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synspark
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thebruce wrote:
It's a relative term. Kind of like grams. 1kg is an object to which others can be compared. the same 1kg object may weigh less on the moon, so 1kg on the moon would end up heavier if weighed on earth.

When talking in m.w.e., 1 meter of water is the relative measurement. Cosmic rays travel through 1m of water at a certain rate. Other materials would have different effects. So in order to have a measurement of cosmic 'permeability', as it were? water depth is used as the relation.

1000m of rocks would have an m.w.e. comparable to 2650m of water (that is, cosmic rays would stop at 1000m of rock, where the same rays would stop at 2650m of water) - basically, rock is 2.65x more difficult than water for cosmic rays to travel through.

That's how I interpreted all this definition Smile is that about right, synspark? does that help, dposse?


To the best of my understanding, you've got it. I think it's not only about rate, but also about the amount of particles that will actually make it through as well. I didn't mean to take everyone on a tangent, but explaining it helped me make sense of it. Very Happy

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thebruce wrote:
It's a relative term. Kind of like grams. 1kg is an object to which others can be compared. the same 1kg object may weigh less on the moon, so 1kg on the moon would end up heavier if weighed on earth.

When talking in m.w.e., 1 meter of water is the relative measurement. Cosmic rays travel through 1m of water at a certain rate. Other materials would have different effects. So in order to have a measurement of cosmic 'permeability', as it were? water depth is used as the relation.

1000m of rocks would have an m.w.e. comparable to 2650m of water (that is, cosmic rays would stop at 1000m of rock, where the same rays would stop at 2650m of water) - basically, rock is 2.65x more difficult than water for cosmic rays to travel through.

That's how I interpreted all this definition Smile is that about right, synspark? does that help, dposse?


Which, I guess, would have to do with the density of the material, right? For example, light travels slower in water than in air because the density of water is higher than air. And density is defined as mass/volume=density.

I have no idea if any of this is at all helpful, but I just thought I would point that out. Wink
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Jedi_Geek wrote:
thebruce wrote:
It's a relative term. Kind of like grams. 1kg is an object to which others can be compared. the same 1kg object may weigh less on the moon, so 1kg on the moon would end up heavier if weighed on earth.

When talking in m.w.e., 1 meter of water is the relative measurement. Cosmic rays travel through 1m of water at a certain rate. Other materials would have different effects. So in order to have a measurement of cosmic 'permeability', as it were? water depth is used as the relation.

1000m of rocks would have an m.w.e. comparable to 2650m of water (that is, cosmic rays would stop at 1000m of rock, where the same rays would stop at 2650m of water) - basically, rock is 2.65x more difficult than water for cosmic rays to travel through.

That's how I interpreted all this definition Smile is that about right, synspark? does that help, dposse?


Which, I guess, would have to do with the density of the material, right? For example, light travels slower in water than in air because the density of water is higher than air. And density is defined as mass/volume=density.

I have no idea if any of this is at all helpful, but I just thought I would point that out. Wink


I think that probably has something to do with it.

I also think it depends on what particles that you're talking about. Neutrino detectors, for example, are built underground to shield them from cosmic ray interactions. Neutrinos themselves, however, pass through almost all normal matter, so it wouldn't matter how deep you go.

But then, the standard of m.w.e. is the same, regardless of the type of particle you're expecting to pass into the material... so it may be all about density for that reason.
Particle physics is the weirdest thing, IMHO.

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 		Re: Don't think Dinosaurs actually lived with humans
synspark wrote:
There's no random pop culture reference I can think of for those kinds of claims.


*shrug* Flintstones?

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 		Re: Don't think Dinosaurs actually lived with humans
synspark wrote:
bjaardker wrote:
I think people may be taking things a little too literally with the dinosaurs & humans living together thing.

Clearly whatever happened scrambled everyone's memory of the past. Leaving those living in the now to believe that posters of Hillary Duff and Lucille Ball are great works of art.

