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[39C] The 39 Clues

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aliceinwunderland
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katsmom wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

Of course, that is based upon my understanding of what you were suggesting that we do.

I wasn't suggesting we make a database. I was trying to work out the cards used to see what might show up in book 3. It was because of that kid writing that book 4 would be in Australia.

I guess I am confused about what you mean by "the cards used". I thought you were just trying to document all the connections, which is incredibly complex.

katsmom wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

folks started using it for seances and it was labeled as devil music.

I wonder if they used it to contact Houdini? Laughing

"believe Roselline"

I think that might be in the right time frame... I'll bet they did!

katsmom wrote:

you should see my books, they are very colorful! Take a look at the back endpage of OFN. "Wildcat" and "Don't let Klose see this jump out at me". This one is from Area 7. Where have we seen that before? Wink

Ugh! I am seriously regretting giving away my book to a co-worker for his daughter to read. (runs to go get copy of OFN) I see the note on Klose and Grace's codename. Have we seen these terms before? What does it mean?!?!?

katsmom wrote:

I have a feeling we are going to get tiny snippets of clues until the very end. Like you, I'm enjoying piecing them together and gaining more 'useless knowledge'

I am enjoying this aspect as well. I can't help myself. Part of me thinks since it is a kids book it won't be terribly complex. I keep telling myself to step away from the computer...

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:17 pm

aliceinwunderland
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katsmom wrote:

Making guesses is great, making assumptions is fine. Just try to look at what has been guessed at before (there is a search button at the top of every page). All of this about the video and Amy being a Ekat and Dan a Tomas has been discussed a while back. It doesn't mean reading the entire forum. Yes, I do realize that 96 pages is a lot. It simply means searching by entering a phrase or two to find out if it has been said before.

I have to say that I agree. Rather than making wild guesses or posting the same things that have already been discussed, take the time to think things through. First step is to check with the search to see what has been discussed. If you have something new to add, or you would like to re-visit a discussion, put some thought behind it. Give references and back-up what you are saying with "facts" (I know alot is fiction, but they are facts in the 39 Clues world). If you don't have time to properly explain your theory, I don't have time to read and comment on it.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:24 pm

Maggie
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Connections

aliceinwunderland wrote:

Well, if you know how to create a spreadsheet in Excel, that is like 2 dimensional, right? A relational database is sort of like creating an excel sheet for each card and linking them all together, so that it is multi-dimensional. And the best part is that you can filter, sort, query, generate reports, etc. My point was that the complexity of the information we are attempting to get our arms around exceeds a word document and is really more than Excel was designed to handle. The problem is that relational databases take a great deal of experience to properly set up.
Of course, that is based upon my understanding of what you were suggesting that we do. All day long, I kept hoping that we were going down the right track and that you wouldn't log in ask what the heck is going on here??! That's not what I was talking about. Laughing

Yes, I understand what you are talking about, unfortunately, I don't have the program on my computer to create one.

This is what I have so far on Excel. I am doing it in batches as the list is long.

Cards from book 1:

#1 Secret: Surveillance Card - Ekatrina
Who:

Maze of Bones, page 134 wrote:

Who: "It's him." Dan showed Amy the photo � an older man with gray hair and a black suit, crossing the street. The photo was fuzzy, but it must've been taken in Paris. Dan could tell from the yellow stone buildings and the French signs. "The man in black is here."

There is no hat mentioned and the photo is in black and white, but the first picture could be the same one as Dan saw in the Lucian headquarters.

What: Mozart's graveyard has been mentioned (I haven't read One False Note)

Where: London, England hasn't been mentioned as yet.

The bug was set on Saladin at the end of Maze of Bones and was put on an Ekatrina (Alistair Oh) in One False Note.

#2: Dan Cahill - Cahill
Other than Beacon Hill, Maze of Bones.

#3: Catacombs - Lucian
Maze of Bones

#4: The Titanic - Lucian (see #5)
Nella Chain = Anne Cahill = Ekatrina
Mission #1

#5 George McClain - Tomas
Experiment, Georgia � surveillance of Nella Chain (see Card #4)
Mission #1

#6 Thomas Jefferson - Janus
Lost Franklin in Paris � probably see mention of Jefferson again because of his house, Monticello, in Virginia, as no tourist allowed visit skydome.

