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[39C] The 39 Clues

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snuibi
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Back in time
extra part-Cards

katsmom wrote:

I'm going to attempt to make notes on each of hte cards used. No crying if I get it wrong, but do correct me.
1. Purpose unknown, lot shared
2.Dan
3, paris (clue 1)
4. titanic clue
5. ?
6. venice fits with card 19
7?
8?
9? mentioned in book 2
10? mentioned in book 2
11 book 2 venice strong hold entrance
12?
13? mentioned wth lan nguyan card 21
14?
15?
16?
17?
18?
19?fits with card 6
20 clue 5
21 new clue hunter
22?
23?
24?
25?
26? mentioned in book 2
27? mission 1
27?
28?
29?
30?
31?
32?
39mentioned at end of book2
40?
41? James Chaill was not a lucian
42?not mentioned (book 3?)
43?
44?
45?
46?
47?
48 book 1 (franklin connection)
49? mission 1
50 lucian archives
52?
53 Holts
54?
55?
56 (book 3?)
57?
58?
59 all over
60 clue 4
61 venice
62?
63?
64?
65?
66 all over
67?
68?

Now if all of these have a connectin and use by the end of book 3, we haven't seen much at all yet. I think that they might carry over into other books. There are just way too many unused cards for them to only be used with book 3

maybe we can put all into this

Maggie wrote:

Cards from book 1:

#1 Secret: Surveillance Card - Ekatrina
Who:

Maze of Bones, page 134 wrote:

Who: "It's him." Dan showed Amy the photo � an older man with gray hair and a black suit, crossing the street. The photo was fuzzy, but it must've been taken in Paris. Dan could tell from the yellow stone buildings and the French signs. "The man in black is here."

There is no hat mentioned and the photo is in black and white, but the first picture could be the same one as Dan saw in the Lucian headquarters.

What: Mozart's graveyard has been mentioned (I haven't read One False Note)

Where: London, England hasn't been mentioned as yet.

The bug was set on Saladin at the end of Maze of Bones and was put on an Ekatrina (Alistair Oh) in One False Note.

#2: Dan Cahill - Cahill
Other than Beacon Hill, Maze of Bones.

#3: Catacombs - Lucian
Maze of Bones

#4: The Titanic - Lucian (see #5)
Nella Chain = Anne Cahill = Ekatrina
Mission #1

#5 George McClain - Tomas
Experiment, Georgia � surveillance of Nella Chain (see Card #4)
Mission #1

#6 Thomas Jefferson - Janus
Lost Franklin in Paris � probably see mention of Jefferson again because of his house, Monticello, in Virginia, as no tourist allowed visit skydome.

Maggie wrote:

#7: Maria Maraposa - Janus
Guard the hidden; books are full of twists -- Frankenstein source of truth; have wolf heart (see #13)

Found on a beach: My family stretches around the world like a snake eating its own tail.
Above a belly button: The prize is buried beneath years of Cahill pride heavier than stone.
Written on a wall: To London fled Jane Because her spirit was burned -- art sprang from her tears

The first one makes sense as it is talking about the Cahill family and the family is destroying each other trying to find the clues.

What is heavier than stone?

Who is this Jane Maria is talking about and for the art buffs out there, which person had artwork coming from their pain or sadness?

#8: Ophir Dhupam � Janus (see #12)
21-19-20-1-4 translates Ustad = Muslim

Ustad Ahmad Lahauri - architect of Taj Mahal & groundwork @ Red Fort, Delhi

Hollywood star & Janus agent starring in "The Four Quarters of My Heart. Rumour has it that Prateek Ghupta, Ophir's agent, true power

The Four Quarters = heart made of 4 sections = each section for each family
My Heart = see #12 = parents of Katherine, Jane, Thomas, and Luke rolling over in grave thanks to their children's arguing

Have yet to meet Prateek Ghupta

#10: Flying Ace - Janus
Janus branch = do we know where Lufbery went on solo mission?

#11: Hidden Notes - Janus
Code: Dead Aged Face = Could be connection to #4 & #5

Disco Volante (flying disc) Janus hangout. Suspect Janus use music pass messages, no one has figured out how. (see One False Note)

#12: Taj Mahal � Janus (see #8 )
Taj Mahal, Agra, India -- tomb built by Shah Jahan (1600's) beloved wife Mumtaz Mahal died -- most beautiful building -- inlaid w/ carvings & semi-precious gems -- main building divides exactly into 4 sections. Does each section represent each of the 4 branches?

#13: Frankenstein - Janus (see #7)
Frankenstein (1816-1817) by Mary Shelley nee Godwin @ age 19. suspected to be Janus agent, staying in Switzerland w/ Lord Byron & Percy Byssche Shelley. Challenged to ghost story contest. Long suspected book hid clue. Publisher promised to keep Lord Byron away from work being published.

