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[IndependentPsycho]

Define Emergent

[magnet0]

I've gotta agree with you. I've come across that word too many times and just think that it's some sort of catch phrase that means 'newly formed'.

Honestly, emergent has a def and those who use it may not be using it to it's full potential. When someone refers to emergent technology, they may just be saying it because they heard it. OR, they may be refering to the new group of hypersensitive materials which may provide invisible cloaks in the near future.

[Star Spider]

Emergent

[Euchre]

Emergent usually is used to refer to things that arise, quickly, unexpectedly, and usually as a result of cumulative elements. Those elements may or may not be related, so the emergent item may be either a new development seen as an unexpected but logical evolution of it's origins or may be an apparently random result of disparate sources. It is pretty much exclusively used to new and not completely developed items. A good sort of test if something is 'emergent' is if are retroactively understanding it's origins, instead of being passively aware of them. Most emergent items also are in some fashion greater than the sum of their parts.

Most truly novel technologies arose in an emergent fashion, not as a result of design and intent.

For some other pointers and insights on the concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

[IndependentPsycho]

Nice. Use an emergent system's definition to define emergence.

So we could look at emergence as the happy accident?

This is great and all but how does one define Emergence in relation to these UnGames?

Considering that different ARGs have different degrees of user directed content, can we rate UnGames on their Emergence?

BTW the reason I use UnGame rather than ARG or ARE is because the prefix Un implies a dual state of existence. I find it more appropriate than a term that gives me the impression of some stoned friend's entertainment.

[rose]

emergence clarification

[TheIllustratedMan]

Re: emergence clarification

[IndependentPsycho]

Re: emergence clarification

[SpaceBass]

[IndependentPsycho]

Oh dear... It looks like God has decided to take an interest in my musings.

But if all you are going to do is point out that the word ungame is taken, rather provide your divine illumination , I guess I have to point out that calling this an unforum is nonsense.

Undead: not alive but not quite dead.
The word undo accepts the existence initial act and then retracts it. It happened yet at the same didn't.

Unfiction: Fictional yet reality. Similar to unreal.
So what's wrong with Unforum? It's a forum. It's nothing but a forum. You aren't denying forum-ness. So how does it utilize the prefix Un?

Ungame a non competitive game intended intended to stimulate group interaction. What a coincidence...

[Euchre]

[catherwood]

[Vecheeso]

I agree with your definition of emergent. It's pretty spot-on. Though it may be used wrongly at times, i think thats most people's definition of it.

[redct]

Actually, as I've seen it, it just sort of happened: it just fits with unfiction.

[w^nderlust]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergent_gameplay

I know, it's wikipedia, but I geek out to it.

If you are into this stuff,

http://www.salon.com/env/atoms_eden/2008/11/19/stuart_kauffman

an excerpt:

"Can you explain what emergence is?

There are things that we just can't deduce from particle physics -- life, agency, meaning, value and this thing called consciousness. The fact is that we can act on our own behalf and make choices. So agency is real. With agency comes value. Dinner is either good or bad. There's consciousness in the universe. We may not be able to explain it, but it's true. So the first new strand in the scientific worldview is emergence."