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BlessedBlogger
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FYI, my little color coded poem to Chuck Jagoda got a response. You can read about it in his thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=585806#585806

I'd appreciate help formulating a reply.

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Also, new Twitter from Chuck:
Celebrated the opening this afternoon with Mayor Vincenta Cruz, members of the Decatur Tourism Squadron, and Big Brass Industries.
2 minutes ago

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Aces and Eights
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Hey folks,
at 2:16 in the initial video we have this image.



As far as I'm aware the dating of this image as from 2006 does not fit into the dating scheme (DORman/ACTive). Anyone seen any other instances of standard years?

Edit: The second video has a sign for LEO'S HAIR 2010.

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How many of us have read WHY I LOVE BEES yet? Good article. I'm struck Re: TIMM by the power of meaningful ambiguity:

...Their efforts to work together to explore this ambiguity marked the second phase of CI gameplay. I call it the cooperation stage. In this stage, players individually formulated hypotheses, presented them to the group, and then solicited help in collaboratively testing and refining them.

...I would argue that the primary puzzle of I Love Bees embodied a meaningful ambiguity. That is, the data set lacked the clarity of formal interactive instructions, yet maintained a distinctively sensical nature...its arrangement was structured and seemingly intentional enough that it promised to mean something, if only approached in the right way.

...How important was ambiguity to the formation of a collective intelligence? It was absolutely crucial for two reasons. First, ambiguity creates a critical and constructive relationship with digital media and systems. It serves a psychological function, to draw players into the collective.

...Computer-human interface researchers William W. Gaver, Jacob Beaver, and Steve Benford argue in their scientific article "Ambiguity as a resource for design" that "ambiguity… is a resource for design that can be used to encourage close personal engagement with systems." They write: "Ambiguity can be frustrating, sure. But I can also be intriguing, mysterious, and delightful. By impelling people to interpret situations for themselves, it encourages them to start grappling conceptually with systems and their contexts, and thus to establish deeper and more
personal relations with the meanings offered by those systems...By thwarting easy interpretation, ambiguous situations require people to participate in meaning making"

Now THATS meta, beeyatch.

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Questions

I'm bored and things seemed to have slowed while we try to figure out the fax puzzle so I'm going to pose a few questions:

1. Have we firmly established we're in DOR 10? The handbook is supposed to be recent and unfinished and according to book it was published in DOR 10, copyright DOR 7 to DOR 10. I'm pretty confused about the timeline and I'm trying to catch up but there is so much info to process my brain is gonna splode.

2. The poem about Chuck Jagoda is titled The Workers take and continually refers to the chef as 'the worker' which is what they call the weird guy who works for Blackstar and with the MTC who may or may not be human according to Russo. Is these two workers one and the same?

3. Has anyone asked Russo about Cool Dog or religion in generally? Maybe drop the line 'Cool Dog watch over you' or whatever? Cool Dog is also an anagram for Loco (crazy) God. Has anyone asked Mike about what comes in the 'Welcome back Pard'ner' gift basket, or what a hyperboard, Blackstar Sword of Slaying, Febrizzio's Sword Of Slaying or Big Key is? What about the FeBrizzio's Airship Lifetime Pass? Has anyone asked to see the new residents culture and customs slideshow or asked what the Blackstar Book is? Has anyone asked what 'rolling the bones' is? It's an ancient form of divination (like tarot or runes) but it's also slang for gambling. Has anyone asked what happens in an M-Collapse or what we should do should one occur?

4. I was thinking about the whole dinosaur thing and how they seem to have cobbled together their history/culture from 80's pop culture and pop fiction. I'm guessing the dino history is based on James Gurney's series Dinotopia which he started publishing in the mid 80's. I'm also guessing the Ultimate Warrior they're talking about is Brian James Hellwig, the pro wrestler 'Ultimate Warrior' who retired in 1999.

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?

Just some thoughts.

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Re: Questions

BlessedBlogger wrote:


1. Have we firmly established we're in DOR 10? The handbook is supposed to be recent and unfinished and according to book it was published in DOR 10, copyright DOR 7 to DOR 10. I'm pretty confused about the timeline and I'm trying to catch up but there is so much info to process my brain is gonna splode.



