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Brave777
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Grue wrote:
I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.


Hmm... interesting theory.
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dposse
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Grue wrote:
I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.


or it could be that there was an apocalypse and those that survived didn't know the past, which is why their history is messed up. Another possibility is that BlackStar is a Big Brother type entity that forced its bizzare will on the population.

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aldys
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 		I think that maybe they consider it 'theatre' because of the same reason they think it's pronounced hamBURger or laz-ag-ni-a..

Maybe TV commercials are the only examples of 'acting' that they've seen?

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dczyz
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Grue wrote:
I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.


something like this?

I think that might explain why TRO 0 is in bold, even though there's nothing listed as to what happened that day/year.
And why there are two blackstar mergers listed... they happened at different times in the different time lines

Just a thought.

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kyuurijanaidesu
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 		Re: Robot or Hazardous Waste Suit
SLUSHO_ZOOM! wrote:
Milk wrote:
Legendary Sword?



it's clearly a doll... it appears in other parts of the video too


This is waaaayyy back from like...pg 38 I know, but I'm trying to go through the whole of our ~80 pages now and have only got this far yet... So if this has already been addressed, sorry, but I thought it seemed important.

No - but now that you mention something other than the sword, it actually looks like that ROBOT from the - I think synydyne commercial someone referenced earlier? Which connects the two and lends credence to the synydyne work NOT being OOG.

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mrbass
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 		Re: Robot or Hazardous Waste Suit
kyuurijanaidesu wrote:
SLUSHO_ZOOM! wrote:
Milk wrote:
Legendary Sword?



it's clearly a doll... it appears in other parts of the video too


This is waaaayyy back from like...pg 38 I know, but I'm trying to go through the whole of our ~80 pages now and have only got this far yet... So if this has already been addressed, sorry, but I thought it seemed important.

No - but now that you mention something other than the sword, it actually looks like that ROBOT from the - I think synydyne commercial someone referenced earlier? Which connects the two and lends credence to the synydyne work NOT being OOG.


this looks like an intel pentium II doll. i found a couple of them in my basement when i moved intoo my current house...heres a picture for reference http://senorenrique.blogspot.com/2007/06/intel-doll.html they come in different colors

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kyuurijanaidesu
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 		Re: Robot or Hazardous Waste Suit
mrbass wrote:
kyuurijanaidesu wrote:
This is waaaayyy back from like...pg 38 I know, but I'm trying to go through the whole of our ~80 pages now and have only got this far yet... So if this has already been addressed, sorry, but I thought it seemed important.

No - but now that you mention something other than the sword, it actually looks like that ROBOT from the - I think synydyne commercial someone referenced earlier? Which connects the two and lends credence to the synydyne work NOT being OOG.


this looks like an intel pentium II doll. i found a couple of them in my basement when i moved intoo my current house...heres a picture for reference http://senorenrique.blogspot.com/2007/06/intel-doll.html they come in different colors


Kind of creepy they were left in your house XD But I was thinking more along the lines of the "spoiler" from this:

drpfenderson wrote:
mr.judkins wrote:
FlamingSheep wrote:
A little off topic, but I just found this video, also by Syndyne. It's pretty funny.

http://www.awfulcommercials.com/coffee.php


That's actually an interesting connection between the two groups other than Black Star who are credited on the TIMM website - Howcast has been created by Nim Projects and Syndyne director Thomas Bender has uploaded 27 how-to videos on it. All the ones I've watched are really funny, and Seena Jon (the Cello Player and Basketball Player) appears in a number of them...

Whoah! This is totally OOG, but I just found the robot man in one of the how-to videos.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Compare http://i36.tinypic.com/kcjc3p.jpg with the TIMM screencap.


I'm not sure that's OOG. Seems a little specific - especially when coupled with the poster for Hoopestown - mentioning being in space.



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Klink
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 		Hi, first time poster, first arg, etc. etc.
I was in the city today and saw this sticker on 2 different trains on the F line. Think it's in-game?
Edit: By city I mean NYC, not Milwaukee.
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 Description   In-game? I don't know. I saw two- one was on the F line, next to a "3" sign on the door. The other, I don't remember, but it was also on the F line.
It was always on the forward-most left side door of the car.
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kyuurijanaidesu
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Klink wrote:
Hi, first time poster, first arg, etc. etc.
I was in the city today and saw this sticker on 2 different trains on the F line. Think it's in-game?
Edit: By city I mean NYC, not Milwaukee.


possible, but have any references been made to the train system? don't know why they would leave clues without also leaving a trail to find them, seems kind of fishy.

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atomicthumbs
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kyuurijanaidesu wrote:
Klink wrote:
Hi, first time poster, first arg, etc. etc.
I was in the city today and saw this sticker on 2 different trains on the F line. Think it's in-game?
Edit: By city I mean NYC, not Milwaukee.


possible, but have any references been made to the train system? don't know why they would leave clues without also leaving a trail to find them, seems kind of fishy.


