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[SEKRIT] Secret correspondence with Dr. Riley
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[SEKRIT] Secret correspondence with Dr. Riley
No posting this on the Outpost!

So, as many of you know, I've been corresponding with Dr. Elizabeth Riley. Recently, one of her podcasts featured a link to an interview with a distraught mother. Dr. Riley contacted me:
Dr. Riley wrote:
Dear <Map>,

You have been very forthcoming with me. I thank you for your
honesty. You seem to me like a man who can be trusted. I need
you to keep this correspondence between you and me, <Map>. Do
not make it a public notice. Please do not betray me.

Have you had a moment to watch Lillian's interview with Mrs.
Compton? I want you to know that Lillian cut out part of Mrs.
Compton's story. You will see Mrs. Compton explain George's
mumblings. Although heartbreaking and very interesting, I felt
the information did nothing to put the Comptons in any danger.
I had Lillian cut out the many references Mrs. Compton made to
George's drawings. I fear for George and feel a great need to
protect this innocent boy and his dear mother. But I do feel
you and your associates should have these drawings. They may
mean something to you. It is my hope that you can use these
drawings to keep others from harm. That is all I can say, <Map>.
I hope you understand.

Please send to me your address and the address of one other very
trusted associate as soon as possible.

I responded with both my and sapagoo's address. Due to a bungle on my part, I fear sap's letter was lost in the mail. Mine arrived, however. And it's kind of weird.

Note: Please do not share this with anyone in-game. I do not want to lose Dr. Riley's trust.

Here is the envelope it came in. I've decorated it with Christmas cheer:


Here is the content of the envelope. I put the coins there to weigh it down.


A close-up of the cat...


...which lifts up to reveal a worm?


The rocks and the cat


Corner detail


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That's awesome. A pity the second one got lost in the mail, though - with two we might have done a comparative study. With only one, we're kind of stuck as to identifying cogent meanings of any recurring themes.

The whole thing (the bits around the edges in particular) looks almost like petroglyphs or cave art. Not sure what the red around the edges means, but I'm almost sure it wasn't done without purpose, especially since all those little boxes-with-dots are each at the tip of one wave - thus, closer to the cat. Hard to say what that means though.

All things considered, I think we can pretty confidently say the cat is representative of either BA or Sploit. I'll guess Sploit, since he's the only one we can impact right now, anyway. Maybe we should urge Sploit to keep an eye out for snakes in the Dreamscape woods, and stay away from any suspicious rock formations? We stilll don't know what happens if you die in the Dreamscape.

EDIT: Yeah, I just checked Sploit's map. The stone slabs on the drawing, while crude, seem to correspond to the slabs Sploit mentions on his blog that he uses when he has to hide. Could be that the little box-thingies are the "weird beasts" he also mentions, and he gets snakebitten while hiding from them.

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Maybe symbolically the snake under the cat means that something that looks harmless on the surface is really dangerous?

I like the idea that the cat is sploit.

The snake looks like some kind of petroglyph as well.

just fyi: here is the quote from sploit's blog about the troughs

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The last one, I'm calling a campground. I have no idea what it was. It's just a big open area and it looks like there were a couple of water troughs of some sort. It's too woody to be some sort of stable area, so I don't think it was that. I dunno. But there's one that's almost upside down that makes a hell of a hiding spot. Ain't nothing getting you if you can squeeze under the side.

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Very cool. It's more than just a drawing though. Some creativity went into it what with the cut-outs and all.
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Ah yeah. I assumed that drawing had a forked tounge so it was a snake. But I see mapmaker called it a worm and someone else mentioned caterpillar.
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This morning when I signed into my email, I had a message from Dr. Riley waiting for me. It included a link to another George drawing she wanted to share with our sekrit group. I've attached a copy of the drawing, as well shared the email below.

