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[INFO] "Milwaukee: A Reasonable Haven" Informational Booklet
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horkheimer
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 		Page 27 Table
Maybe the table on page 27 isn't supposed to be decoded, but is used to decode words to numbers... matching up letters in a word or phrase to the corresponding number, with multiple instances of letters using the subscripted cells..

so milwaukee = 599660223.. not that milwaukee is supposed to be decoded... just an idea.

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Grue
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 		Guys, I figured it out! Look at the graph/map on page 0 (Active Cities).

-A Way To The Doleful City
-Simple and Direct
-A Long Walk

If we start from Wichita and do a "long walk" of the graph, the only possible final destination is Milwaukee (has odd number of connections). So Milwaukee is Doleful City (aka Hell/City of Dis)

We also have the following constraints:
-Do not come from the north gate
-Must arrive from the east

So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)

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scotty2012
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Quote:
Brass weaponry was necessary because brass is a metal that is not magnetic.


One thing that makes me think the M may not be magnetic is the M-Brass that is listed on the Important Materials page. It can't be magnetic brass (that we know of), it could be brass plated something.

Second, has any work been done with the IMPORTANT Materials?

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regentswift
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Grue wrote:
Guys, I figured it out! Look at the graph/map on page 0 (Active Cities).

-A Way To The Doleful City
-Simple and Direct
-A Long Walk

If we start from Wichita and do a "long walk" of the graph, the only possible final destination is Milwaukee (has odd number of connections). So Milwaukee is Doleful City (aka Hell/City of Dis)

We also have the following constraints:
-Do not come from the north gate
-Must arrive from the east

So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)


Interesting, but what can we do with that?

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landtuna
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regentswift wrote:
Grue wrote:
Guys, I figured it out! Look at the graph/map on page 0 (Active Cities).

-A Way To The Doleful City
-Simple and Direct
-A Long Walk

If we start from Wichita and do a "long walk" of the graph, the only possible final destination is Milwaukee (has odd number of connections). So Milwaukee is Doleful City (aka Hell/City of Dis)

We also have the following constraints:
-Do not come from the north gate
-Must arrive from the east

So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)


Interesting, but what can we do with that?


Well, here I go again trying to make phone numbers, but you can take the first letter of each and get a seven digit number: 936-3346. 936 is a valid exchange in the 414 (Milwaukee) area code...

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GalvanicSpiral
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 		I just sent an email to Lipps, asking a few Qs:

Quote:
Hello,
I am interested in moving to Milwaukee, and have a few questions for you, if you don't mind.
The first question I have is, what is the trip like getting to Milwaukee? Is the transportation nice, or is there something I should bring to make the trip more pleasant?

Should I anticipate any problems with G.o.D.S.E.E.D. fragments, or will I be relatively safe on the journey?

When I get there, what is the first thing I should do before anything else, in terms of fun; should I head down to the Canning District first, or should I go to the Jagoda Museum Center first?

Also, how well will I make friends? I am a pretty social person, so is there anyone you can introduce me to so that I can make friends quicker?

Thank you so much in advance for taking the time to answer my questions! Hope to hear from you soon!


Will post reply, if I get one. Wink
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MochaPixel
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Jedi_Geek wrote:
I just sent an email to Lipps, asking a few Qs:

...

Will post reply, if I get one. Wink


I've been in contact with Mars Madison via e-mail, she seems like quite the introvert. I'm curious to see what Lipps is like. Be sure to check out the Communication from & with Milwaukee Residents thread and post the reply you get over there. Very Happy

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Oshi
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landtuna wrote:
Well, here I go again trying to make phone numbers, but you can take the first letter of each and get a seven digit number: 936-3346. 936 is a valid exchange in the 414 (Milwaukee) area code...

I just checked out the phone number online, and it's either a cell-phone or unlisted. If it does, indeed, exist. I don't think we have enough evidence to say it's in-game, though, so I don't think anyone should call it.

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GalvanicSpiral
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MochaPixel wrote:
Jedi_Geek wrote:
I just sent an email to Lipps, asking a few Qs:

...

Will post reply, if I get one. Wink


I've been in contact with Mars Madison via e-mail, she seems like quite the introvert. I'm curious to see what Lipps is like. Be sure to check out the Communication from & with Milwaukee Residents thread and post the reply you get over there. Very Happy


Haha, I thought I was posting in that thread! Oh me. Laughing

Will do on the reply thing, definitely. Wink
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isaac newton
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Grue wrote:


So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)


does this map fit on top of either table? maybe it tells us in what order to read the cells of the table on page 27.

