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[LOCKED] Discuss the Axon .wav files and their transscripts here
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improvius
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I did a search and didn't find anything on this yet:

I think the Sleeping Princess might actually be Sophia. SP describes herself as an "innocent bystander." I don't know... I'm just not sold on Jan being the SP. SP strikes me as more of a typical teenage girl, not some sort of super-smart fighting machine. I'm leaning more towards Jan/Melissa and Sophia/SP right now...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:15 pm
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quick you_could transcript

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
You mean like spying on her? I thought chatter lines were encrypted. No one could listen in on me... could they?

Not at all.

*breath* You could!

Of course not.

You could, couldn't you?

Maybe a little.

Show me.

Ok. Well If some bad person couldn't live without the sound of your voice, he'd probably start by doing a reverse lookup on your chatter sig.

Is this what you always do to impress girls?

(You) see why my mother makes all my dates?
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Transcript of you_could

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

(Sophia) You mean like, spying on her? I thought chatter lines were encryped. Noone could listen in on me, could they?

(Kamal) Not at all.

(Sophia) (gasp) you could!

(Kamal)Of course not

(Sophia) You could, couldnt you?

(Kamal) Maybe a little

(Sophia) Show me

(Kamal) Ok... well if some... bad person... couldnt live without the sound of your voice, he'd probably start by doing a reverse lookup on your chatter sig.

(Sophia) Is this what you always do to impress girls?

(Kamal) You see why my mother makes all my dates?

(Sophia Laughs)


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Guest Again wrote:
Wally wrote:
the people that are so obsessed with jan actually being james's child remind me of rabid sailor moon fans for some reason.... something about nsisting that sailor blah blah is not lesbian just because she is in love with insert dude who actually changes into sailor blah blah.... someone look it up in fall of reach, i want that to be an established fact before we hear it again that jan is in fact james's kid


I want that to be an established fact that she isn't his child before someone mentions it again.

Fact is, it could be either at the moment so its best to follow both avenues.


The issue is the timeline. James was listed as MIA at the Fall Of Reach in the battle at the Orbital Platform. As I recall he was blasted out into space. Earth comes under attack by Covenant Forces three weeks later. Assuming this is in "the past" of the Halo 2 storyline that doesn't give James time to escape and have a 17 year old daughter.

Also, the augmentations on the Spartans were surgically added. I don't think they are the kind of things that would be "passed on" to offspring.

I like the "Jan as a Spartan 3" arguement a lot better.
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KaptainKlak wrote:
Jan is James' daughter. James is not a SPARTAN II. More than likely, he's a ONI spook. Jan wouldn't inherit metal grafted to her bones from anybody anyway. Even if the Master Chief had a kid, they wouldn't have a metal augmented skeleton and they wouldn't have augmented muscles. They would have good reflexes, probably a good battle awareness, and they'd probably inherit his luck. That's it.

People on steroids don't have super-strong babies.


Yeah, but those with bigger muscles faster reflexes and stronger bone structures naturally were chosen by halsey for the spartans and these traits were enough to allow the spartans to handle things like a 3 storey fall originally. I mean a firefighter jumped out of the 88th floor of the WTC and survived with only a bruise didnt he?

Doesnt stop jan being an S3 either.

Or a test subject for original implantations as her fathers a spook
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GunsmithCat wrote:
msekolpsu wrote:
The big question, since Theorizer has pointed out Jan could not have been used to create Melissa due to Jersey's lookup of her, how can Melissa, an AI, have access or recreate Jan's memories? Is Jan alive?


Probably the same way Jersey can interject a jealous girlfriend into a conversation many, many miles away. They're not memories but recordings.


Even if it is a recording, how many times is Durga going to time travel then? It seems as though Durga is the same thing that infects Melissa in Phase 1. I would assume that Durga encounters Melissa and Jersey in the same time frame. If not, that would mean Jan is used to create Melissa, Durga infects Melissa and then goes back in time to when Jan is alive and helps Jersey spy on her.

That doesn't make sense.

Although, I can't think of a scenario where Jan and Melissa are connected and Jersey could still have the hots for her. It would seem Melissa would have to be neurally connected to Jan somehow.

I need clarity on the timeframe between Jersey and Durga and the Phase 1 text.
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at the end of durga:

Jersey: could you get pictures?

Durga: I can do better than that.....

leads into Durga tapping into the security system / MP's watching Jan and relays that back to Jersey


good spec? trout?
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KaptainKlak, thanks for brining up my point.

