am a little disappointed that William McIntyre is tailing A&D. Why does he need to follow them secretly? Do you think he is a good guy? As someone else pointed out, he may also be a Cahill. So he could be using A&D to lead him to the next clue. Of course, he could also be looking out for them.

So, he is communicating with the Man in Black that A&D have seen following them. Since we also know that he is in communication with "F", can we make the leap that "F" is the Man in Black?

============== Other Stuff =========================
Not sure if this is a new code or not, but it did add an additional copy of #414 for me: G69JTFHR9T. I found it at http://www.scholastic.com.au/files/schools/bookclub/aust/brochures/current/Star_7_08.pdf

Has everyone seen this "leaked content" from book 2? http://www.scholastic.com/kids/39clues/assets/FalseNote_Bk02.pdf

Scholastic now has a place where you can submit questions to be asked of Gordon Korman, author of The 39 Clues Book 2: One False Note. Go to http://opinio.scholastic.com/opinio/s?s=2997 by 21 November to submit a question. Since not all submitted questions will be answered during the webcast, starting Monday 11/24, we can help choose one question that will definitely make the cut and be answered live.

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