You mean ACT 7 and 10, those are the copyrights. And by what time "we're in", I think you mean in-game. We still don't know (100%) if in-game is shifted ahead any or not. It doesn't have to be... DOR dates seem to end in 2007, and fitting all the TROs and ACT 1-10 between 2007 and now would be tough. But they don't have to fit in between, taking the overlap theory 2003=DOR4=ACT5. So, +5 and we have 2008=DOR-1=ACT10.

Caring about any such shift or lack of one got sidelined, I think, when we were told something like 'it is this year' and 'it doesn't matter what year it is' by Mike iirc.

edit: Here is a ref to Joey saying something similar. http://mymilwaukee.wikibruce.com/414-688-7035#chrismennings_call_with_Joey

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Just got an email from the MTC with Blackstar job listings!

edit: Whoops, there's already a thread...

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Re: Questions

BlessedBlogger wrote:

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?


"Throw him to the Go.D.S.E.E.D fragments!"

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Re: Questions

BlessedBlogger wrote:

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?


Hahahahaha. You know what that is? It's an Oregon Trail reference. Old-school.

Remember that one tombstone that read "here lies andy, peperony and chease"? Add that to the "unable to ford the rivers" thing... yeah. Old-school as HELL, doggs. I can't stop laughing about this.

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Re: Questions

BlessedBlogger wrote:

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?


We should ask Mike Lewis, as he's the one with the red pen.

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Re: Questions

modernsaints wrote:
BlessedBlogger wrote:

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?


Hahahahaha. You know what that is? It's an Oregon Trail reference. Old-school.

Remember that one tombstone that read "here lies andy, peperony and chease"? Add that to the "unable to ford the rivers" thing... yeah. Old-school as HELL, doggs. I can't stop laughing about this.


lol Wow, I haven't played that since.... gosh, fourth grade! I guess it makes sense since it was a popular game in the 80's and they are basing their history/culture off of popular culture/popular fiction of the 80's.

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Re: Questions

BlessedBlogger wrote:
modernsaints wrote:
BlessedBlogger wrote:

5. On page 62 of the handbook, the section about leaving Milwaukee, they mention 'Andy'. Has anyone asked what happened to him/her?


Hahahahaha. You know what that is? It's an Oregon Trail reference. Old-school.

Remember that one tombstone that read "here lies andy, peperony and chease"? Add that to the "unable to ford the rivers" thing... yeah. Old-school as HELL, doggs. I can't stop laughing about this.


lol Wow, I haven't played that since.... gosh, fourth grade! I guess it makes sense since it was a popular game in the 80's and they are basing their history/culture off of popular culture/popular fiction of the 80's.


WOW. I recognised the 'unable to ford the rivers' bit, but not Andy. Maaan. Takes me back.

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I noticed that everyone overlooked the clear hint in the promo video. It says "Next week on Blackstar no Blackstar...". Well, what happened next week after the video was released? There was this secret second video, I think. Which involves the basketball kid with Family Tree. So basically what happened is, basketball kid raises family tree, it releases lots of energy, which causes Worker's glasses to shatter. Worker gets angry at him, and in the promo video we see the conclusion: Terry Nanny saves him, hence "thanks Terry, I thought I was toast".

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Grue wrote:
I noticed that everyone overlooked the clear hint in the promo video. It says "Next week on Blackstar no Blackstar...". Well, what happened next week after the video was released? There was this secret second video, I think. Which involves the basketball kid with Family Tree. So basically what happened is, basketball kid raises family tree, it releases lots of energy, which causes Worker's glasses to shatter. Worker gets angry at him, and in the promo video we see the conclusion: Terry Nanny saves him, hence "thanks Terry, I thought I was toast".
that's a clear hint, eh. To what, do you suggest?
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Scott wrote:
Grue wrote:
I noticed that everyone overlooked the clear hint in the promo video. It says "Next week on Blackstar no Blackstar...". Well, what happened next week after the video was released? There was this secret second video, I think. Which involves the basketball kid with Family Tree. So basically what happened is, basketball kid raises family tree, it releases lots of energy, which causes Worker's glasses to shatter. Worker gets angry at him, and in the promo video we see the conclusion: Terry Nanny saves him, hence "thanks Terry, I thought I was toast".
that's a clear hint, eh. To what, do you suggest?


More food. I suggest we consult Chuck.

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