I think the same thing can be said for the dinosaurs and humans. Heck at this point whatever happened to everyone could have left nothing but bones behind. The "people" of the now are finding human bones next to dinosaur bones in what used to be a museum and they assume everyone was living together.


I was thinking the same thing. But then, they quote a dinosaur. They have some record somewhere of humans stealing technology from dinosaurs also, which doesn't make much sense to me. There's no random pop culture reference I can think of for those kinds of claims.


Exactly. They even claim a quote from a Dinosaur Viceroy. That's a very specific reference for people who don't have any idea of the past. Dinosaur King, President, etc...but Viceroy?

Viceroy:
Quote:
governor of a country or province who rules as the representative of his or her king or sovereign


Also - Why (out of the 60+ pages) would they include so many about dinosaurs...and rip a large section about it out? That plus the brass references lead me to believe that there is more to it.


Edit: Also, a cross-post: Due to a discussion in the chat about following new posts, I have created a Yahoo Pipe of new This is My Milwaukee posts here in the forum just for ease of use - and to prevent battering the unfiction forum with needless F5ing. It takes all new posts to the forum and shows only TIMM-related posts.

You may find it here: http://feeds.feedburner.com/TimmUnfictionForumThreads

Currently, I am designing a pipe for the hardcore TIMMers. It will include feeds (with filters, of course) from most of the main pages so we can keep up. Cheers!

Edit: Completed it! Here is the all-sources link for "hardcore" TIMMers. http://feeds.feedburner.com/TimmSuperpipe

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gengogakusei
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 		on large anagrams
if these guys are good at making puzzles, they will have avoided giving us a large anagram... it doesn't converge properly on a single answer.

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 		TEQUILA = VE(R)MOUTH?
thebruce wrote:
hmm... I retyped all the letters the number of times for the superscript (1 or more of each) for

HWWKUULERORRRRSRRRUYYYEERREEEAFOONWMITIINNGTTOOO

and running it through the oneacross anagram generator, there was one single match with Milwaukee:

MILWAUKEE HONORER TERRITORY YOGURT REWIRE SORROW FUNNY
WHOA. That reminds me of the 1st vid's sequence:
Quote:
WORKING HAMMERS SWEATING POWER CIRCUITS REVIEW VERIFY VERIFY VERIFY BONUS? UNDER
The "?" on bonus leads me to think this could be anagrammed into a question.

Also, at some point early on, we'd figured out this possible lead:
  • 1st vid says, "Replace Tequila with Vermouth"
  • Bar's IRL name is QUARTINO
  • Bar's name in 1st vid is reduced to R NO (= NO R?)
  • Original letters QUATI are missing = letters in TEQUILA
  • Remove the R from VERMOUTH = VEMOUTH
  • Replace Tequila with Ve(r)mouth:
    T = V
    E = E
    Q = M
    U = O
    I = U
    L = T
    A = H
What happens if we replace QUATI with MOHVU? QUARTINO becomes MOHRVUNO, but that may not be relevant to the game, whereas substituting the chart letters on Pg. 26 (& 27?) seems more promising...

Re: the Doleful City and Dante's Inferno, Hell is popularly conceived as being underground, and the Doleful City chart appears to be describing radiation absorption at various depths underground (measured in equivalent meters of water).

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EnsO wrote:
ChuckDideEat:


Just got back from a stroll with some friends, saw Russo stumbling around the streets. Offered him a ham sandwich, and he started crying...?

35 minutes ago from web



That tweet made me laugh so hard last night. Firstly I love the fact that Chuck seems to carry random food everywhere he goes, and I love the image of him trying to cheer Russo up with a sandwich Laughing

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gengogakusei
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 		QUATI / RNO
yay subgothius, this is the kind of thinking we need to be doing.

I don't think, though, that they would use both QUATI and RNO.... because what are the chances that they would find a bar whose name had exactly the letters they needed? More likely that one of those is what they wanted (looks like QUATI based on its appearance on page 26) and the other is just residue.

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 		Re: QUATI / RNO
gengogakusei wrote:
yay subgothius, this is the kind of thinking we need to be doing.