P.S. Anyone interested in working on the map, be my guest, as I will have no internet service over the Christmas holidays. My computer is being reprogrammed.

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:47 pm

aliceinwunderland
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39 Clues Google Map Link

Maggie wrote:

P.S. Anyone interested in working on the map, be my guest, as I will have no internet service over the Christmas holidays. My computer is being reprogrammed.

The link in your sig does not work. I had saved the MOB map and the 39 Clues Summary map to "My Maps". Only the summary is there now. What used to be a link to the MOB map now says "Unable to load". The link to the summary is: 39 Clues Summary

Edit to shorten url - sapagoo

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:00 pm

sapagoo
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Re: Connections

Maggie wrote:

Cards from book 1:
#1 Secret: Surveillance Card - Ekatrina
Who:

Maze of Bones, page 134 wrote:

The "Where" in the 3rd picture is the Torre del Mangia in Siena, Italy.

Maggie wrote:

P.S. Anyone interested in working on the map, be my guest, as I will have no internet service over the Christmas holidays. My computer is being reprogrammed.

I hate the way google labels the "my maps." I prefer going to Maggie's maps page http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=105917711380856707884
It is much shorter than the link to the actual map.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:19 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: Connections

sapagoo wrote:

I hate the way google labels the "my maps." I prefer going to Maggie's maps page http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=105917711380856707884
It is much shorter than the link to the actual map.

Wow! I like that much better!

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:21 pm

sapagoo
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Re: Connections

aliceinwunderland wrote:

sapagoo wrote:

I hate the way google labels the "my maps." I prefer going to Maggie's maps page http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=105917711380856707884
It is much shorter than the link to the actual map.

Wow! How did you do that?!?!?! I like that much better!

What you already know:
When you go to someone's map, you can click "Save to My Maps", which is helpful to find maps that you like, but not helpful if you want to pass the map on to other people, or if the owner of the map deletes the map or makes a new map.
What you may not know:
But if you look at the link of the owner, "By jeanb" and click on the owner, it will take you to all the owner's maps. Maggie has 3 active maps right now, plus a blank one for book 3. In addition, google doesn't really need the "&hl=en&gl=us" part of the url since google doesn't really need to know that I prefer to read in English and live in the US in order to get me to Maggie's maps page. Therefore I usually strip it off when passing the url along. Then I usually test the link, to make sure I got the uid correct.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:30 pm

Knerdherd
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some apoligys
sort of

katsmom wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:

I'd tend to agree with you ekatprof. this doesn't mean that they aren't cahill branch, but it is very interesting.

page 29 MOB:"You know that the Cahill family is very large...very old. It has many branches. Page 40 MOB: "Maybe you weren't listening! There are four branches. "Which are we?" Dan Asked. "I don't know." Amy looked at MR. McIntyre for help. "She just mentioned hte names. She wouldn't tell me what we are."
If that isn't enough, page 112 OFN "four branches of the family" and finally page 168 OFN "And closer to understanding who we are!"

Did you read the books and understand them. Cahill is not a branch it is the familyname.

Making guesses is great, making assumptions is fine. Just try to look at what has been guessed at before (there is a search button at the top of every page). All of this about the video and Amy being a Ekat and Dan a Tomas has been discussed a while back. It doesn't mean reading the entire forum. Yes, I do realize that 96 pages is a lot. It simply means searching by entering a phrase or two to find out if it has been said before.

Sorry for being so Unclear, but when i was refering to the Cahill Branch i was talking aboutTHE CARDS!.
And before i joined this forum, i watched it for a relativly long time( i was watching since page 36 of this forum).
I remember the posts made on this topic.

Whatever. Neutral

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:05 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: some apoligys
sort of

Knerdherd wrote:

Sorry for being so Unclear, but when i was referring to the Cahill Branch i was talking aboutTHE CARDS!.
And before i joined this forum, i watched it for a relatively long time( i was watching since page 36 of this forum).
I remember the posts made on this topic.

