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[39C] Discrepancies/Mistakes
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katsmom
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Alice, can I now name you the "semantics/grammar" policewoman? I love it! To vs. And. big difference.

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katsmom wrote:
Alice, can I now name you the "semantics/grammar" policewoman? I love it! To vs. And. big difference.
I suppose.. if you must. I can't help it. Those things jump out at me. It drives ppl around me nuts.

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It's funny, they register in the recesses of my grey matter, but if you asked me to tell someone I couldn't. I knew what I meant when I replied, too bad Ekatproof couldn't get into my head. Or maybe that's a good thing for him. I'd hate to think about what scary things I have rolling around in there.

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Re: MoB Mistake???

aliceinwunderland wrote:
Ekatprof wrote:
I was on pages 112 and 113 of MoB when i saw this paragraph.

Quote:
"Surely you dont want another war between our branches," Alistair said, trying to sound diplomatic. "One phone call and I can mobilize help from TOKYO to RIO DE JANEIRO".
As far as I know, Alistair is an Ekat, not a Tomas so why did he say he can get help from Tokyo. Isn't Tokyo a Tomas stronghold and it is unlikely to have that many Ekats if any there? On top of that, why does he want help in Rio De Janeiro? Is Rio De Janeiro a Lucian stronghold? Lastly, if Alistair is having trouble in Paris, why does he want help in Rio De Janeiro in the first place?
Notice that the quote says that help can be mobilized from TOKYO to RIO DE JANEIRO -- not TOKYO and RIO DE JANEIRO.


I rechecked the book and it does say from Tokyo to Rio De Janeiro. But the question is, why does Alistair want help in Rio if he is mugged by the Kabras in Paris?

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I don't think he's asking for help. I think he's trying to state how powerful he can be if he wants to. He can get help anywhere.

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katsmom wrote:
I don't think he's asking for help. I think he's trying to state how powerful he can be if he wants to. He can get help anywhere.
I agree. Is this another ESL issue? THis is how I read it: Alistair is so powerful and can draw upon members of his branch that are located just about all over the world. Thus he can bring them in such far reaching locations as Tokyo and Rio de Janeiro, and everywhere in between.

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Re: MoB Mistake???

[/quote]I rechecked the book and it does say from Tokyo to Rio De Janeiro. But the question is, why does Alistair want help in Rio if he is mugged by the Kabras in Paris?[/quote]
When you say Rio De Janeiro is De in the right case? Because De is in lowercase in the book. Maybe this will help: http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/22-Rocketboard it says it on the bottom of the document.

Alistair is very desperate. That's why.
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This is minor and probably won't affect gameplay, but for the link for card 22, The "stolen archive file" shown is number 21 not 22. Here's the link: http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/22-Rocketboard

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Geography

In One False Note, the first sentence (from memory as my book isn't on me):

"The hunger strike started two hours east of Paris."

The Holts are at a railroad station two hours east of Dijon.

In order to get to Dijon, you need to head south. If the Holts are at a train station east of Dijon, they are going nowhere as a lot of railroads come to a dead end.

Therefore both sentences should read south not east.
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Sherlock_39 wrote:
This is minor and probably won't affect gameplay, but for the link for card 22, The "stolen archive file" shown is number 21 not 22. Here's the link: http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/22-Rocketboard

But the link says article 22, though.
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Hunter6 wrote:
Sherlock_39 wrote:
This is minor and probably won't affect gameplay, but for the link for card 22, The "stolen archive file" shown is number 21 not 22. Here's the link: http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/22-Rocketboard

But the link says article 22, though.


I know. but at the top of the page, it says stolen archive file 21: E-mail to Alistair Oh, even though it should be stolen archive file 22.

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I've been working on the timeline on the wiki:

http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Timeline

I think I've found another discrepancy, regarding the dates that people arrived in Paris. On [http://codebreakers.the39clues.com/minigame/jwizard/ Jonah's Will reading report], we hear that he's heading to Paris "tomorrow", which would be August 23rd (based on the timestamp of August 22nd on the report itself). But, in Maze of Bones, he seems to arrive in Paris on the 21nd, along with Dan and Amy.

I'm getting Dan and Amy's date thusly:

2008-08-19: Grace's funeral.
2008-08-20: D+A arrive in Philadelphia (page 83, "they'd booked the train tickets and the rental car online last night").
2008-08-21: D+A arrive in Paris (page 110, after the meeting at 8PM with McIntye, "she ran to the car, already taking her passport out of her back pocket", then page 116 "she'd endured eight hours on the plane"). Jonah Wizard shows up on page 118.

