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[Trailhead?] Mahkra Asylum / Kana Itsume?
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 		I gave Amadeus TEMECULA, asking if I'm on the right locational trac. He was very helpful with answering "Close enough".

Also: I asked Kana how she was doing in english and then wrote a note in Japanese. Based on that, I'm scraping the whole writing Kana in Japanese route as she answered my message with the following (which tells me she doesnt have Japanese language support on her email):
Kana wrote:
I can only see a much of squares... It's fine though. I am doing a bit better here in the Asylum but I think Doctor is being a bit weird lately. He seems a bit softer but more insane every day.
Note: The Doc is apparently getting nutier by the day. I dont know what she means by that though.
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TheRealTommyG
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Llama wrote:
Ammy said the female outside his house wasn't Kana, but someone older.

I wonder who that female is?



oh god...

Is it Alice?


New dream diary entry from Kana too.

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shylilembrace
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 		had a nice conversation with the doctor tonight..

Quote:

Sareff Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:24 AM
To: angrydoctor.notmadSPLATgmail.com
Wanted to tell you that I was interested by your techniques, wanted to know more about them and why you choose this method?
Konstantin Von Heinrich Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:41 AM
To: Sareff
Well, I've always thought that current treatments are simply too "soft." No pain, no gain, I've always thought!

So, one day, as I was reading an old casebook from Rutledge Asylum, I found exactly the methods I wanted.

As of right now, I'm just getting the girl warmed up. But, I intend to try a method similar to training pets: If she shows signs of mania, I'll "punish" her with more treatment. If she shows signs of progress, I'll let her off the hook for a while.

That experiment isn't until later, though.

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Sareff Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:02 AM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
so something similar to what Skinner did with his pigeons? Sounds interesting, i've always thought that they needed more human experimentation animals can only tell us so much.
Konstantin Von Heinrich Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:30 PM
To: Sareff
Yes, exactly. Hmm, perhaps I should start throwing some patients in a missile guidence simulator, and see what happens?

No, I jest, I jest.

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Sareff Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:31 PM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
the effect of a controlled virtual reality environment on a mental patient could be interesting to determine.
Konstantin Von Heinrich Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:34 PM
To: Sareff
Ah, it would. 'Twould be even better if I had the fundings to actually do it.

I suppose I DO have some old gaming consoles lying about (A guilty pleasure of mine, I'm afraid.), but... I don't know. I'm not exactly what one would call a "computer programmer."

If anything, I could get dear Kana to do some power leveling for me in Disgaea. Haven't a clue how that'd help her, but it'd ceraintly help me.

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Sareff Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:36 PM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
*laughs* another interesting concept, but i'm sure there are more constructive game's you could set her on. American McGee's Alice perhaps. heh...the suggestion of LSD is an interesting one.
Konstantin Von Heinrich < Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:48 PM
To: Sareff
Haha, quite the taste in games, I see. That one's a personal favorite of mine.

I'm unsure, though. The goal here is to make her sane, and... Well... Perhaps Alice isn't the best call in that case. Still a rather wonderful game, but, definitely not wonderful for our dear Kana.

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Sareff Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:50 PM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
mmh..true, it is a wonderful game, i've been playing it quite alot lately, i keep forgetting to save though.
Konstantin Von Heinrich Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:56 PM
To: Sareff
Ah, that would probably be a rather advised course of action.
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Sareff Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:58 PM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
*nods* maybe you could try inducing some kind of hallucination though, it could have a negative effect as well however.
Konstantin Von Heinrich Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:59 PM
To: Sareff
I've thought of it, but... Considering the nature of her dreams...

Ah, but I'm getting soft. No pain, no gain, correct?

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Sareff Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:00 AM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
Correct. I think her dreams warrant further study as well, not sure if she's seeing these events or unconciously orchestrating them
Konstantin Von Heinrich Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:07 AM
To: Sareff
Yes, yes. I've been looking into that, but... I don't think she's orchestrating them. After all, she's safe in her cell, right? As long as I lock the doors every night, there's no way she could get out.
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Sareff Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:08 AM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
Right, but precognition leads to the possibilty of other abilites...
Konstantin Von Heinrich Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM
To: Sareff
Precognition as in clairvoyance?

It may be just me, but I'd much rather try to find a logical explanation for this before resorting to assuming magic. My current theory right now is that someone on that email address I gave her is feeding her information from the outside.

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Sareff Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:47 AM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
Maybe...she hasn't had dreams before the incidents?
Konstantin Von Heinrich Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:48 AM
To: Sareff
I wouldn't know, she only arrived shortly before all these murders, and seems to have no recollection of any time before.
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Sareff Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM
To: Konstantin Von Heinrich
I mean, the murders recently, they happen the same night she has the dreams?


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 		Well, assuming Kana looks like a Japanese person, and Ammy said that female looked like Kana, then I doubt it's Alice, unless Alice is Japanese.... Shocked

I'm on campus now, so I can't listen to the security footage again. What is he trying to get across my mentioning the dip? I wonder...

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Doc & Deus blogs updated
The DOCS BLOG and AMADEUS' BLOG have updates.