"the dreams of forgotten alchemists." (Chapter 3) (see #65)

#14: Imposters - Janus (see 24)
Jeanne (de Valois-St. Remy) needs to hold her head like the Queen

Count Alessandro Di Cagliostro (AKA Giuseppe Balsalmo) 18th C Janus agent, alchemist, expert forger. Best known for affair with Diamond Necklace (AKA Hope Diamond). Believed helped try steal magnificant diamond Paris jeweller wanted sell to Maria Antoinette, Queen of France. may involved coaching young woman impersonate Maria for theft. Serious interest in French Crown Jewels ... no one will say why.

This is the card that has most intrigued me as it wasn't Jeanne who impersonated the Queen, but an actress/prostitute she hired to do the job.

Balsalmo was never proven to be part of the Hope Diamond Affair. Jeanne's husband was caught selling diamonds.

#15: Telegram � Janus (see #4 & #5 & #11)
After the sinking of Titanic, Janus branch intercepted telegram meant for surviving passenger, after fateful night -- is clue at bottom of ocean or did it survive?

Fellow passengers lovely. One girl keeps to herself. (Anne Cahill) Clue still missing

#16: Eagle Eye � Janus (see #72)
Spencer (Langendeon) -- leader of Janus branch

Bob ?? = Malibu
Dermott = exploding sculptures, powder traces along wall read by black light
Garnett = music, fresh organic, farm-fed Finnish hare & fresh squeezed tomoto juice
Bruce = throwing bottles @ people & threatening them over phone middle of night
Kurt = MUSE

Black light already seen and used in Maze of Bones.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:35 pm
Last edited by snuibi on Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:08 pm; edited 1 time in total

Sherlock_39
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

snuibi wrote:

This time i found this:

TheRealPip wrote:

This would be a very very complex coumpund (not sure I have ever seen one with more than 6 or 7 elements, however I am sure they exist.... but 39?) and you would not know the method of combination or the ratios. For example.... Carbon and Oxyogen can combin into CO2 (carbon dioxide) or CO (carbon monoxide) or even other rarer combinations. If you include ions it gets even more complex (Hydrogen and Oxygen can combine into H2O (water), H3O+ (Hydronium), or OH- (Hydroxide). So just knowing the ingredients without the ratio wouldn't give you a solution.

So, if the order isn't important, and you need them all, and there is no ratio or instructions that are being provided..... I keep coming back to a word jumble, created by the element (and maybe future compound) symbol names. I admit this theory has a few holes, but come on... we are only on clue 5/39 here.

and this about lilya and irina

Knerdherd wrote:

Well still, you did a good job of researching for every one(I now have 46 surveillance card codes). you'd think that people would be a little more forthcoming with these codes, but maybe they think that if they give a way their code, anyone who uses it will be able to "see" into their account. Sad

I'm not sure if this is TROUT, but i think there is a link between Irina Spasky and Lilya Chernova. if you go to this Cahill Web page:

http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/408-the-spaz

you will see a "discovered" report about Irina Spasky. in it, it mentions this:

Quote:

Recently, she requested to be stationed in St. Petersburg, citing a "family emergency" as her reason.

One objection to this theory is that Irina is a Lucian, while Lilya is an Ekat. still, seems kinda fishy to me. Shifty Eyes

If memory serves, this is where Lilya goes to high school, right? Coincidence? I think not. Confused

Sherlock39 wrote:

Sorry Knerdherd, but that file was made in 1992, and if Lilya is 16 now, then she would just have been born. Of course, Irina might have been investigating her parents, who happen to be high-ranking Ekats, during a time when they might have let their guard down while caring for baby Lilya. We do know for a fact, however, that Irina was investigating something to do with the cahills, hence "family business" and the fact that she hid it from the KGB. Idea

Knerdherd wrote:

Thank you for pointing that out sherlock39. I had seen that, but it hadn't clicked. I still say there might be something there, and i like your idea of "family business". I also think that she might have gone to assassinate Lilya as a baby,although there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that points to this, other than normal "branch rivalry"

well now we know

what do you mean?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:25 pm

snuibi
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

Sherlock_39 wrote:

snuibi wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:

well now we know

what do you mean?

Lilya's family(the Chernova's) have the diamond clue

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:47 pm

soccerbeast
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

Sherlock_39 wrote:

snuibi wrote:

This time i found this:

TheRealPip wrote:

and this about lilya and irina

Knerdherd wrote:

Quote:

Recently, she requested to be stationed in St. Petersburg, citing a "family emergency" as her reason.

One objection to this theory is that Irina is a Lucian, while Lilya is an Ekat. still, seems kinda fishy to me. Shifty Eyes

If memory serves, this is where Lilya goes to high school, right? Coincidence? I think not. Confused

Sherlock39 wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:

well now we know

what do you mean?

That is some serious back in time.

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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:18 pm

Sherlock_39
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

soccerbeast wrote:

Sherlock_39 wrote:

snuibi wrote:

This time i found this:

TheRealPip wrote:

and this about lilya and irina

Knerdherd wrote:

Quote:

Recently, she requested to be stationed in St. Petersburg, citing a "family emergency" as her reason.

