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[39C] Clue Founders/Finders
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aliceinwunderland
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 		[39C] Clue Founders/Finders
who has hidden clues, plus rumors, myths, and legends about clue locations
Now that my secret need to control everything has been revealed Twisted Evil , I decided to create the new thread for the topic that snuibi and sapagoo started in the main thread.
sapagoo wrote:
snuibi wrote:
in mission 0's ''find the secret code" parts, some things about clues are mentioned:
    * "Find the Secret Code — Lucian Conspiracy theory" says: "in 2007, Grace took 12 trips to Madagascar. the lucians suspect clue activity."
    * "Find the Secret Code — Jonah Wizard Agent Report" says: "Jonah will find one lucian clue in Paris, but will he find the other?"

I am working on some notes to consolidate the Founders/Finders, plus those that have Hid clues, and any rumors, myths, and legends about the clue locations.
Look for a new thread soon. (don't let it stop anyone from creating a new thread first - I'll just add to it if there is one)

I only slightly re-formatted snuibi's comments (I hope you don't mind!).

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 		Founders/Finders:

Harry Houdini Implies that he was looking for Russian treasure, and may have found something in the Australian outback.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/I-Like-Useless-Facts-Harry-Houdini
Gervais Raoul Lufbery - Archive implies he took an unauthorized flight from Luxeuil on Sept 20, 1916, returning with a package.
"In addition to shooting down countless German planes, you've tracked down an Ekaterina Clue!"
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/10-gervais-raoul-lufbery
http://sapagoo.unfiction.com/cahillweb/article/janus-archives-letter-to-gervais-raoul-lufbery.htm
John Flamsteed
Marie Curie Mission 0 - says Marie discovered a clue.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/secret-document-four

Sidney George Reilly - Secret Archive mentions "I think the excitement of finding another Clue overpowered every sense of danger."
http://sapagoo.unfiction.com/cahillweb/article/Lucian-Archives-Death-of-Sidney-George-Reilly-TOP-SECRET
Ching Shih
Gertrude Ederle - swam from France to London, possibly with a Clue.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/I-Like-Useless-FactsGertrude-Ederle
Annie Oakley
Young Grace - was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/59-grace-cahill



Hiders:
Marie Curie Mission 0 - implies Clue taken from Europe to Caribbean
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/secret-document-four
Anne Cahill - clue at bottom of Loch Ness
Grace Cahill - clue at bottom of Loch Ness
mission 1 http://www.the39clues.com/game
Benjamin Franklin - hid clue in Paris
Fidelio Racco hid clue in house in Venice
Ustad Ahmad Lahauri - hid clue in the Red Fort of Delhi
mission 2
Hope Cahill - hid clue in chip in her hand.


Rumors, Myths, and Legends:
Napoleon searching Egypt for clue buried by Katherine Cahill
http://sapagoo.unfiction.com/cahillweb/article/lucian-archives-napoleon-report
Did the Tomas really hide a Clue on the moon?
Card 71
"Jonah will find one Lucian clue in Paris.But will he find the other?" mission 0
"in 2007,Grace took 12 trips to Madagascar.the Lucians suspect clue activity." mission 0
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sapagoo wrote:
Hope Cahill - hid clue in chip in her hand.

Do we really know that Hope hid the clue herself? Probably because I was a HUGE xphile (fan of The X-Files), I assumed that someone planted it there ala the chip in Scully's neck. Laughing

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the order of the golden fleece
http://codebreakers.the39clues.com/minigame/gfleece/
people that know locations
Broderick Wizard-knows the location of 4 Janus clues

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aliceinwunderland wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
Hope Cahill - hid clue in chip in her hand.

Do we really know that Hope hid the clue herself? Probably because I was a HUGE xphile (fan of The X-Files), I assumed that someone planted it there ala the chip in Scully's neck. Laughing

per
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/60-xray
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The patient was brought to the hospital against her will after a minor car accident. When I told her we would need to X-ray her wrist, she became visibly anxious. I assured her that the procedure was completely painless, but she was distressed and tried to leave. Her husband convinced the patient to stay, saying "Don't worry, it will mean nothing to him."

So that means that Hope and Arthur knew the chip was there. That makes me believe that either Hope, Arthur, or Grace hid it in Hope's hand with Hope's permission. (but I could be wrong)
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 		If you look at the idratod card(still cant spell) of suggests that there was a clue being transported there as well
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BEDOMII wrote:
If you look at the idratod card(still cant spell) of suggests that there was a clue being transported there as well

it's Iditarod
it's card 54,Location: The Northern Race,Tomas

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snuibi wrote:
BEDOMII wrote:
If you look at the idratod card(still cant spell) of suggests that there was a clue being transported there as well

it's Iditarod
it's card 54,Location: The Northern Race,Tomas


A clue that can withstand sub-zero temeperatures..... I wonder what that could be......