Nothing suggests that 'Dad' is anything other the special (special) forces. There is no indication that he is any kind of super solder. In you_knew he ever mentions that there is an entire support team. Although it is clear that he caused the fire to happen there is no indication that he himself actually implemented it.

Also, remember that there is more to a Father-Daughter relationship then just biology. Adoptive parents are still called Mom and Dad. A 'handler' that has been handling and raising a child from a VERY young age will have much the same relationship as an adoptive parent with no biological relationship.

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I posted this in the wrong thread

I did post this before but in the wrong thread:


I',m not sure if anyone even has read what I placed earlier but it is bothering me. Noone has really "LISTENED" to the wav files. I analiyzed them 1 by 1 with my comp and found that they are recordings from what apears to be a movie/animation (certain pitches show up if they come from tv, video etc...) plus, the one that really gets me is the fact that "Jans" voice is the same exact voice as "DANA" let me know if anyone else figures anything else out
It actually sounds more like an animation now with the other hot.

anyone else tried this? let me know what you find out

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Okay so far.

Jan is either a spartan 3. Or,
Jan is a test subject for original implantations liberated by an oni spook. Or,
Jan is the child of a spartan so has above average human strengths but not supery spartan stuff.

Jan is going to be made into Melissa in the future. Or,
Jan is being spied on by an AI under orders of Jersey.
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Spartan offspring wouldn't have the Spartan's ultra-superhuman traits, but they would be genetically superior to most. Most of the Spartans' enhancements are surgical or medical in nature (artificially boosted thyroid activity to cause them to grow bigger, implants designed to boost muscle mass a reflexes, etc), so they wouldn't be passed on. I really think that Jan isn't Spartan offspring, though it's possible, given that the Spartans have been around for 40-something years by the time of the Fall of Reach. My instincts say that she's a part of Ackerson's S3 program under the control of an ONI handler. Jan's attitude would reflect Ackerson's attitude of brashness and impudence, which contrasts with John's (the Master Chief) stoic nature, which reflects Dr. Halsey's rather stoic nature. It's a stretch, but not entirely implausable. Ackerson obviously considered the Spartans "freaks", so it might make sense that he would be trying to engineer supersoldiers that were more like normal humans.

It sounds like she was on some sort of op in the base, maybe an impromptu op with her fellow trainees. Durga somehow caused a blackout ("We would never have caught her if not for the blackout."), which led to Jan being caught. It's possible that this was caused by Durga after Jersey asks for pictures of Jan (as in, she attempted to hijack the base's cameras to watch her for Jersey).

I don't think that she told her "father" the truth about it being a dare.

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Re: Jan - Durga Connection

raw19 wrote:
OK, Here's my take:

Jan is a (Spartan, protoype, Spartan 3, whatever) which means she has an AI chip implanted in her.


I don't think so. Spartans can only accomodate an AI when wearing MJOLNIR II armor, because the it is the armour that has the direct link to the wearer's reflexes and thoughts.

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question: What does this mean?

"It was some friends of mine, they turtled a razor-back and then they had to return the gate pass, or else Dwain's dad was going to get spiked for dereliction."

Its from law_abiding. I know the part about the gate pass and dereliction mean, but what about the part before it? What the hell is turtled a razor-back?


Nevermind. While I was typing that I think I figured it out: (maybe everyone else knows this and I am just stupid) They said that there was a vehicle stolen from the motor pool (military term), and dumped in a ditch, right? Well, what could a razor back be? A warthog, perhaps? (see where I am going?) Turtled would mean flipped, as in couldn't upside down and couldn't get it back over.

Maybe that's old news, but it sounded good to me.

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A thought..

We know that the entity/ies (i'll lump all of them in as Melissa here for clarity) inhabiting ILB.com are transmitting us voices that she believes are responsible for her crash here. We got a message telling us that.

That should help to put some of the [SPEC] about Jen being ghosted and copied into Melissa into perspective. I'm not convinced that like of thinking is quite right.

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There also seems to be some confusion as to what 'ghosting' is.

Some seem to see it as some kind of brain image copy that could be used to create an AI. Personally I have seen nothing to support that.
The evidence points much more strongly to the idea that ghosting is more like shadowing (to use the PC terminology) in that you get a shadow (or ghost) copy of whatever the target sees and hears.

We seem to have two 'hackers' here. We have Durga hacking Jan and we have Kamal hacking Aiden.

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