I don't think, though, that they would use both QUATI and RNO.... because what are the chances that they would find a bar whose name had exactly the letters they needed? More likely that one of those is what they wanted (looks like QUATI based on its appearance on page 26) and the other is just residue.
Wish I could take credit, but was just refreshing everyone's memory of what someone else had already suggested at some point (maybe was over in the SA thread?). Wink

Agreed that MOHRVUNO seems of unlikely relevance, as it refers back to an IRL bar name, and the R NO had already provided the critical clue to leave the R out of Vermouth, allowing the substitution with Tequila, so it seems unlikely they'd recycle that clue (but just maybe the NOs in the chart could become Rs?). At any rate, now it's up to someone to run the substitution in the chart(s) and see if they can figure that out.

BTW, someone had mentioned that the number progressions may involve the previous number in the sequence, which reminds me of the Fibonacci sequence; someone else had mentioned Fibonacci numbers in association with Debussy, who was mentioned in the handbook Timeline. Each number in a Fibonacci sequence is the sum of the previous two numbers (e.g. 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,etc.), and IIRC is the closest whole-integer approximation of a Golden Mean progression. I gather this is also the algorithm that determines how many leaves a plant will have as it grows (hm, related to "nature withering around us"?).

Those two new email addys (MTC staffers?) we got, in association with the flurry of "oops" emails related to release of this handbook, are interesting:

lipps.lerouxSPLATthisismymilwaukee.com
mars.madisonSPLATthisismymilwaukee.com

Dunno what's up with mars.madison, but lipps.leroux = Red Lips or Lips the Redhead Question

One More Thing:
  • If the Blackstar Merger in DOR 4 and ACT 5 are one and the same event;
  • Then DOR 4 = ACT 5, implying an overlap or gradual transition from DORmant to ACTive, like trees starting to sprout leaves in the Spring ("YEEEAAAH!" -- that response in Vid 1 was entirely too enthusiastic to be meaningless, IMHO);
  • If DOR and ACT are both measured in years;
  • If TRO 0 occurs at the end of the DOR period;
  • Then TRO 0 = ACT 9 = The Wichita Connection;
  • Perhaps The 300 Troubles started when the Wichita Connection was established and brought an influx of Go.D.S.E.E.D. fragments with it (as suggested by the map)?

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 		Hey that's a corgi on the back cover!! Squee if you love corgis!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!



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Scott wrote:
Hey that's a corgi on the back cover!! Squee if you love corgis!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!



okayi'mdonesorryaboutthat Smile


I think it's the Cool Dog:



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 		With those pointy ears and ridiculously short legs, the little scribble picture is a textbook characterization of a corgi. White throat, and black nose standing out on a long white nose which seems to be perpetually smiling. Really it's the ears that give it away, though. Corgis have the greatest ears!

The Cool Dog could very well be part Corgi. The fFacial fFeatures -- the white stripe between the eyes and mid-forehead, white nose with darker spots, white neck -- very corgi. The ears on the Cool Dog however are the antithesis of corgi ears, which are normally giant pointy things. The cool dog is certainly a lot of corgi, but also some kind of terrier mix I think. Also, the Cool Dog is probably a puppy, maybe a year old or so, I think, given the short little snout.
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drpfenderson wrote:
Scott wrote:
Hey that's a corgi on the back cover!! Squee if you love corgis!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!



okayi'mdonesorryaboutthat Smile


I think it's the Cool Dog:



Definitely not the same dog. Same glasses, but different dog. I still swear it's Ein from Cowboy Bebop.

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FSURobbie wrote:
I still swear it's Ein from Cowboy Bebop.
Well, Ein is a corgi. So, sure. It's Ein. Or it's Queen Elizabeth's dogs. The queen has several corgis. Or ...


(here's some random corgi site, fFor your enjoyment. Nauseatingly fFroofy site, though. Ehn, google "corgi" fFor more if you're interested)

Oh, also: most commonly, corgis come in red and white. But they make em black and white, and an assortment of black white and red smooshes.

Also, the missing tail is normal. Smile
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