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Johnnyemphysema
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isaac newton wrote:
Grue wrote:


So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)


does this map fit on top of either table? maybe it tells us in what order to read the cells of the table on page 27.


I mentioned earlier that the map be be the way to decode the graphs, but I figured it didn't have feet because nobody really ran with the idea. I'm not good at decoding so I will leave it up you all.

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MrCthulhu2U
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EnsO wrote:
thebruce wrote:
I'll mention it again, re: the superscripts. Every cell is a unique letter/#, alphanumerically. Repeated letters are numbered sequentially (R, R2, R3, R4, etc), so IMO the use for the superscript numbers is known - an indication of of that letter's position in the entire sequence where that letter already exists. (ie the letter R(3) in row3col1 appears later than the R(1) in row2col2, if we're forming a long string)

sequentially (by superscript #/letter and main number):
Code:
A  6
E  2
E2 3
E3 2
F  0
G  -
H  2
I  9
I2 -
K  2
L  9
M  5
N  4
N2 -
O  1
O2 0
O3 -
R  4
R2 8
R3 5
R4 6
S  5
T  0
T2 -
U  0
U2 2
W  6
W2 0
Y  1
Y2 0


i agree with this line of reasoning to a point. this is the very same thing i have written on a scratch pad. now i'm stuck again.

it strikes one as extremely odd that the numeral 7 is completely absent in what amounts to a 30 character string of numbers, does it not? how do you explain that fact, using the letters as a guide for ordering the sequence and allowing the dashes to remain? (instead of filling in the blanks as RS and i both alluded to earlier.)


So, if we're to extract a phrase from the letters which then informs us somehow of the blank numbers we start with:

a e e e f g h i i k l m n n o r r r r s t t u u w w y y

Let's go out on a limb and assume milwaukee is part of the phrase, that leaves us with:

e f g h i n n o r r r r s t t u w y y


Throwing that into http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=efghinnorrrrsttuwyy&t=1000 gives us a sampling of what that might produce.

And then I got nothing.

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landtuna
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MrCthulhu2U wrote:

Throwing that into http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=efghinnorrrrsttuwyy&t=1000 gives us a sampling of what that might produce.

And then I got nothing.


Well, we would get nothing with that approach if the phrase is in pseudo-Chaucer speak like in Jagoda's rhyme. Maybe that's the problem.

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EnsO
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 		alright. coupla ideas i've been kicking around. i don't know why, but this feels plausible to me. let's see what you guys think.

let's look at both grids together for once instead of separately. some of us obviously feel that the bottom row on pg. 27 are blanks that should be filled in with numbers. but where to get the numbers? i've looked at this from every which way and just can't find a way to fill in those numbers. until now (and i'm still not all the way home yet.) the key here is misdirection. bear with me here.

i started looking at the grid on page 26 with skepticism a day or two ago already. that thing is only a grid to draw attention away from the information it contains in my scenario:

the X and Y axes can be eliminated because we know the grid does not contain information relating to a physics question or issue. now we are down to a 5x5 grid. the top line can be eliminated because we know this to be previous info/ numbers to travel in safely. QUATI can also be thrown out as we know they are the missing letters in the bar name (superfluous information.) the + and ! are simply space fillers in this scenario. 2010 is also just a misdirection and has been discussed previously. 124 is channel number when the video starts as i mentioned earlier. more misdirection. the M is for M-Rotor and therefore eliminated as are the obvious words NO, NO, NO, NO? and whatever that thing isD. the only problem with this theory is the single cell containing the number 84. not sure the significance of 84 but the book in the NYPL was the 1984 edition. out it goes. doesn't fit the theory. Wink

what does that leave of the grid as pertinent and new information? 5 single digit numbers. anyone know where we need 5 single digit numbers? yep, to fill in the blanks of the grid on pg. 27. and there are also the missing number 7s!

how these are ordered i don't know yet. i'm also looking at a theory that the grid on pg. 27 is comprised of a jumble of the zip codes of the five cities on our map. the way into the doleful city, simple and direct. zip codes meet that criteria fairly well. thing is there are a number of zip codes for the five cities of:

Duluth
Milwaukee
Grand Rapids
Decatur
Wichita

once the blanks are filled we can worry about how to solve.

thoughts?
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Zor
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Grue wrote:

So the path should be Wichita - Decatour - Milwaukee - Duluth - Decatour - Grand Rapids - Milwaukee (the only path that satisfies the constraints)


This is super awesome. Now I'm willing to bet that Decatur's nickname is important. Why? Otherwise there are 2 cities that start with D

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