Llama wrote:
What is he trying to get across my mentioning the dip? I wonder...
I have listened to & watched that vid about 50 times this morning and I'm now losing my mind... I still hear sounds like talking when tweaking in audacity (nothing good though). I have gone through the vid portions frame by frame and think I see pixels that resemble words, but again, nothing concrete found by me Evil or Very Mad - I know I'm missing something...
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Llama wrote:
Well, assuming Kana looks like a Japanese person, and Ammy said that female looked like Kana, then I doubt it's Alice, unless Alice is Japanese.... Shocked


In his blog he only said she was cute. And you said he told you she was older than Kana but I don't see anything from him saying the girl looked like Kana. Did he tell you that?

Sorry if that seems rude, I just don't want to rule anything out without being thorough. Very Happy

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 		No problem, TommyG:
Ammy wrote:
But, no. The girl outside my house wasn't Kana. She looks a lot like her, but the girl outside my house was older.


Very Happy

Ammy's blog and the Doctor's blog/twitter have been updated.
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 		Kana Journal & Deus blog updated
also got a reply from Kana...
KANA JOURNAL & DEUS BLOG updated.
Note: Basically both blogs repeat the same story. From Kana's experience, she was not really in control of her body and did not understand what she was saying (similar to what she told me about the doctors muttering possibly?-from her reply below).

I asked Kana how the Doc was "more insane every day" and if she noticed static electricity around the doc.
Kana wrote:
To me he seems like he isn't himself like before, as if he is sort of different, aside from his weirdo feelings because he likes getting all mushy and lovey around me. I hope that won't lead to anything. Anyways...different as in I think he had lost his mind and murmuring weird things that I can't understand. Maybe it makes sense to him but not to me.
The static electricity was because I pulled that damned blue wire from the camera, shocking my thumb when I accidentally touched it. Hope that clears a few things out for you.

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 		Dr.'s Twitter updated.
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 		I'm debating telling the doc about the hole in the wall...
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 		Doctor has gone crazy... Updated blog with the following:
doc wrote:
Hoguem zk usi fpx umpjlr, oxx D hf zsymsay laou xxca rxpbs gr te mmobma xrbq xci vwra um fm ksfcze kiwuj.

Es oznfn ej ub lgynfz, I gkmio Z'k prgcrcfz... kfpb... wzesj. Ky shdlta omkggrf evz ecungy zmowwhx lb hi aq jxrmvtk lepe, igv esmpnt pi "Rlrr oei mto enhuihcvk tmmug?"

L vos'x cckndl rzim qlrgmxpgu fpile iiclkzrg. Ipnz'h lrbxxfmni? Ahvv mn sec cs xvj msfs tccjbsfd G dvdyntwpb Snfa jmxc me rum hlzwsbcer. Npvlkvvmazr... Sn hiqif desv uitkx wsic abvs ybsg o txhcsmgr pefhebqeyam gg tui sii Byai xlvsshfp mtjkyhu ebacg, kmgvbb B oes yhtpkmik kffbyum nzx kjrtie sy efe urmsj, ed mxcgsrh xj fvgao zox unff kltfmfj nmtt buk bee. (Exxsoipn os wlvx dyb... Jeg ybsm az ahybgapb lvwllj fcmbuwr?)

V'q wxeicq, Q's jhbkimvo. Q ysf'w broi eugi'w xaqgy sn. Yoag dq D xf bc? Jmzq C kaosi jbm wtxc fnww ax Olli, ygcxih varw vv yvfs iogepl xido nmtt xnjsiu iiedw?

Oj, fe trhn... Ayyh uejj C vhbf xe xmwxcte gkas?


I used the ROT-it tool here and came up with nothing...
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 		might be vigerne, but I dunno, gonna try treating it as a substitution cipher
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 		It is Vignere. Took me a while
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
cut & paste the code from docs blog. Key is this sentence from his tweet:
Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives

Solves to:
Excuse me for the cipher, but I do believe that this needs to be hidden from the eyes of my fellow peers.

As crazy as it sounds, I think I'm becoming... well... crazy. My fellow doctors are always staring at me in strange ways, and asking me "What are you muttering about?"

I don't recall ever muttering about anything. What's happening? This is one of the same symptoms I diagnosed Kana with in the beginning. Furthermore... My dream last night bore more than a striking resemblance to the one Kana recently blogged about, except I was watching through the window of the house, as opposed to being the girl talking with the man. (Speaking of that man... Was that my wretched little brother?)

I'm scared, I'm confused. I don't know what's going on. What am I to do? Will I share the same fate as Kana, locked away in some damned cell with padded walls?

Oh, ye gods... What have I done to deserve this?

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 		Sometimes I wonder how you guys know what to use... I tried Vignere but couldn't figure out what code to use. Awesome job!
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 		Posted to doctor:

Quote:
Hello.

I was considering your request for treatment suggestion. I think that it might be an idea to take Kana out for a walk, staying indoors as much as she does can't be healthy. It would also be good to let her talk to some other people.

You may also want to search medical records for similar cases.

Remember, solving her problem may help show the way to curing people with similar afflictions.


I hope he's desperate enough to resort to sanity.

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