One objection to this theory is that Irina is a Lucian, while Lilya is an Ekat. still, seems kinda fishy to me. Shifty Eyes

If memory serves, this is where Lilya goes to high school, right? Coincidence? I think not. Confused

Sherlock39 wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:

well now we know

what do you mean?

That is some serious back in time.

Yes, yes it is.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:52 pm

snuibi
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

Sherlock_39 wrote:

soccerbeast wrote:

That is some serious back in time.

Yes, yes it is.

let's small the posts shall we?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:47 pm

ZephyrStorm777
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Location: Broken Hill, Australia (Not Really)

???

Hi, I'm new here and I have a question. Which diamond exactly are we talking about. Because I got a message in my inbox that had a list of a few diamonds but on card 37 (Jean-Baptiste Taverneir) it has some diamond names too but some of them are completely different.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:54 pm

Kapow512
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Re: ???

Quote:

Mainly the Hope Diamond, supposedly on card 24, but also the Dresen Green, mentioned in Peter's 3rd video.

P.S Welcome

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:59 am

Ekatprof
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

snuibi wrote:

Sherlock_39 wrote:

soccerbeast wrote:

That is some serious back in time.

Yes, yes it is.

let's small the posts shall we?

Sir, yes sir! We shall follow your orders, sir! Laughing

It is very possible based on what Sir sniubi brought to us that the diamond clue is with the Chernovas. Perhaps even in front of our very noses..... (card 24/necklace)

It could also be on the island, codenamed "Lilyaland". Wink

Although that is very unlikely.

P.S: Ah.... Page 84 was where I first joined the forum. Wonder where knerdherd is now? Hunting for clues?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:55 am

snuibi
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

Ekatprof wrote:

It is very possible based on what Sir sniubi brought to us that the diamond clue is with the Chernovas. Perhaps even in front of our very noses..... (card 24/necklace)

P.S: Ah.... Page 84 was where I first joined the forum. Wonder where knerdherd is now? Hunting for clues?

sir snuibi,i like that!
also many other people stopped posting:

username(last post date)

tyty2001(Jan 21,2009)
jadeandy(Dec 17,2008)
RUSTY96(Nov 30, 2008)
Dosido(Jan 09, 2009)
ThePolarBear(Nov 28, 2008)
patso2572(Nov 28, 2008)
jvolgmann(Dec 18, 2008)
Henry Bridge(Dec 02, 2008)
pimpinmidget(Dec 02, 2008)
thebeliver(Jan 06, 2009)
TheRealPip(Dec 16, 2008)
stevesworld(Dec 03, 2008)

that just to name few

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:19 am

soccerbeast
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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

snuibi wrote:

Ekatprof wrote:

sir snuibi,i like that!
also many other people stopped posting:

We are cool because we still post.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:44 am

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Re: Back in time
part 2 (page 81 to 90 )

snuibi wrote:

Ekatprof wrote:

sir snuibi,i like that!
also many other people stopped posting:

I think the only one I saw here on that list is TheRealPip? I'm not sure though... BTW, My first post was around.... umm..... 157?

PS.... Doesn't bruce post much anymore?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:58 am

sapagoo
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http://www.the39clues.com/cahillweb/article/Reply-to-letter-from-Grutty

glalieguy wrote:

Sherlock_39 wrote:

soccerbeast wrote:

P.P.S. What is the answer for the code in the inbox? I can't figure it out.

Heres the code.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Completely clean, the florentine does not contain anything.

Its a B=A code.

How come there's a A=U paper behind it? I tried it... and the other way around... didn't make sense... Grace tricked us!!! Very Happy

It is the B=A code, it just wouldn't all fit on the page:

Code:

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t
u v w x y z

z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s
t u v w x y

And it's from Mr. Grutty, not Grace. This was dated 1921, and Grace wasn't born till 1929.

P.S. if you haven't used it, unfiction has a nice ROT tool
http://www.unfiction.com/resource/rot-it/
Gives you all 26 rotations. If you forget the url, it's linked from the main www.unfiction.com page.

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:59 am

eveningstar76
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COde from last inbox message

In researching what the code from the last inbox message could mean I came up with a possibility.

Florentine Diamond.
According to Wikipedia.....
It is a lost diamond of Indian origin. It is light yellow in color with slight green overtones. The documented history begins when Jean Baptiste Tavernier, saw the stone among the possessions of Ferdinando II de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany in 1657. It goes on to say that it was rumoured that the diamond was brought into the United States in the 1920s and was recut and sold.

Since the message was Completely clean, the florentine does not contain anything. This could mean this is not the diamond with the clue.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:36 pm
Last edited by eveningstar76 on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:32 pm; edited 1 time in total

iAnthony
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Indian diamonds

Why are all these diamonds from india?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:12 pm

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