Quote:
Dear Roxanne,

I was just searching my email files and stumbled upon your email
once again. I hate to impose on you, but your research and
theories
about the bridge collapse and possible connections to low
frequency sound
impressed me. As a teacher, I have, over the years, become very
good at
spotting above average minds. There is something I would like
for you to
see and study, if you wish.

I believe you are a part of a particular circle of friends who
are following my research at the Points. There is something I
need for you to very discreetly share with your circle of
friends. Please do not place the address of this drawing in a
public place, Roxanne. This drawing belongs to a 15 year old
boy named George who will not speak. Something happened to
George and his friends at the "R" Point. This drawing may tell
us what George cannot. This is a very private matter. I do not
want something as personal as George's drawing to be out there
for just anyone to view. I would like to protect George, Mrs.
Compton and you and your circle of friends from anyone who might
be interested in the drawing for the wrong reasons. Mr. Eddie
Pope would be one of those people. He would certainly use the
drawing for his own selfish gain. It is my hope that you and
your circle of friends might be better able to understand this
drawing than me or Lillian. I would appreciate it if you would
share any theories or conclusions you might arrive at due to
studying this drawing with me.

Thank you, Roxanne. The drawing will only remain posted at this
address for the next few hours.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drlizriley/3097169697/


Please remember to listen to "Signals" tomorrow evening.


Yours faithfully,

Dr. Elizabeth Riley

"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
C.S.

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Just posting the obvious: Its a map of the dreamscape

But what is the "something suspicious"?

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Just some quickie observations about this 'map':

There are some correspondences with Sploit's dreamscape. For instance, two buildings each with a water tower on top.

There is a shield made from the 8 dots in the middle. These dots have "I DREAM" around them.

There is the Drummer (dun dun dun).

Three graves marked "G" "J" and "R", surrounded by cats: I am assuming that "G" = George. We see sleeping figures marked "J" and "R," plus text that reads 'JOE TOOK IT". From Mrs. Compton, we know that Joe and some name that starts with R ('Rance'??) were the friends with George in the woods.

Also, according to Mrs. Compton, George screams "Run to the gate! Run away from the growls!" --- well, we see the gate and growls on the map too.


Mysteries remaining:

Who are the Whistlers? There are 8 of them.

There is a snakey thing coming out of the center dot that reads LOST LOST LOST LOCK LOCK LOCK. Why?

Why six houses? And six factories, maybe?

What are these 20 doorway things encircling the edge?

What is the thing that looks like a salt shaker next to the "JOE TOOK IT" text?


EDIT: image is also available here now: http://www.flickr.com/photos/21825549@N00/3097703415/

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I too got this email. It was a reply to my email regarding sending Transtar to work with Lilliana (which of course went unanswered Razz )

Quote:
Dear Dav,

I know you are a part of a particular circle of friends who are
following my research at the Points. There is something I need
for you to very discreetly share with your circle of friends.
Please to not place the address of this drawing in a public
place, Dav. I do not want something as personal as George's
drawing to be out there for just anyone to view. I would like
to protect George, Mrs. Compton and you and your circle of
friends from anyone who might be interested in the drawing for
the wrong reasons. Mr. Eddie Pope would be one of those people.
He would certainly use the drawing for his own selfish gain.
It is my hope that you and your circle of friends might be
better able to understand this drawing than me or Lillian. I
would appreciate it if you would share any theories or
conclusions you might arrive at due to studying this drawing
with me. Thank you, Dav. The drawing will only remain posted
at this address for the next few hours.

Please remember to listen to "Signals" tomorrow evening.

Yours faithfully,

Dr. Elizabeth Riley


And my reply:
Quote:
Dear Dr. Riley
I am honored by your trust. After seeing the drawing you sent to <Map> (Mapmaker), and now this one, It seems that George Compton is particularly important in some way—it's actually somewhat creepy, as I recognize his drawings from something formerly unrelated.

