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Dregyn · Decorated Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 162

I doubt there of any relivance at this point.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:20 pm

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

No kidding on the PM being fast on replies...

Me: What do the doll heads have to do with anything? Neither the Beginning nor the End.

HolderOfTheEnd: Only time will reveal the truth.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:25 pm

IndieV · Boot Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 27

got a reply too

I asked 'what comes next?

He replies "You decide"

So i asked "how much time until the "truth is revealed"

waiting on a reply

EDIT: Here's the reply

Patience. Snip around for clues. Go go go. Keep dragging him. Get him in the car. Grab the camera.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:31 pm

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:36 pm

Dregyn · Decorated Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 162

I also wrote a reply that said

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:40 pm

IndieV · Boot Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 27

This post is irrelevant. Vid's removed.

Dregyn · Decorated Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 162

WARNING TO THOSE THAT WATCH IT. If it's real, someone shoots themself with a shotgun in the head. You do see this, if this is real PM, you need to disclaim people who may be light of stomach. To those who watch it it is some kind of white infrared chopper view of the chase.

UPDATE:

It's real http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2007/11/carjacking_ends_in_tragedy.html

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:56 pm

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

Also in the Beginning on the clip of the trunk of the car, it looks like something is wrapped up under a blanket.

Also at :14sec during the drive, just after the "R" there is a very small clip of a female in a mask wearing a black sweatshirt that has the 3 letters PIN. PING makes golf equipment and they sponsor a huge LPGA golf tournament in Portland every year. The font of type and it being in all capitals appears to be the same as the PING logo. The last games have been at Columbia Edgewater Country Club.

GoogleEarth time.

Edit to add: Was gonna say not sure about it being Aspen Highlands park, but I digress, it is. Get down to street level and take a look around from 22644 SE Main CT and check the trees to the left and the house with large hedgerows at the end of the street where the car comes around. Plus in one pic there is another car coming around the curve. Too much coincidence.

Dregyn · Decorated Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 162

What'd you find? Cause I'm not sure what you meant.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:25 pm

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

This is one of his subscribers http://www.youtube.com/user/AdamaTheAtheist

He joined on 30 Sept 08

Looking for more.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:45 pm

Dregyn · Decorated Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 162

I'm speaking with someone who seems to know imori. He seems to want to help, but I don't know what to make of this. I googled holderoftheend again and saw a stickam site with someone saying "Holderoftheend: Such a mysterious badass" and there was an AIM to talk to him, so I am right now. I will post when I am done.

**Posted:** Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:03 am

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

**Posted:** Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:07 am

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

New Vid

IndieV · Boot Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 27

new vid with phone number on it

it's a 503 area code. I think it's either 503 665 4427 or 503 665 4428.

I ain't trying it. No thanks lol. Good luck though.

**Posted:** Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:19 am

Keldaran · Boot Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 45

Definitely looks like 503-665-4107

Edited: 4107 is a rapid busy signal, usually meaning all circuits busy. 4207 is a d/c msg. 4187 is a Law office. Trying some others.