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[TRAILHEAD?] The Citizens of Virtue
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FractalP
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Is it just me or do the birthdates for the lead disciples seem a bit out of place? I'll look into it when I have enough time Very Happy

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worthy_m
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I was thinking the same about the names - all of them with a middle initial.
I've written them all down, and the dates of birth for each line too, but I could be miles off course here. Not sure whether the towns and states should be used too. Totally unsure where to go with this.

Quote:

ALG ACL VHR 4 4
JJK DPH COM 8 8
EMB GEB MKL 12 24
SFE EDS KXV 6 8
SAV JMG MBS 1 6
LCU LIW TFE 2 19
MZC WJN KTO 12 8
IMM APR RSL 7 2
BND SEF CAG 5 25
ARB DVK DJO 10 9
BHS SKJ AFD 3 16
XXS MWC RLR 11 17
AEW OGB VTH 7 2
MMM ERK CHM 9 20
DRZ YYK DNT 5 2
ACP TVF LCR 8 19
TJO BBL TFJ 4 13
JWL GQW EGE 6 21
DLN SYB DSM 11 5
LKA BDW SRE 6 21


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Rich Reder
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Savannah

Posted on her Facebook wall during the night:
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Savannah Merks is counting down the moments to the decision. She is praying that the Lord will prevail against all comers!


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FractalP
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Sad I'm gonna miss Savannah, it'll be sad to see her go...

Just kidding!

Anyways, running the letters and numbers worthy_m posted through anagram thingies etc as well as my brain Razz and getting nothing as yet...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:03 am
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Qaqaq
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You're not crazy, Donimo; I noticed that phone number discrepancy in the video at the time.

I do think, though, that the MIR in the current video has got to be significant; it's just too weird and noticeable not to be. Since we haven't used TITLE PAGES yet, perhaps it ties to that somehow.

We are getting nowhere fast this week, it seems, so let me just throw out my thoughts and observations and see what sticks...


    The tasks all read very naturally. I would guess that we're not taking any letters out of them.

    We have to be using the letters in the names. A name like "Stephanie R. Ere" just screams "yeah, we were forced to use that" from the puzzlemakers.

    Everyone has a middle initial, but there aren't enough vowels among them to anagram into a message, and there are enough duplicates that they seem unlikely to be an ordering mechanism.

    Everyone has a city and state abbreviation.

    Only the leaders have birthdates. Because these can obviously be taken as two numbers (e.g. 4/4) my first thought was to use those as an index into something -- the quote, the task, etc. But I haven't gotten that to work. It could be that ordering by birthdate is significant somehow, though my feeling is that the leaders stay put and we're supposed to reorder the disciple chains to match them.

    Only the leaders have quotations. The quotations are mostly famous ones; some are attributable (e.g., the first is Yoda, and Chohan's is Voltaire) and some aren't. If we're taking something from these, then, it's probably a few letters, or one or two words at most.

    Only the leaders have smileys. The smileys occur after the quotations, making me think that they're tied together. The names of the smileys strike me as the likeliest thing to be significant about them.


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Xemu
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Qaqaq wrote:
Only the leaders have smileys. The smileys occur after the quotations, making me think that they're tied together. The names of the smileys strike me as the likeliest thing to be significant about them.


If you look at the positions where these smileys occur within this image:

http://www.emofaces.com/wallpaper/1024x768/emoticons-selection-one.jpg

in the order they appear on the Job List page, they form a distinct path (not counting the few that don't appear on that page) that seems like it could hardly be coincidental. (I'm hypothesizing that the 7th might be Dented and the 18th Grandpa instead of what was suggested earlier.)
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FractalP
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Notice that the path crosses the Surgeon and Bandaged smilies...

EDIT: New DI!
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Who is like the Lord? Hallowed
is his name.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Errrrm, first thing I thought of was Zeus, cos he looks like God. But apparantly, Michael in Hebrew means "Who is like God?". So does Micah, which do you think?


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catherwood
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FractalP wrote:
EDIT: New DI!
Quote:
Who is like the Lord? Hallowed
is his name.

I don't mind bumping the thread for today's update. (When the thread was still buried, I thought no one had seen today's DI yet, oh well.) I'm probably being too literal, but wouldn't we want a name that means 'hallowed'? I've only found 'Tabarak' so far...

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Projectyl
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If it's MICHAEL (and I suspect it is), and the previous two are CHINESE and RIDDLES, all the answers so far this week have seven letters.

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tinhorn
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I'll offer up the possibility of ART, since it is (in another sense) a name appearing in the line: "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name." It also feels like a good combination with CHINESE and RIDDLES. Though of course this is pretty stretchy, and we'll need to see how things play out.

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Rich Reder
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Savannah

Just posted on Facebook this evening:
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Savannah Merks is feeling bleak


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:33 pm
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Projectyl
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I had a wild theory this morning on what to do with all these names, although it leaves the smilies, quotes, and birthdays unused:

Take "MIR" from the video, add it to the name of the first volunteer, "Amelia L. Gatwick", and anagram to get "calamari" and "gimlet" (food and drink) with "WIK" left over. Pass "WIK" on to the next name, "Annabeth C. Lyons", and anagram to get two more food/drink items with three letters left over, which then get passed on to Veronica, and so on. The types of things we pull out would change from row to row (Famous authors for the "read to seniors" row? Meteorological terms for the "weather-related emergency" row?).

This would be absolutely beautiful and brilliant... if I could get it to work past Amelia, and if it didn't leave out a bunch of information that couldn't possibly be extraneous, and if it gave us anything we could enter in that "Join the Chain" form. Still, maybe this'll inspire someone else.

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FractalP
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...well, we can pull 'Absinthe' out of Annabeth C Lyons WIK... no luck with the food though. I doubt this is a coincidence, but it seems a bit of a stretch. Note that it says:
Quote:
Take the task off the hands of the person who has it currently, and then get it into the hands of someone else who can make sure it's in good hands.

So taking it from someone and giving it to someone else? That sounds about right. Although it does seem more complex than usual.

EDIT: Have we heard from any member of the Seven this week? We're usually contacted almost immediately, this time it has taken a while...

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Projectyl
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An anagram generator also pulls out "kielbasa" and "baloney", although of course those both conflict with "absinthe".

The more I stare at it, the more inclined I am to write it off as coincidence after all. The right answer's definitely going to involve giving and taking in some form or another, but this method just seems too prone to possible alternate answers.

EDIT re the Seven: With the exception of Xander, we've always learned of the Seven members by solving puzzles. Since it looks as though we've only got the one big puzzle this time around, and we haven't made any progress on it, it probably makes sense that we haven't learned who we're meant to be helping this time.

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Projectyl
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Today's DI:

Quote:
How we roared as driven–thus
doom planned. Be still, this sin
we brand.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is a word-for-word rhyme of the last part of Genesis 26:22: "Now the LORD has given us room and we will flourish in the land." FLOURISH has been replaced with "this" instead of a rhyme, so either that's our answer, or our answer is a rhyming word to fit the Inspiration (BOORISH? NOURISH? I will stick with my seven-letter words theory until forcibly pried away, dang it. Very Happy ).


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