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[39C] The 39 Clues
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Ekatprof
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Wind Lane wrote:
The more I think about it the more I worry about whether or not Nellie really is an outsider to all the Cahill stuff.

Her clique me page has her trying to decide between a dragon or a snake nose ring - this seems just a little too much of a coincidence.

We know that she picked the snake nose ring as OFN has a quick little snippet where she's adjusting it.

She was able to subdue the Kabras a little too easily, she was even paying enough attention to spot them spiking her drink.

Also strange is that she's never with Amy and Dan when their lives are in danger. She's always either just arriving on scene or waiting for them.

I'm getting to the point where I'm thinking she came from a family where one parent was Lucian and the other was Ekaterina and that she's chosen to help out the Lucian side by keeping tabs on the Cahill kids and she's been kept a pretty good secret even from Ian and Natalie.


Same here. Nellie can be from any branch or even madrigal (still a possiblility) and she's helping her branch or branches or madrigals to spy on Amy and Dan. After all, Amy and Dan always seem to be in the lead....

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 		Re: MoB
parth2024 wrote:
Arrow When Grace dies, she was wearing her Jade necklace. Then HOW DID IT REACH HER JEWELERY BOX? AND HOW DID HER JEWELERY BOX REACH THE SECRET LIBRARY?? Question DID MCINTYRE PUT IT THERE? OR THE MAN IN BLACK? WHY???

Arrow Saladin is showed to be sitting next to Grace in her last moments. After Grace dies, he disappears under the bed when the MIB shows up. Then HOW DID HE REACH THE SECRET LIBRARY? Grace's funeral was after 2 days of her death. Saladin was surely put for some time in the library because if he stayed for 2 full days, the air would have run out. Did MIB put him there? Why? How can the MIB know about the library?

Holyxion wrote:
As for the the jade necklace, it could have just had some secret and McIntyre just needed a safe place for it til later, and as for Saladin, she's a cat. Cat's go were they want, she could have just pressed the switch by accident. He(She?) even could have been trained to go there by Grace, but I doubt it.
Wind Lane wrote:
Cats are also much smaller than people and might have found an alternate route into the hidden library.

And as for how things got where they needed to go, wouldn't it make sense that the lawyer who knew the contest was coming would also know about Grace's secret library and what needed to be put where?

I agree with Holyxion & Wind Lane.
I think Saladin got there because there is a smaller entrance that only cats can get through.
I also think that McIntyre took the jade necklace, put it in the jewelry box, and placed the jewelry box in the secret room. (maybe per instructions in Grace's will).
After first reading The Maze of Bones, I knew McIntyre worked with the Man in Black, and I thought the Man in Black was bad news. However, the 'mystery of the jade necklace' let me entertain the idea that McIntyre worked closely with Grace, knew of the secret entrance, and worked with her towards finding the 39 Clues. I trust Grace's ability to read people. The idea that the Man in Black is actually Grace's brother, Fiske, contributes to that theory.
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 		Re: MoB
sapagoo wrote:
I trust Grace's ability to read people. The idea that the Man in Black is actually Grace's brother, Fiske, contributes to that theory.


Don't we know from TST that the Man in Black is Bae Oh? Unless he and Fiske were the same person... but that seems pretty unlikely. And that would probably also mean that Grace was an Ekat.

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 		UPDATE
Peter Lerangis video blog updated (I told ya so...)
Looks like he found some secret code in San Francisco
I haven't decoded it yet. The video's still buffering...

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 		Re: MoB
tornado775 wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
I trust Grace's ability to read people. The idea that the Man in Black is actually Grace's brother, Fiske, contributes to that theory.


Don't we know from TST that the Man in Black is Bae Oh? Unless he and Fiske were the same person... but that seems pretty unlikely. And that would probably also mean that Grace was an Ekat.

