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We make codes and then try to make other people crack them
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Franz Kafka
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Joined: 05 Aug 2008
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We make codes and then try to make other people crack them

I've been doing this with a friend for a while, and thought I'd bring it here.

The current one from a friend:
15974.1.463684.144.34.377.1597.6765.21.144.28657.14.1597.46368.2584.377.34.144.144.34.13.15

Here's the pattern I've found: Almost EVERY number is a fibonacci number. Two are fibonacci numbers with a 4 next to them (15974, 463684), and two are totally random (14, 15).
Each block of numbers is one letter.
Any ideas?

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will free
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Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Is that the only data he's supposed to give you? On one hand, a lot more cyphertext is needed to search for patterns if one tries hard to hide them. On the other hand, a few more clues (as in, more than zero) are needed to make something an interesting puzzle for one's spare time instead of just hours of tedious work for a stressed military cryptographer.

I feel inclined to quote this prom another thread:

TheIllustratedMan wrote:

It's incredibly easy to make a puzzle that's impossible without massive trial and error. It's incredibly easy to make a puzzle that solves without much thought. It's incredibly difficult to make a puzzle that can be solved in a logical manner with lots of work and thought.

When you make a puzzle, your goal is to have it solved. If you want people to solve it quickly, cool. But if you want a really tricky puzzle that people will have to work at in order to solve, you have to do just as much work as the solver will. You need to link steps in a logical manner, using some freely available knowledge and some esoteric knowledge that is led to by the steps.

If your goal is to create an impossible code, it's actually pretty arbitrary. Mine is on the simpler side of impossible (you can use a computer to just trial-and-error the hell out of it until you get something legible), but there is no logical way to solve it, therefore it's a terrible puzzle. There are algorithms that are pretty much impossible, but they could still be eventually solved, since in order to get any data back out of it there is a progression of steps to be taken. You need a crap-load of data to crack it, but it will always be possible.


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