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3v1L Schwinn
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I sent....
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On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Three Schwinn <threevilschwinn> wrote:

Um. what about all that information you collected? I gave you my personal information as I am sure a lot of people did. I am sure a lot of them are as mad as I am. SO what are you doing with the information and how can we trust you if you say you going to delete it. I mean the hole thing started out as an act of revenge. What if BB decides to sue you?


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I am beating myself up so much more than you or Brian ever could. Believe me. And I SWEAR that I have deleted all personal info submitted. As stupid as it sounds now, I actually got to a point where I was trying to run a real game. I have no beef with anyone who was playing and all names, addresses and phone numbers were deleted this afternoon. I was only collecting them for the next part of the game. I have no reason to have or use that info now. And if he sues me, I'm the one who is liable for everything. I'm sorry.


I have since sent him a request to come to the chat room and so far no reply
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brianbricker site is now completely "un-hacked" as it were.

oraclewatch doorknob is gone & replaced with

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ALL personal information submitted to this site has been deleted.
I know you have no reason to believe me, but I swear it's true.
My issue was with him, not you. I was actually trying to run a good game.


hazeltinereport has completely yanked everything except for:
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I'm Sorry
Forgive me.


JDM's twitter is down

finditandjoinus & findthewriter & portking are all still live



edit - and Ron is on IRC right now

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Addlepated is colorizing us up an IRC log and posting it, but I'll make a little placeholder just so you guys who aren't in IRC are aware.

Game is still on, Ron was not who he led us to believe. Worry not.

