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AngryEd wrote:
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surgury is an event extrnal to natural change. if you put metal into a dudes body, and he gets a girl pregnant, the kind wont have that same metal.
[OT] but umm does anyone know if wolverine (X-Men) gets a boner? like seriously, his bones are made of metal, but what about his family jewels? Laughing [/OT]


But you know there really isn't a bone in an erection..... right? Shocked
I might be..... different B.S.
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msekolpsu wrote:
Thread is OT. Focus! Focus!
Sorry, so where we? Oh right, so who else think Jan has a penis? Laughing j/k
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If someone were to cut-off thier left hand, that person (let's call him "Person A") would have to live to learn with it, and would be imprintied into a evoultionary memory of sorts (it's the same if you break a bone). If Person A were to have a child ("Person B"), and thier left hand was cut-off they would be able to deal with it better because Person B's genetics are different to Person A's because of evoulotion. Now if this were to happen for, say, five generations, the genetics would be so adapted to not having a left hand, the sixth generation ("Person C") might not have a left hand, or a less developed left hand.

This is demorstrated by losing of our tails, and our all over bodily hair.

If someone was to be surgicaly enhanced, and then that persons offspring, and that persons offspring, and that persons offspring, and that persons offspring might already have the surgical enhancements because of evoulotion.


Well that was very mixed so i hope you got the idea.

This is likely offtopic, but no, that's wrong. The fundamentals of evolution are a) lots and lots of time, and b) survival of the fittest. Unless not having a left hand causes you to become more fit for survival, the chances of your genes propagating drop, and thus, the trait dies out given enough time. Specific members of a species don't create new evolutionary traits by adapting to their circumstances; rather, certain traits emerge because they make that particular specimen more fit for survival, and they outlive their competitors, which leads to the eventual propagation of the gene throughout the species, given that the advantage is "strong" enough.

Regardless, one generation would not be enough for any sort of evolved trait to show up, so the point is moot.


well, i do agree that its not really relavent, but thats not entirely true what you said. there was a species of fish that were known to have sight, but a group that lived and repopulated in a cave somewhere ( i forget where ) after a long time started to be born blind because they didnt need sight in the dark cave. its not survival, its just that their eyes were never used, and this passed genetically. but yeah, somebody losing a hand is different. maybe if they were born without a hand it would matter.



No thats survival of the fittest, having unused eyes was an excess energy requirement meaning they had to get more food than most and would have less energy to produce more offspring
So overtime, as theres less food and more babies produced by those with lesser energy requirements ie smaller eyes to unused eyes, those with eyes are outcompeted and lose their trait for eyes to be passed on as its too rare to show up and of no use. I hope that made sense.
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Stormy wrote:
does anyone else notice that the crazy "rewind" sounds seem to come at the beginning and end of a block? like someone rewinding to a specific spot?
No...... Screwy


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Stormy wrote:
does anyone else notice that the crazy "rewind" sounds seem to come at the beginning and end of a block? like someone rewinding to a specific spot?


:if you no linkie, you don't get to use the trout icon: -krystyn


yes it could be rewinding or fastforwarding of a recording or of a data file that is contained in the AI

it is generally assumed that what we are receiving with rewind and fastforward points are what jersey is remotely viewing via durga, jans convo with her date and the hacker are all some kind of memory of melissa's
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ABoxInABox wrote:
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Spartan offspring wouldn't have the Spartan's ultra-superhuman traits, but they would be genetically superior to most. Most of the Spartans' enhancements are surgical or medical in nature (artificially boosted thyroid activity to cause them to grow bigger, implants designed to boost muscle mass a reflexes, etc), so they wouldn't be passed on.

Although it is possible.

If someone were to cut-off thier left hand, that person (let's call him "Person A") would have to live to learn with it, and would be imprintied into a evoultionary memory of sorts (it's the same if you break a bone). If Person A were to have a child ("Person B"), and thier left hand was cut-off they would be able to deal with it better because Person B's genetics are different to Person A's because of evoulotion. Now if this were to happen for, say, five generations, the genetics would be so adapted to not having a left hand, the sixth generation ("Person C") might not have a left hand, or a less developed left hand.

This is demorstrated by losing of our tails, and our all over bodily hair.

If someone was to be surgicaly enhanced, and then that persons offspring, and that persons offspring, and that persons offspring, and that persons offspring might already have the surgical enhancements because of evoulotion.


Well that was very mixed so i hope you got the idea.


that is the most perverted example of evolution I have ever seen. that's not how it works. We lost our tails becuase they no longer served a purpose not becaue they were cut off from generation to generation. When a trait becomes obsolete there is less selective pressure to keep it and thus, those who have non-fuctioning or absent "whatevers" are allowed to reproduce and pass that faulty trait to offspring. Eventually over tens of thousands of years (not 6 generations) the "whatever" will no longer be expressed. The human apendix is going through this process as we speak.