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Ekatprof wrote:
snuibi wrote:
BEDOMII wrote:
If you look at the idratod card(still cant spell) of suggests that there was a clue being transported there as well

it's Iditarod
it's card 54,Location: The Northern Race,Tomas


A clue that can withstand sub-zero temeperatures..... I wonder what that could be......

it can be liquid nitrogen Rolling Eyes

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 		It could be liquid N, but it would have been a real pain in those days to actally get it tostay and it would be slot more toticable than anyother clue so far
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sapagoo wrote:
aliceinwunderland wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
Hope Cahill - hid clue in chip in her hand.

Do we really know that Hope hid the clue herself? Probably because I was a HUGE xphile (fan of The X-Files), I assumed that someone planted it there ala the chip in Scully's neck. Laughing

per
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/60-xray
Quote:
The patient was brought to the hospital against her will after a minor car accident. When I told her we would need to X-ray her wrist, she became visibly anxious. I assured her that the procedure was completely painless, but she was distressed and tried to leave. Her husband convinced the patient to stay, saying "Don't worry, it will mean nothing to him."

So that means that Hope and Arthur knew the chip was there. That makes me believe that either Hope, Arthur, or Grace hid it in Hope's hand with Hope's permission. (but I could be wrong)
Embarassed I think you got it right. I didn't recall reading that. Thanks for the refresher. Too much information to keep in my sieve of a brain. Laughing Dunce

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sapagoo wrote:
"Jonah will find one Lucian clue in Paris.But will he find the other?" mission 0


In addition to this, I found this written when we open the card #3 (Catacombs) in 'My Cards'
Catacombs wrote:
As you know, Ben Franklin hid a vial in the St-Pierre de Montmarte church in Paris. What you don't know is that he also hid a Clue in another part of the Catacombs


Are both the statements hinting that Ben Franklin actually hid TWO CLUES in Paris Question Question

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sapagoo wrote:
Founders/Finders:

Young Grace - was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/59-grace-cahill

I followed the link and re-read Grace's note. Which part is the hint?

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aliceinwunderland wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
Founders/Finders:

Young Grace - was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/59-grace-cahill

I followed the link and re-read Grace's note. Which part is the hint?

Sorry for the confusion.
We know Grace hid the clue in Loch Ness, but that doesn't make her a founder (since she didn't actually find it, Anne Cahill gave it to her to hide).
So I was trying to find evidence that Grace had actually found a Clue.
" was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris." probably needs better punctuation, because I meant to separate the two events.
" was in Vienna. Also gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris."
We know she gave all the Clue hunters the RESOLUTION hint to lead them to Paris & the first Clue. Is that enough to make her a "Founder"?
The "was in Vienna" probably isn't enough evidence, though. Especially since the Mozart Clue was actually in Racco's mansion in Venice.
But between that letter, and the Bonus Audio from Book 2 where we know Grace was looking at Nannerl's diary, it makes me think that Grace also knew where the Mozart Clue was located.
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sapagoo wrote:
aliceinwunderland wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
Founders/Finders:

Young Grace - was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris.
http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/59-grace-cahill

I followed the link and re-read Grace's note. Which part is the hint?

Sorry for the confusion.
We know Grace hid the clue in Loch Ness, but that doesn't make her a founder (since she didn't actually find it, Anne Cahill gave it to her to hide).
So I was trying to find evidence that Grace had actually found a Clue.
" was in Vienna, gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris." probably needs better punctuation, because I meant to separate the two events.
" was in Vienna. Also gave out hint that lead to Clue in Paris."
We know she gave all the Clue hunters the RESOLUTION hint to lead them to Paris & the first Clue. Is that enough to make her a "Founder"?
The "was in Vienna" probably isn't enough evidence, though. Especially since the Mozart Clue was actually in Racco's mansion in Venice.
But between that letter, and the Bonus Audio from Book 2 where we know Grace was looking at Nannerl's diary, it makes me think that Grace also knew where the Mozart Clue was located.


I think that Grace knew where ALL the clues were hidden, and also the secret power of the Cahills, because Alistair mentions in MoB that Grace seemed to have 'woven all the clues together.' But what makes her a Founder is the copper chip which, presumably, she found and hid in her daughter's wrist

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