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21:31:20 *** Ron (CS-Guest31SPLATchat-solu-A2146CDC.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined the channel
21:31:28 <Schwinn> !!!!
21:31:40 <Schwinn> Hello Ron
21:31:51 <Schwinn> I aumed Ron D
21:31:51 <Ron> Hi.
21:31:54 <Schwinn> Asume
21:31:55 <Ron> Not sure what to say.
21:32:07 <Schwinn> *Assume
21:32:16 <Schwinn> damn I kant spel
21:32:16 <Ron> I'm pretty upset. I didn't come to get yelled at.
21:32:27 <Ron> ok?
21:32:43 <TTHSK> I don't think anyone wants to activate the cruise control
21:32:47 <Schwinn> Well you would have to expect us to be a little upset too
21:32:51 <TTHSK> But there will be questions.
21:33:21 <Ron> I figured you'd be upset
21:33:23 <windupangel> (a bunch of people are just disappointed it ends so fast like this)
21:33:28 <Ron> I feel terrible.
21:33:33 <Ron> I get it.
21:33:45 <Schwinn> So what really happened
21:33:48 <Ron> It seemed that everyone was getting bored with it.
21:33:58 <Addlepated> You know what? I thought it was a really innovative launch.
21:33:59 <TTHSK> I think it's awesome, myself, but I'm rather crazy.
21:33:59 <Ron> What do you mean?
21:34:22 <Schwinn> we werent getting bored we were looking of more puzzles
21:34:31 <Ron> It kind of came together, you know? And that's why I continued with it.
21:34:51 <Schwinn> More frustrated then bored
21:34:53 <TTHSK> Hmm
21:35:02 <TTHSK> Were the word .TMP files deliberate?
21:35:13 <Ron> I thought that the puzzles needed a reason. I didn't want puzzles for the sake of puzzles.
21:35:17 <Ron> Yes.
21:35:29 <TTHSK> The photothumb thing?
21:35:42 <Schwinn> SO is the reall Brian Bricker going to receive a ticket in the mail?
21:35:50 <Ron> Unfortunately yes.
21:35:57 <Ron> He actually is real.
21:36:15 <Schwinn> And he doesn;t know any of this happened
21:36:17 <Ron> the photothumb was an oversite.
21:36:23 <Ron> No.
21:36:32 <Ron> I don't know what I'm going to do.
21:36:50 <Schwinn> I would call him and apologize ASAP
21:37:08 <TTHSK> The only way to save your ass would be getting rid of the unfiction thread and other references strewn about, and any caches available online
21:37:12 <TTHSK> aaand that's unlikely
21:37:14 <Schwinn> cause he is probably going to find out and not be to happy
21:37:15 <Ron> I don't have his current number. And I'm not sure I want to show up at his door.
21:37:35 <Ron> "Hi man, I just kind of screwed your book!"
21:38:07 <Ron> Please don't feel that I wasted your time. That's been my big fear with you guys.
21:38:18 <Addlepated> or you just provided an ARG campaign for it for $100 Wink
21:38:32 <Schwinn> Hopfully he will see that a bunch of us enjoyed his book and your ARG
21:38:35 <TTHSK> It was fun
21:38:57 <Schwinn> I truly enjoyed it by the way
21:39:20 <Schwinn> SHit so you were "ERIC" too
21:39:31 <Ron> Thanks. I'm glad that you liked it too.
21:39:38 <Ron> Sadly.
21:39:40 <Schwinn> I felt bad for getting him fired
21:39:50 * Schwinn slaps Ron around a bit with a large trout
21:39:53 <Ron> I tried to point it away from you,
21:40:16 <TTHSK> Can you tell us what would have happened if it had reached the end?
21:40:18 <Ron> You guys figured out that I needed to differentiate between Brickers.
21:40:33 <TTHSK> Without revealing more of Bricker's story, I guess
21:40:37 <Schwinn> So was the whole thing just you?
21:40:52 <Ron> Honestly? I'm not totally sure. There were a couple of angles to go.
21:41:29 <Ron> I don't actually have much more of Bricker's story.
21:41:50 <Ron> There are some note files -- that's where I got the Oracle and Rage meeting stuff.
21:41:55 <Ron> No real conclusion though.
21:42:06 <Ron> And I still don't know who the One was.
21:42:29 <Ron> Yes. All me.
21:42:47 <Schwinn> Damn did you ever get to sleep
21:42:53 <Ron> No.
21:43:06 <Schwinn> I will say this you did do a very good job
21:43:14 <Addlepated> were you theblindgod also?
21:43:19 <Ron> No.
21:43:25 <TTHSK> DaleoftheBay?
21:43:33 <Ron> There were a lot of one-off posters that I wasn't.
21:43:35 <Ron> No.
21:43:44 <Addlepated> and not the Kade person
21:43:45 <Ron> Other than the first post I tried to abide by the rules.
21:43:58 <Ron> Kade totally blindsided everything.
21:44:08 <TTHSK> Kade's crazy
21:44:09 <Ron> I had never even heard of all of that stuff before.
21:44:11 <Schwinn> Ok What about this whole Kade/ Dreams end Cluster F
21:44:14 <windupangel> so you actually put out the flyer - and Daleofthebay found it?
21:44:24 <Schwinn> Never mind
21:44:26 <TTHSK> The DaleOfTheBay was the edited flyer, aaand it matched the photothumb image size
21:44:38 <TTHSK> aaaand filename
21:44:49 <windupangel> ah
21:44:57 <Ron> I actually did create and put out the altered flyers.