First I suppose I should briefly explain that there is a… place, which we call the Dreamscape, which exists outside of the time and space we know. We call it the Dreamscape because it is a place visited by a select set of people in their dreams. The drawing you sent to <Map> looked like it might have come out of this Dreamscape, but this new one is definitely a drawing from this place. Here are my initial findings—I'll send you an email with my group's findings once we've studied it more.

There are people ringing part of the drawing, labeled "whistler" but I have no idea what that means.
There appear to be holes labeled "I Dream," but the pattern is identical to the pattern of dots that George holds above his head at night, so it might be some kind of pattern for protection drawn onto the sketch.
The dot near the center, which the Lock-Lost Road leads to, appears uncannily to be an eye. It is ringed by a black circle… it almost looks like a portal or temple of some kind.
At the bottom of the drawing appears to be the edge of a forest—which fits the Dreamscape, for there is a forest at the edge of a road. Another point that fits the Dreamscape that we know is that beside the road and at the edge of the forest is an old mansion (with a fence) that seems to house a dog that barks at passerby. Note the mansion near the edge of the forest with the words "GROWL GROWL GROWL" written there.
There are a few people lying around, apparently sleeping, which reinforces my belief that this is a drawing of the Dreamscape.
The Dreamers who enter this Dreamscape usually manifest as cats (for some unknown reason). Why the cats in this drawing are gathered in only one place on the drawing is unclear, but that may be a particular group of stones that the Dreamers have found which seems to offer protection.
The line of houses on the right agrees with a map of the Dreamscape that we have, where there is a line of houses along the road.
I'm not certain, but the brick building near the top of the drawing might be an old tower that has been seen in the Dreamscape. The building below the "eye" might be a university building but I can't quite tell.
And finally, the snakes all over the place are certainly the product of… whatever it was that George saw in the mound when he and his friends visited point "H". Whether or not they symbolize anything in the Dreamscape is unknown.

What intrigues me is that George is somehow tapping into the Dreamscape. I wish I knew whether or not he had vivid dreams before his journey to the mound, and I wish that he could answer certain straightforward questions. But while we may not be able to get those answers, the drawings are useful (if enigmatic.)

In the meantime, I will get to work sharing notes with my friends and colleagues. Good luck on your research today and tomorrow, and I look forward to hearing your results tomorrow night.

With Optimism,
Dav Flamerock


If you read my reply, it has my notes in it.

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danteIL wrote:
What are these 20 doorway things encircling the edge?


Those might just be for show. There's only nineteen in the picture we now know to be of Sploit. Either they're simply sequential, or the number of them isn't important.


As for the "LOST/LOCK" ...is that what BA has the "key" to from http://www.bseeingu.com/letmein.mp3? If so, the eye at the center may represent the temple she's looking for now.

I've got nothing new to add about the new picture otherwise, though.

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I sent an email to Lizzy suggesting there might be a correlation between the number of door/gate looking symbols and the signal points she is studying.

enaxor wrote:
Dear Dr. Riley,

We've only spent a short time studying the George drawing you provided, but I do have a quick question for you. Around the edge of the drawing there appears to be what looks like doors or gateways. If you count those symbols around the edge they total twenty, if you add the one at the end of the path which leads to the center, you have twenty-one. I know you've only talked about seven points that you've been monitoring for signals, including the source point, but I'm wondering if you actually are monitoring other points as well? I'm guessing you may be, by the way you're noting your point locations; A, B, ., D, ., ., ., H, I, ., ., ., ., ., ., ., ., R,. If those symbols do represent doors or gateways and the numbers match up to your signal listening posts, that would suggest a strong relationship between what happened to George and the signal itself. The ritual Lillian witnessed, maybe just the beginning of more to come. If those are gateways, what do they lead to, or what do they lead to us?

Sorry for the rambling, I'm just trying to put some thoughts to paper and figured I might as well share with you.

Sincerely Yours,

Roxanne


And her reply...