Perhaps it is a clue, but we haven't found the trail yet Confused

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kyuurijanaidesu
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thebruce wrote:
I'd still like to know who this guy is, or why the artist starts to draw an eye right there...


Might just be a random clip of someone drawing a portrait in NYC - like the chessplayers, possibly unimportant. That I've seen from my trips, a lot of people doing this charcoal drawings start with the eyes as a basis for the rest of the portrait, so not really a lead.

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chrismenning
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 		No.
DOR dates are Dormant Era. The Dormant Era is all time leading up to a period of 300 days known as "The three Hundred Troubles."
These three hundred days are marked as TRO days.
After encasing the Go.D.S.E.E.D. in it's tomb, the ACT years began.
This is when the people of Milwuakee began to rebuild. Most everyone forgot their past, and also decided that they should forget about the past, bury their family trees, and just focus on rebuilding.

The events from the DOR period align with real dates.
To catch up on some of what has already been figured out, please read the comments on the actual Flickr page here http://www.flickr.com/photos/32903188@N05/3077994614/in/set-72157610578386669/
And read the log of the phone conversations here http://mymilwaukee.wikibruce.com/414-688-8914
and here http://mymilwaukee.wikibruce.com/414-688-7035



dczyz wrote:
Grue wrote:
I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.


something like this?

I think that might explain why TRO 0 is in bold, even though there's nothing listed as to what happened that day/year.
And why there are two blackstar mergers listed... they happened at different times in the different time lines

Just a thought.


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Wulf74
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 		I had a random thought today - and maybe someone else has already mentioned it, but maybe Mars is so anxious to make friends because she's being pressured to do so. She's already mentioned she's an introvert. Just a thought.

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Oshi
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 		Someone brought up how Funnel Bulbs and the Family Tree might be two different things, and the argument against that was Mike saying "that's not a fennel, that's the family tree".

Well, I don't think that proves they're the same thing, honestly. I think that perhaps the Family Tree is something else entirely, that maybe looks similar to a Fennel Bulb? From the sounds of it, though it's never been directly mentioned, you would think the Family Tree would be large. The way Mike talks about it, as though it's something that can't be missed, is what's making me think that.

Perhaps Fennel Bulbs, the thing that 'goes in the ground' and presumably protects everyone from Go.D.S.E.E.D fragments [where was that from?], are what the Family Tree was originally. Or, even, take the word "Family Tree". It almost makes me think that the Family Tree is the originator of Fennel Bulbs or, even, Go.D.S.E.E.D fragments. From the sounds of it, the way Mike didn't want him to dig it up, it might be what's keeping Go.D.S.E.E.D underground (or keeps a lot of fragments underground, at least).

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SubGothius
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chrismenning wrote:
No.
DOR dates are Dormant Era. The Dormant Era is all time leading up to a period of 300 days known as "The three Hundred Troubles."
These three hundred days are marked as TRO days.
After encasing the Go.D.S.E.E.D. in it's tomb, the ACT years began.
This is when the people of Milwuakee began to rebuild. Most everyone forgot their past, and also decided that they should forget about the past, bury their family trees, and just focus on rebuilding.

The events from the DOR period align with real dates.
To catch up on some of what has already been figured out, please read the comments on the actual Flickr page here http://www.flickr.com/photos/32903188@N05/3077994614/in/set-72157610578386669/
And read the log of the phone conversations here http://mymilwaukee.wikibruce.com/414-688-8914
and here http://mymilwaukee.wikibruce.com/414-688-7035
dczyz wrote:
Grue wrote:
I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.


something like this?

I think that might explain why TRO 0 is in bold, even though there's nothing listed as to what happened that day/year.
And why there are two blackstar mergers listed... they happened at different times in the different time lines

Just a thought.

I'm still inclined to think that the Blackstar Merger is one and the same event, just noted on different year-date scales that overlap:
Code:
DOR 9876543210
ACT 0123456789

The interesting thing I just realized about this: it neatly transposes the digit range 0-9 against itself in reverse order 9-0. Useful, perhaps?

As for TRO, that seems to measure days of The 300 Troubles, but it's unclear if there were exactly 300 Troubles or 300 days of Trouble, or if "The 300 Troubles" refers to a roughly year-long period of near-daily Trouble. IMHO, TRO 0 is the first day it became suddenly, dramatically obvious and undeniable that there was, indeed, Trouble; perhaps this led to the realization that Trouble had actually been brewing for quite some time leading up to that fateful day, thus the retroactive dating of ACT 0 = DOR 9 and DOR 0 = ACT 9.

BTW, this discussion of dates listed in the booklet really fits better over in the Milwaukee: A Reasonable Haven thread. Wink

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