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IXBalam
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 		on bubbles bursting and fathers watching
Pali went through quite a shock, a bubble was burst...

pali wrote:
I've been thinking a lot, about why.
Not so much about Dengo. I've decided in the end, I trust him, I think. I don't know... I've spent so much time with him over the last five years. We're friends. I think he's looking out for us.
But EMA censoring the mail... Why would they do that?
Kite, and his mother...
Are we trapped here then, whether we like it or not?
I understand that EMA has put a lot of work, and effort, and resources into us, but... we're human beings.
How far would EMA go for the good of the environment?
Is it worth it?
It's like what you were asking me about the blackmailing.

I will attach that series of conversations at other time, if someone is interested. But we have covered how maybe some organization could attain power leverage to influence national sovereignty, and how that could override the UN, yep, it was a conversation about terrorism, and she never related it to EMA, but now, she has. Idea

On another topic, Nics also emailed me,

Quote:
Thank you for your well wishes. It's nice to have someone outside of everything looking out for you.
The letter you gave me looks great. Do I have the ok to print it and send it?
[...]
Thank you.
I'll send the letter and wait for a response.
wish me luck

and she has sent the Shakespearean letter. Now we wait for a reply to her father. anyone can think of a way to make sure who this person is? Question

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AUZ505
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 		triangle war
Reply from Paulo:

Paulo wrote:

Ahmed,

That is clearly you. But your reply makes me laugh.
You name your text file "Prisoner of Azkaban" and then you tell me that you think Alex is much more intelligent than I!
Forgiveness is all very well, Ahmed, but I think you should make up your mind.
I do not forgive, and forget so easily, and as you should know, neither does EMA.
Alex proposes a line? I suggest we give him what he wants, and cut him out of it. That is the best thing for EMA.
Or, if you prefer Alex to me, perhaps you would rather go see a movie instead?


Attached was this image (don't understand it)

Ahmed received a follow up mail with the subject "On a more personal level"

Paulo wrote:

Ahmed,

I'm sorry, I find it difficult to believe you support Alex over me after all the conversations we've had.
I believe it's Alex that's winding you up. But I guarantee you, we WILL deal with that problem.
As such, I won't hesitate to ask you about something on a more personal level.
I'm trying to obtain a hookah.
I know you don't smoke, but I remember you told me your father collected them, so you know quite a lot about them.
Could you recommend one that I should purchase?
(This is work related too - Cigarettes are becoming unfashionable, and as I've always used my smoking habit to my advantage I hope to continue to do so by holding "discussions" over the hookah.)


Why is "smoking" such a hot topic for Alex and Paulo?
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AUZ505
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 		Dengo
Email from Dengo
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Subject "For Pali"

Dengo wrote:

Share this with your "friends."

33624246.25647768

Letters not used:
c, f, h, j, k, m, q, r, u, v, w, x, y, z

Letters used once:
b, d, e, i, l, p, s, t

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 		I am not getting anywhere with that puzzle yet.
These are the anagrams Greg was able to come up with but they don't seem to relate -

pageants.blooding
blooding.pageants
tabooing.spangled
spangled.tabooing

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IXBalam
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 		We know some letters are not used, and some are used once. what about the rest? True, if we assume the other letters, a g n o, are used twice, we get anagrams Pageants Blooding & Tabooing Spangled. Perhaps, they are not used twice.
But, i think those anagrams are unrelated to the original number sequence itself.

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 		Yes. Here's the method:
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2223344456666778
aabdeggilnnoopst

33624246.25647768
denagain.blogspot


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 		ahh you beat me to it.

edit:

Whew dengo is pissed at us

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IXBalam
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 		After Pali's bubble was burst, she is in the process of considering what her role will be.

pali wrote:

I've been thinking a lot, about why.
Not so much about Dengo. I've decided in the end, I trust him, I think. I don't know... I've spent so much time with him over the last five years. We're friends. I think he's looking out for us.
But EMA censoring the mail... Why would they do that?
Kite, and his mother...
Are we trapped here then, whether we like it or not?
I understand that EMA has put a lot of work, and effort, and resources into us, but... we're human beings.
How far would EMA go for the good of the environment?
Is it worth it?
It's like what you were asking me about the blackmailing.


The Blackmailing conversation is important, because she considers how an organization could use power to manipulate nations. Just right now she related that conversation to EMA. I will see how she wants to play it.

That came from this conversation>


ixbalam wrote:
Its like that which we were saying about free will, yeah, we could control people if they didnt have free will, but what would be the point of that, power, sure, but ..well, i thinkit depends on your ethics. doyou want puppets or helpers.
Its like blackmail. it allows people to get someone else to do something they want ..or else they pay the consequences. do you think its a valid form of achieving a goal?