Now, supposedly, Jonah reported on the funeral on the 22nd, which would be after he already arrived in Paris (according to the above). I'm more inclined to treat the CahillWeb document as wrong, but are there some days I've missed in the book itself? EDIT: Though, you know, Jonah's letter does say "at the funeral yesterday", which would push the funeral to the 21st, which would fix everything. So I've gotta figure out where I got the 19th reference from. EDIT 2: So, it looks like I got the 19th from "The last two days, since they got the news about Grace's death" (being the 17th). I guess I'll just have to presume that they got the news 2 days after she died, not THE day she died. That'd push my dates above up 2 days, which I think will solve everything.
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morbus wrote:
I've been working on the timeline on the wiki:

http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Timeline

I think I've found another discrepancy, regarding the dates that people arrived in Paris. On [http://codebreakers.the39clues.com/minigame/jwizard/ Jonah's Will reading report], we hear that he's heading to Paris "tomorrow", which would be August 23rd (based on the timestamp of August 22nd on the report itself). But, in Maze of Bones, he seems to arrive in Paris on the 21nd, along with Dan and Amy.

I'm getting Dan and Amy's date thusly:

2008-08-19: Grace's funeral.
2008-08-20: D+A arrive in Philadelphia (page 83, "they'd booked the train tickets and the rental car online last night").
2008-08-21: D+A arrive in Paris (page 110, after the meeting at 8PM with McIntye, "she ran to the car, already taking her passport out of her back pocket", then page 116 "she'd endured eight hours on the plane"). Jonah Wizard shows up on page 118.

Now, supposedly, Jonah reported on the funeral on the 22nd, which would be after he already arrived in Paris (according to the above). I'm more inclined to treat the CahillWeb document as wrong, but are there some days I've missed in the book itself? EDIT: Though, you know, Jonah's letter does say "at the funeral yesterday", which would push the funeral to the 21st, which would fix everything. So I've gotta figure out where I got the 19th reference from. EDIT 2: So, it looks like I got the 19th from "The last two days, since they got the news about Grace's death" (being the 17th). I guess I'll just have to presume that they got the news 2 days after she died, not THE day she died. That'd push my dates above up 2 days, which I think will solve everything.


Time stamps are used by the receiving party, therefore Jonah could have sent those reports several days before.
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Wind Lane wrote:
morbus wrote:
I've been working on the timeline on the wiki:

http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Timeline

I think I've found another discrepancy, regarding the dates that people arrived in Paris. On [http://codebreakers.the39clues.com/minigame/jwizard/ Jonah's Will reading report], we hear that he's heading to Paris "tomorrow", which would be August 23rd (based on the timestamp of August 22nd on the report itself). But, in Maze of Bones, he seems to arrive in Paris on the 21nd, along with Dan and Amy.

I'm getting Dan and Amy's date thusly:

2008-08-19: Grace's funeral.
2008-08-20: D+A arrive in Philadelphia (page 83, "they'd booked the train tickets and the rental car online last night").
2008-08-21: D+A arrive in Paris (page 110, after the meeting at 8PM with McIntye, "she ran to the car, already taking her passport out of her back pocket", then page 116 "she'd endured eight hours on the plane"). Jonah Wizard shows up on page 118.

Now, supposedly, Jonah reported on the funeral on the 22nd, which would be after he already arrived in Paris (according to the above). I'm more inclined to treat the CahillWeb document as wrong, but are there some days I've missed in the book itself? EDIT: Though, you know, Jonah's letter does say "at the funeral yesterday", which would push the funeral to the 21st, which would fix everything. So I've gotta figure out where I got the 19th reference from. EDIT 2: So, it looks like I got the 19th from "The last two days, since they got the news about Grace's death" (being the 17th). I guess I'll just have to presume that they got the news 2 days after she died, not THE day she died. That'd push my dates above up 2 days, which I think will solve everything.


Time stamps are used by the receiving party, therefore Jonah could have sent those reports several days before.

Good Idea! Flaming Nutter
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Hunter6 wrote:
Wind Lane wrote:
Time stamps are used by the receiving party, therefore Jonah could have sent those reports several days before.

Good Idea! Flaming Nutter


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