I haven't read TST (on waiting list at Library), so you may be right. On a side note, I tried searching unfiction for the past weeks worth of "Bae" references, but unfiction's regular search engine doesn't search for words 3 letters or smaller. I tried searching unfiction using the "google" tool, but it doesn't sort by date, and I got all our old Bae posts from 2008. I think I'll just try reading the last week's worth of posts.
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 		Re: MoB
tornado775 wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
I trust Grace's ability to read people. The idea that the Man in Black is actually Grace's brother, Fiske, contributes to that theory.


Don't we know from TST that the Man in Black is Bae Oh? Unless he and Fiske were the same person... but that seems pretty unlikely. And that would probably also mean that Grace was an Ekat.


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In chapter 17 of TST Bae is seen talking to the man in black so he can not be the man in black

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 		Peter Langis New Code
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Bring Back The Green Diamond


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Here are my theories!

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 		Codes
The Peter Lerangis video tour thing was updated today, and there was a telegram with a code. The code is below. Any ideas?

A-q-h-m-f

a-z-b-j

s-g-d

F-q-d-d-m

C-h-z-l-n-m-c

It was written by "M" in London, and sent to "V" in Moscow.

Also, after he looks up from the paper, you can see a man standing a little farther down the road. He may just be a random person who was standing there while they were video taping, but he looks rather suspicious if you ask me. Is he possibly the man in black?

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There is a new game up called gridlock Foily!
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 		Green Diamond... Maybe the Dresden Green? It does have It's picture on the back of the Hope Diamond's card, so it could be important.

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 		Diamonds
It doesn't make sense. How do you find a clue in a diamond or is the clue actually diamonds. It could be because diamond is the hardest rock.
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 		Re: Diamonds
soccerbeast wrote:
It doesn't make sense. How do you find a clue in a diamond or is the clue actually diamonds. It could be because diamond is the hardest rock.


Diamonds are often mined out of solid rock. It's quite possible that something that is typically found when mining diamonds was in a condensed or large quantity inside the bits of the hope diamond when it was cut down to its present size.
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 		Or it could be inside the diamond, for example like I said a couple pages ago, it could be boron since the Hope Diamond is chock full of it(by diamond standards).

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 		Some interesting notes on diamonds with highlighted areas added for emphasis.

Wikipedia article on Diamonds wrote:
Electrical conductivity

Other specialized applications also exist or are being developed, including use as semiconductors: some blue diamonds are natural semiconductors, in contrast to most other diamonds, which are excellent electrical insulators. The conductivity and blue color originate from the boron impurity. Boron substitutes for carbon atoms in the diamond lattice, donating a hole into the valence band.

Substantial conductivity is commonly observed in nominally undoped diamond grown by chemical vapor deposition. This conductivity is associated with hydrogen-related species adsorbed at the surface, and it can be removed by annealing or other surface treatments.


Wikipedia article on the Hope Diamond wrote:
Physical properties

An examination in December 1988 by the Gemological Institute of America's Gem Trade Lab (GIA-GTL) showed the diamond to weigh 45.52 carats (9.104 g) and described it as "fancy dark grayish-blue." A re-examination in 1996 slightly rephrased that description as "fancy deep grayish-blue." The stone exhibits an unusually intense and strongly-coloured type of luminescence: after exposure to long-wave ultraviolet light, the diamond produces a brilliant red phosphorescence ('glow-in-the-dark' effect) that persists for some time after the light source has been switched off. The clarity was determined to be VS1, with whitish graining present. The cut was described as being "cushion antique brilliant with a faceted girdle and extra facets on the pavilion." The dimensions in terms of length, width, and depth are 25.60mm × 21.78mm × 12.00mm (1in × 7/8in × 15/32in).


Wikipedia article the Koh-i-Noor wrote:
According to another legend, whoever owns the Koh-i-Noor rules the world.


Wikipedia article on the Dresden Green Diamond wrote:
The stone's unique green color is due to natural exposure to radioactive materials.


Some of this has already been covered I believe, but the bit about how diamonds can be used in electrical circuitry had me intrigued.
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