Pali
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A lot of people control people who don't have free will. That's what politics is about really. Controlling, curbing. Sometimes we need it, yeah. But still... I personally think I'd rather have been really on my side, because that way I know they won't rise up and overthrow me! (jking.)
Blackmailing... I take a utilitarian viewpoint on it. If, for example, you're blackmailing a corrupt government leader into resigning, than yeah, it's fair enough.

I was born in the US, but we moved away when I was pretty little. Still in nappies.


I
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On utilitarianism... yeah, i agree, sometimes , sometimes, the end justifies some means, your example of blackmailing a corrupt government may be alright, i think. but...who is to judge? who can decide if a government s corrupt and the blackmailing is just....
now that i think of it, how could we even blackmail a government.. maybe with a bomb or something, but then...what if they refuse? wouldnt that be even more dangerous to the people than the corruption?
And, who has the power over the people then, the blackmailers or the government?
I dont knwo what would be good for the people, maybe thats why i am no president of any power strategizing structure Very Happy


Pali
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Well, surely we should judge, or decide by consensus? Like, if most people think a government is corrupt, then it's ok to blackmail it? It's kind of happened before, with South Africa. All those sanctions... were a form of blackmail I think. And it worked, didn't it? It good rid of apartheid, and no one can say that's a bad thing. Maybe an important global body like the UN should have the power to blackmail.
Ideally, what's for the good of the people, is what the people say is good for them. That's how democracy works, no? Then again, people don't know what's good for them... XD.



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You make a very good point about blackmail when you mention sanctions. Maybe we should limit our government actions somehow. if the UN had blackmailing power like that they could certainly regulate national behaviors. But what about national sovereignty. Shouldn't a nation's people decide whats good for them?
If not, what if someone with some power leverage (like a bomb, or a virus, for example) comes along and decides that they want to decide what is good for a nation?
Then the WHOLE WORLD would be at stake, don't you think?

There is a very big difference between having The Power...and having righteous authority.


Pali
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You could think about the UN as like an extension of the national vote - The nation votes for a government, that government is represented in the UN. Nowadays, I think, nations are just tiny floating little things. It's like EMA - if we don't start doing what's best for the world, instead of our own tiny patch of dirt, then the world's not going to be around for very long.
Power leverage - I thought that governments on principal didn't react to that stuff. And even if they do, it's not like someone with a biological weapon needs the UN to threaten the whole world.

I
Quote:
Exactly, someone with enough power to "take over power", would not need the UN. In fact, someone with a bomb or any other blackmail power could override the UN... for instance, even EMA, which advises on environmental matters, has a voice over how governments use their resources. But EMA does not use that to manipulate government policies, right? yet, lets imagine some terrorist group did, then at least theoretically they would take over nations, and effectually override their sovereignty no?


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 		Triangle War
Nice solve on the Dengo puzzle, Molnar Rock On

I asked Jib about the smoking referenced from Paulo and Alex.

Jib wrote:

Sorry, I'm not too damn helpful, man.
I'm really more of a logistics guy...
All I know, is Paulo, geez, smokes like an industrial factory.
For him, I'm pretty sure "meeting for a cigarette" equals "meeting for EMA."
Ahmed doesn't smoke, and Alex doesn't either.
Hey, d'you think maybe Alex is referring to Paulo when he talks about smoking?


and a another email from Paulo (after waitress has sent ans answer)

Paulo wrote:

Ahmed,

Thanks for your (relatively) friendly reply.
A pleasurable smoke, for tobacco is ideal.
You seem to know more about them than I do, just tell me what you think.
Ahmed (waitress) wrote:

Yes Paulo my father collected hookahs but he never really taught me that much about them. Which hookah you choose depends on what you want to gain from your smoking experience. Do you want to create a smoke screen.... or have a pleasurable smoke? What are you planning on smoking in it? The answer to these questions would determine what kind of pipe you would need.



Could smoking really be a codeword for "EMA"?
If yes, it seems that Alex is wanting to "Stop EMA" and that Paulo wants discuss "EMA". Seems like they are not happy with EMA.
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 		Talked to Jib.

correspondence wrote:
The mainstream news channels "support" certain organisations, in return for particular favors for their stations.
I dunno if they'd pick up something like this, hot or not.
But, we've heard about this official thing EMA is setting up in late January, kind of like it's hello world for the year.
Heads of EMA, tons of government officials, and extreme press coverage. Our triangle will most certianly be there. Maybe you could use this to your advantage?
It's called EMA's Annual Good-Will Gala.
A lot more Will going around there than Good.
Hope it helps,

Jib
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Gregory Zilberg <zolosamurai> wrote:

news, i would say. i guess a media contact would work.