Whatever. Neutral

OK, so we know that that Amy and Dan are under the Cahill branch in the cards. What was your point? Because we obviously missed it. It may make sense in your head, but unless you connect the thoughts in your post, it just sounds like the same thing that has been hashed out here already.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:12 pm

Knerdherd
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I was simply supporting a point made on another page about sibblings other than the original four being of different branches. That was It!! But then kats mom and ekatprof started talking about it and, ARG

That is why i wrote that trout

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:18 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Kids Branches and trouting

Knerdherd wrote:

That is why i wrote that trout

Don't take it so hard. katsmom and I were just trying to get people to look at the history of a topic prior to posting. If you have a new theory, I want to hear it. On the other hand... if it is something that we have heard before and dismissed as being unsubstantiated -- such as the video might appear that it is indicating branches that Amy and Dan belong to -- it is a waste of time. It may very well be that Amy is ekat and Dan is tomas. Just "prove" it with new "facts" not the same thing that has been discussed before.

BTW, I am not sure that you started the trout, but you do have the ability to stop a trout. Smile

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:32 pm

Wind Lane
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katsmom wrote:

tyty2001 wrote:

do these points from the games affect us in any way later in the game like the points keep adding up from every tournamant thingy like this

Scholastic has said "Every child can be a winner" IF they roll over the points, that wouldn't be the case. But The best answer is we don't know! My own opinion is that it wouldn't be fair. If they are giving out the first prize on 31 Dec, then roll over the points, the next time around the previous winner has a higher chance of winning again. Confused

To back that up, since the current points are sorted under "Episode 1" on the leader board it only makes sense that later episodes will be tracked separately as well.

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:30 pm

katsmom
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Grace's necklace

I've been thinking about this since I read it, and because we are now on our way to Tokyo I'll post my thoughts. MOB page 50 there is a description of Grace's necklace. "12 intricately carved squares of jade with a green dragon medallion in the center."

Dragons are prevelant in Asian Mythology. They were the "animals" of emperors. So much so that the masses would be killed for simply owning a depiction of a dragon. Jade is ment to bring good luck, fortune, prosparity, health. It is given to babies when they are born, and to people when they go in to hospital. There are 12 carvings of jade. 12 can be divided into 1 and 2 (Don't ask) so these roughly translate to unity and pairs--so a unity of a pair. (Dan and Amy?)
They haven't sold it for money yet and McIntyre offersto arrange to sell it on page 215 MOB.
I have a feeling that someone in Japan (Asia) will see the necklace and help/try to kill them. Or that the necklace itself is a clue. Afterall, we should remember that dragons sleep on a bed of gold and jewels. They also eat limestone to be able to breath fire. Now there is a search for someone. What is the key ingredient in limestone? Is it on the periodic table?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:29 pm

Hunter6
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Re: Grace's necklace

katsmom wrote:

I've been thinking about this since I read it, and because we are now on our way to Tokyo I'll post my thoughts. MOB page 50 there is a description of Grace's necklace. "12 intricately carved squares of jade with a green dragon medallion in the center."

Dragons are prevalent in Asian Mythology. They were the "animals" of emperors. So much so that the masses would be killed for simply owning a depiction of a dragon. Jade is meant to bring good luck, fortune, prosperity, health. It is given to babies when they are born, and to people when they go in to hospital. There are 12 carvings of jade. 12 can be divided into 1 and 2 (Don't ask) so these roughly translate to unity and pairs--so a unity of a pair. (Dan and Amy?)
They haven't sold it for money yet and McIntyre offers to arrange to sell it on page 215 MOB.
I have a feeling that someone in Japan (Asia) will see the necklace and help/try to kill them. Or that the necklace itself is a clue. After all, we should remember that dragons sleep on a bed of gold and jewels. They also eat limestone to be able to breath fire. Now there is a search for someone. What is the key ingredient in limestone? Is it on the periodic table?

There is a Dresden green diamond on page 9 of the clue finder guide. It says it on the back of the cover.

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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:39 pm

katsmom
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Re: Grace's necklace

Hunter6 wrote:

There is a Dresden green diamond on page 9 of the clue finder guide. It says it on the back of the cover.

I'm not sure what that has to do with my post about a dragon made of jade? But good catch. Although, my CFG is different from yours. At least I think it is from the posts here) I don't have that on page 9. It is listed on hte credits of the cover as being on page 9 and on card #73.

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:47 pm

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