Dr. Riley wrote:
Dear Roxanne,


Thank you for writing to me so quickly with your thoughts about the drawing. There are exactly twenty Points included in my study, Roxanne. I have not yet tapped into all of the Points but I hope
to one day. It is fascinating to think that George's mind would include this detail in his drawing. An associate recently told me about a couple "Points" that are not as well known as those in
my study. Perhaps George knows more about what is to come than I do.


Please feel free to share more of your thoughts. This helps me a great deal as I try to put the pieces together for myself.




Yours faithfully




Dr. Elizabeth Riley

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And here's the followup I promised for Dr. Riley.

Quote:
Here is some more interesting points, one of which you pointed out to Roxanne.

* As you and Roxanne discovered, the doors on the drawing likely correspond with the Signal Points that you are tapping into. This *is* related to the Dreamscape in an odd way:
* Every year there is a sound event called the Scream that occurs in the real world and in the Dreamscape. It seems to originate from the West Virginia mountains. I seem to recall discussion about the possibility that the Scream location was the same as your source point, but I do not recall if we settled the matter one way or another. As you can see, the sound events you are examining may have something to do with the Dreamscape, though the only known example is this Scream. (It occurs annually on Halloween)
* I forgot to mention the presence of the Drummer, who is obvious in the center of the drawing. He is a pivotal figure of the Dreamscape, but his identity, motives, and importance are still a mystery. I'm just pointing out another aspect of the Dreamscape illustrated here.
* The three objects I had previously unidentified that are surrounded by cats are probably graves, as they are labeled "G", "J", and "R". G must be George, and Mrs. Compton said there was a boy named Joe, and the R is the third boy whose name we didn't quite get. Anyway, the meaning of the cats guarding their graves is unknown. And the two sleeping figures are labeled "J" and "R" and have a field of dots beside them. Someone mentioned that it might be blood, which would make sense except that they're obviously sleeping, not dead.
* As for the two buildings, we've come to the conclusion that those are two specific buildings with water towers on top of them that we have heard about from the Dreamscape.
* Now that we recognize Joe and "R", we realize why George wrote "Joe took it." Perhaps Joe took something from the source point? ¯\(o_o)/¯

Anyway I hope this helps you so that you can help us help you. Smile

--Dav


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Betty's reply to me:
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Dear Dav,

Your note is filled with so many wonderful details. I thank you for writing so soon. Allow me to answer and confirm some of your questions and assumptions.

The Source Point is in the West Virginia mountains. The boys names are George, Joe and Rance. I see the little z symbols George has drawn. Well, George would not be the first to use "sleep" as a metaphor for "death". Of course, the reverse is also used as a metaphor. I do not know. And now I do see the "Joe took it". This is fascinating. I do wonder what Joe may have taken? If Joe and Rance are dead or somehow unable to return, as George did, do you suppose it could have something to do with whatever Joe took? And are we assuming that George visits this place? I'm afraid I'm only adding to the list of questions, Dav.

I must go and think about all this fantastic information while I work on my script for tomorrow night's Podcast Show. I hope you will be listening.

Yours faithfully,

Dr. Elizabeth Riley

And my corresponding answer:
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Ah, yes I believe my associate heard "Rance" but he wasn't quite sure.

As for the sleep/death... their current status, I'm sure, is unknown. I hope we learn more soon.

"I'm afraid I'm only adding to the list of questions, Dav."
--Ah, but I love questions! Often I find a good question is better than a good answer.

I'll be sure to listen in tomorrow night!
Dav


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Wonder why the whistlers only ring half the sketch?
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Don't know for sure, but at a guess, it's because they're beyond everything else (in the dream world), which makes sense concerning recent events. I think the wavy things are supposed to be the sea? Or possibly the countryside. Either way, they're positioned as far as possible beyond it, which I guess can be stretched to mean that they are/were very far away.

Anyways, I think that maybe we can post this in Sentry Outpost now. On a meta level, it seems like these were meant to be shared, not kept secret over the last couple of days.

And what, you guys don't think that your fellow Sentries are your very close friends? Razz

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