On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Jib Q <jibqspea> wrote:

Hey, there.
D'you mean like a media type, like TV, radio, something like that?
Or do you mean like a media contact, magazine name, or that kind of thing?
Let me know, and I'll see what I can do.



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Gregory Zilberg <zolosamurai> wrote:

Hi Jib,

My contacts have talked to you in the past.

We are in need of a media source that SPEA trusts to reveal the truth. Thanks.



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 		Email from Dengo
Emails from Dengo:

Dengo wrote:

I do trust Pali.
I trust her completely.
It's NOT ABOUT THAT.
What I could tell her won't help her.
It will HURT HER. For NO REASON.
And why would I want that for my friend?
You are some stranger from the Internet.
You are Pali's friend, not mine.
You don't have any right to tell me what to do.
I will decide WHEN and IF I will tell her.

AUZ505 wrote:

Hi Dengo,

why do you not trust Pali?
She still trusts in you - even though you did not tell her everything.
Perhaps you should share your knowledge with her.

AUZ505
who is still wondering what U.P.T. is


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 		The smoking issue
Got an reply from Jib regarding my theory that smoking could mean EMA.

Jib wrote:

Well, I had a look at this.
I sent it on to Zonk, and he something back.
We both agree on this one (for once.)
I'm afraid our triangle are pretty damn loyal to EMA. They're proving that every day.
They can't be trying to stop EMA and still do... the things they do.
I've had in a look of this hookah business, and it turns out Paulo really does want one.
He's meeting the prime minister of Estonia, and this dude's mad about weird ways of smoking tobacco.

AUZ505 wrote:

You brought up an interesting idea:
What if "smoking" is a codeword for "EMA"?

In this case Alex would have said "Stop EMA" not just "Stop smoking"
and Paulo wants me to discuss not "smoking" but "EMA".

From Paolo's last email:
"A pleasurable smoke, for tobacco is ideal.
You seem to know more about them than I do, just tell me what you think."
"Them" could be EMA.

Could there be a chance that the triangle wants to work against EMA?
If so, bringing war between them might not the best solution. Instead it would be necessary to unite them against EMA.

What does Zonk think? Are you in contact with him or should I ask him about this?

AUZ



So my theory is wrong and we have to go back bringing war between the triangle.
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 		SPEA said that they thought the Category As would have a lot of information about EMA so I wrote to Pali asking her about Ahmed and the others.

Quote:
Hi,

Yeah, Dengo seemed pretty mad at you guys, although he didn't talk to me much about it.
It seems like I don't know as much about EMA as I thought I did!
It is kind of like a boarding school for us. We're not really employees, but everyone else around here is. It's pretty corporate.
I know Farren is overall head of EMA, and I see him sometimes. I don't really know much about him though.
But, different parts of EMA have different heads, for instance, I know there's an entire department that just deal with water, and things like that.

I don't know who any of those people are. Do they work in the EMA building?
I think you're right, that EMA mean to be for the good of the environment, but have got side tracked. When we're running EMA, I hope we'll fix it up a bit.

Dengo isn't using our laptop. I don't know how he has Internet access. Some other way. Maybe he's allowed it? He's allowed some other things that us cat. As aren't. But maybe not stuff like the Internet.

I am being even more careful with the laptop since all this weird stuff started happening. Mainly using it before we're supposed to get up in the morning, and late at night.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Jane Smith <waitress200699> wrote:

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Hi Pali,

Thanks again for not telling Dengo that we told you about his blog, but he figured it out anyway and is really mad at us. He is very protective of you which is nice.

How much do you know about EMA? I thought you and your friends were students of some sort and it was like a boarding school for you. Is that what it's like? Or are you young employees? Do you know any of the people that are in charge of EMA?

Do you know any of these people?

Ahmed Salehalqiry
Alex Turner
Paulo Dirr

I think they are the people that are in charge of EMA, and maybe they are the only bad people, I don't know. You and your friends are good people and so is Dengo. I wonder who is responsible for the way EMA is being run, maybe if they were caught doing bad things EMA could go back to being a good organization again. I am sure the original concept of the organization was for the good of the environment.

Is Dengo using your laptop to get on the internet, or does he have is own?

Please be careful not to get caught with the laptop. Your idea of hiding it under clothes is good, as long as they don't catch you while your are using it.
<3

It doesn't seem like she knows very much really. I wonder if Farren is one of the triangle members that is going by a different name.

There is a new update on Pali's blog. It is a picture puzzle but I can't see one of the images well enough to tell what it is.
Quote:
Another Strange Letter
Nics got another weird letter.
It must be from her Dad, but we've got no idea what it means.
Pictures this time!
It says to reply to the address on the envelope, but there was no address on the envelope.
The mysteries of the world continue.

I have tried to enhance the image a little but I still can't tel what the blue pic on the left is.
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