21:45:01 <TTHSK> from memory, anyway
21:45:06 <Ron> All in Union Square.
21:46:34 <Schwinn> If it werent for the Kade/DE stuff it would have been more enjoyeble, not that I didn't enjoy what we had been through so far
21:47:33 <Schwinn> that really messed up alot of people and caused a lot of confusion
21:47:43 <Ron> It confused me!
21:47:47 <TTHSK> How'd you end up with Bricker's stuff? You were friends to an extent? (sorry to pry, but it kind of only half makes sense right now)
21:47:55 <windupangel> and the book sent to wulf?
21:48:14 <Ron> I was trying to make King more real.
21:48:30 <Ron> And I seriously have two boxes of Brian's stuff.
21:48:34 <windupangel> cool prop
21:48:47 <Ron> When he moved back from Oklahoma he needed some storage space.
21:49:00 <Schwinn> I loved the watership down references
21:49:02 <TTHSK> The ring was probably the kicker for me
21:49:09 <windupangel> is the ticket real, or was that a prop you made?
21:49:09 <Ron> I actually have his mom's ashes. Couldn't work those into the story though.
21:49:20 <Ron> Was real.
21:49:20 <TTHSK> O_o
21:49:23 <Schwinn> ewww
21:49:44 <Ron> Would've really been in bad taste -- especially considering the current situation.
21:50:06 <Schwinn> OK is diana madden really dead?
21:50:08 <Ron> I like watership down, too. I wanted to use that more,
21:50:09 *** tempestdevil (TempestSPLATchat-solu-DCB7F298.fai.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net) has joined the channel
21:50:14 <windupangel> obviously
21:50:22 <Schwinn> Hiya Tempest
21:50:27 <windupangel> hi TD
21:50:44 <Schwinn> Getting a full house tonight
21:50:52 <TTHSK> 'tis not surprising
21:51:05 <Addlepated> Ron, can you give us any assurance that you're not really Brian Bricker and this was to promote your own book?
21:51:07 <Ron> Yes. She's definitely dead.
21:51:34 <TTHSK> Hmm
21:51:52 <Schwinn> Oh so that definatly will not sit well with the real BB
21:51:53 <TTHSK> Was the novel all originally in one file?
21:51:54 <Ron> You have what I have of the book. And if I was promoting a half-written, unpublished book...I'd be kind of dumb,
21:52:22 <Ron> the book was in numerous files. Some rewrites...some chapters.
21:52:43 <Addlepated> True, unless the book is actually finished
21:53:11 <windupangel> I think Addlepated is asking how we are supposed to trust you...
21:53:11 <Ron> I have no way to assure you. I think it will be pretty obvious when he gets that ticket though.
21:53:18 <Schwinn> Damn I was hoping to read the whole thing or at least print out the whole thing and bind it with Classi's cover
21:53:19 <windupangel> like "boy who cried wolf" thing
21:53:24 <Ron> I don't expect anyone to trust me.
21:53:27 <Ron> Honestly.
21:53:29 <TTHSK> Me too, schwinn
21:53:52 <Addlepated> I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but you have to admit there were a lot of meta swerves that make just about anything at this point hard to take at face value
21:54:17 <Ron> I hear you. A lot of synchronicity as it were.
21:54:21 <Ron> Like this...
21:54:38 <Schwinn> maybe I'll print the thread and the chat logs too and make this whole story
21:54:46 <Addlepated> I lurked through the entirety of the game, at first because I liked the launch concept but then later because of Kade implicating Dave Szulborski
21:54:56 <Ron> I had set the date at 09/09/09 and was digging through Brian's stuff and saw that the letter from Carter was dated Sept. 9
21:54:56 <TTHSK> Too much has been removed for the game (or at least the same game) to still be on; and there's probably not much point in lying.
21:55:03 <Ron> it was perfect...but not planned.
21:56:00 <Ron> Yeah, I don't know where Kade got anything. I had never even heard of Matheny either.
21:56:37 <Addlepated> it's always funny what synchronicity pops up with you're running a game
21:56:49 <TTHSK> argh I hate that word
21:56:54 <Ron> I had never run one.
21:56:56 <Addlepated> game? Wink
21:57:05 <TTHSK> no, synchronicity
21:57:08 <TTHSK> coincidence is a lot nicer
21:57:13 <tempestdevil> good song.
21:57:15 <tempestdevil> >_>
21:57:45 <TTHSK> also my hand is a little twitchy on the enter key sometimes, <_<
21:58:00 <Schwinn> Were you getting any help while doing this
21:58:06 <Ron> No.
21:58:13 <Ron> Just from those trying to derail you guys.
21:58:17 <Schwinn> <_<
21:58:37 <TTHSK> Speaking of which, what sort of actual gamejacking/nonsense went on? Any?
21:58:38 <Schwinn> Well they derailed us quite well several times
21:58:44 <windupangel> so the "ARG students from California to New Jersey..."
21:58:52 <windupangel> ?
21:58:58 <tempestdevil> what if you're the gamejacker though?