Sorry for the off topicness but I am a biologist and bad biology bugs me.

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AngryEd wrote:
Back to the topic, I don't think we have any proof to connect this story to the halo or marathon or even myth universes as of yet.

Another possible theory might be that the AI is a split of Cortana from the period after Halo 1, and has been "sent" back in time to warn them of the impending attack of the flood and covenant. But because of the fragmentation and shick of traveling through time, loses awareness of identity and mission.
To realte to the halo universe, AI's, and ghosting (I have a feeling it was once very breafly mentioned).
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Stormy wrote:
another idea:

Jan asks the cop during the interrogation if maybe he is a terrorist? Do you think that could be her dad? During the Jersey-Durga conversation, Durga says that he has a fake name and ID. So, he isn't really Jan's dad (by the spike on the baseline during the interrogation). What does anyone else think?
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 		Did you know I have 67 posts? I didn't I thought I was like at 20, anyways can't remember but how much longer until My_Goat gets hot
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Did you know I have 67 posts? I didn't I thought I was like at 20, anyways can't remember but how much longer until My_Goat gets hot

about 3 hours
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Did you know I have 67 posts? I didn't I thought I was like at 20, anyways can't remember but how much longer until My_Goat gets hot

about 3 hours
I thought another 3 beers would do it, but I dunno.
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Did you know I have 67 posts? I didn't I thought I was like at 20, anyways can't remember but how much longer until My_Goat gets hot

about 3 hours
I thought another 3 beers would do it, but I dunno.

Lace the beers with one type of every pill in your house, you might wake up in time for the axon to go hot. Or in hospital.
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Did you know I have 67 posts? I didn't I thought I was like at 20, anyways can't remember but how much longer until My_Goat gets hot

about 3 hours
I thought another 3 beers would do it, but I dunno.

Lace the beers with one type of every pill in your house, you might wake up in time for the axon to go hot. Or in hospital.
LOL did anyone notcie how I edited the name "My_Goat gets hot"
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Wally wrote:
surgury is an event extrnal to natural change. if you put metal into a dudes body, and he gets a girl pregnant, the kind wont have that same metal.

No, but if the same process happened over generations, then the space for the metal might be there, or whatever the metal did (if anything) would be done because the evoulotionary process is use to it.

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This is likely offtopic, but no, that's wrong. The fundamentals of evolution are a) lots and lots of time, and b) survival of the fittest. Unless not having a left hand causes you to become more fit for survival, the chances of your genes propagating drop, and thus, the trait dies out given enough time. Specific members of a species don't create new evolutionary traits by adapting to their circumstances; rather, certain traits emerge because they make that particular specimen more fit for survival, and they outlive their competitors, which leads to the eventual propagation of the gene throughout the species, given that the advantage is "strong" enough.

Losing our tails did not make us fitter. In fact, it made us less equipted to climb trees and such.

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Regardless, one generation would not be enough for any sort of evolved trait to show up, so the point is moot.

Who's to say it's one generation? This could be in any point in time, there has been no date of any kind.

Nola wrote:
Was your daughter/sister/mother born with ear piercings? How many generations in your family has had ear peircings?

How long ago was it that piercings were widley available - we're probobly just in the third generation now. And who's to say that every girl in that family was to have her ears pierced?

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One piece of info related to Melissa (from old ILB Fun Stuff page).
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"Humor me," the Castaway said, playing : music in his room, ancient music, Jazz and Swing, : all in the mood. "Melissa", he said, "Have a drink with me". : I don't drink, but I asked for something anyway and sat, : holographically, and drank with him. He wasn't : regular crew, just along for the ride. We picked him up in : deep space, where he deployed Buoys, sending out waves of sound : to confuse the Enemy. A man that : seemed noble, classical and pure. A sailor with : Odysseus. He told stories about soldiers caught : waist deep in water, facing the enemy, their backs to : the Sea. "Melissa", he called me Melissa, never : used my nickname, "It's a sad thing I'm married, : You could break my heart". The weather was stormy, scratched vinyl and : all of us, a long way from home: I felt real.


I'm thinking "the Castaway" is Jersey's Father. Any takers?
1) He's deploying buoys in deep space - Jason Merelli (father) is "radio beacon deployment" (from jersey.wav)

2) Castaway is Married - So is Jason Merelli

3) Jass and Swing playing in the castaway's room - Jersey Merelli has the same stuff playing in his room in jersey.wav

Now, what does it connect with?


Very Nice... Very Logical...

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