21:59:10 <Ron> I just felt really bad when people wanted to quit.
21:59:25 <Ron> If I was the gamejacker how would I have shut everything down?
21:59:36 <TTHSK> By being a really good hacker, basically
21:59:46 <tempestdevil> your job is to tend to websites.
21:59:57 <windupangel> (Ron made everybody paranoid)
22:00:00 <Ron> But, what would be the benefit of what I'm doing now?
22:00:01 <tempestdevil> if you know the right things to do it's almost painfully easy to break into accounts on sites like blogspot.
22:00:21 <tempestdevil> especially if Bricker is the PM
22:00:23 <tempestdevil> and you're the gamejack.
22:00:24 <TTHSK> Mess with our heads, some people like to do that sort of thing
22:00:26 <tempestdevil> you had access to his PC
22:00:27 <tempestdevil> and his site
22:00:30 <tempestdevil> you could easily have his passwords.
22:00:34 <TTHSK> Anyway,
22:00:36 <Schwinn> brb
22:00:40 <Ron> wow.
22:00:46 <Munki> What the fuck am I missing!
22:00:56 <TTHSK> what were the endings you were thinking up?
22:00:57 <Munki> We get a rush and ron is here dammit!
22:01:07 <Ron> I never meant to instill any paranoia.
22:01:10 <TTHSK> 'tis how the world works
22:01:18 <tempestdevil> with all the meta you threw at us, you should have forseen this. Razz
22:01:25 <TTHSK> The heaps of meta and themes of the game did it, I think
22:01:34 <Ron> I get it.
22:01:38 <tempestdevil> the entire game just seems a bit too well thought out to be an on-the-spot by a shafted webmaster.
22:01:43 <TTHSK> also the close adherence to TINAG
22:01:58 <TTHSK> close and convoluted
22:02:03 <Ron> Okay, what exactly does TINAG mean (besides the obvious).
22:02:16 <TTHSK> not admitting it's a game, ever?
22:02:22 <TTHSK> well
22:02:22 <TTHSK> until it's over
22:02:22 <TTHSK> and not from inside the game
22:02:31 <Addlepated> TINAG = the characters never admit they're characters
22:02:35 <TTHSK> as far as I can tell, anyway
22:02:35 <tempestdevil> if it were anyone else supposedly running the game and then you came out and said it was you all along, it might be a bit more believable.. but someone who previously had complete access to anything Bricker did, comes across as somewhat of a gamejack.
22:02:44 <Schwinn> Munki Munki Munki Munki Munki Munki Munki Munki I missed you
22:02:45 <TTHSK> also, not knowing who is running it helps
22:02:55 <Ron> I get it.
22:03:15 <tempestdevil> like, if you were Larry the Grocery Clerk from Virginia, we'd be like "oh, makes sense, if he took everything down he must be running it"
22:03:15 <Ron> So to what purpose would I jack this game?
22:03:25 <tempestdevil> to what purpose would you create it?
22:03:38 <Ron> It was a challenge.
22:03:41 <windupangel> @everybody - we'll know for sure when BB gets the ticket in the mail
22:03:59 <tempestdevil> unless this is BB we're talking to right now
22:04:01 <tempestdevil> think about it.
22:04:06 <TTHSK> Yar, I want to know about the endings, not about whether Ron's a gamejack
22:04:11 <tempestdevil> we essentially gave up. we were told contacting the writer was our last option, and we did it.
22:04:22 * TTHSK doesn't care; also, I wanted to force a lose condition
22:04:30 <tempestdevil> that's my point though.
22:04:40 <tempestdevil> we forced a losing condition, it would only make sense for the game to pack up as though it were done.
22:04:47 <Ron> So you all weren't in agreement on that?
22:04:51 <TTHSK> I meant the "Lenny wins" condition
22:04:52 <Addlepated> But the way it was put across, contacting the writer sounded more like an imperative, not a caution
22:05:08 <tempestdevil> i dunno
22:05:08 <TTHSK> heck, I'm on IRC from au, which means most people's early morning
22:05:12 <tempestdevil> we were told contacting the writer would completely change the game.
22:05:12 <TTHSK> so, I don't babble in most discussions
22:05:14 <tempestdevil> which, so far, it has.
22:05:16 <Addlepated> to me it sounded like it would open the door on a new, exciting chapter
22:05:20 <Addlepated> right
22:05:29 <tempestdevil> and we might just be in the eye of the storm.
22:05:36 <Ron> wow.
22:05:39 <tempestdevil> that's the problem, we've been fed so much meta it's kind of hard to believe this.
22:05:58 <Ron> The boy who cried wolf. I get it now.
22:06:01 <Addlepated> Ron, if you haven't, you might look into reading some of Jane McGonigal's stuff on game boundaries
22:06:05 <windupangel> basically, it was wulf, classical, and me - and we decided that 1) classical had promised to return the ticket and she wanted to keep that promise
22:06:26 <windupangel> &2) we would have to contact the writer eventually ("IG") anyway
22:06:31 <windupangel> so just get it over with
22:06:32 <tempestdevil> i didn't care what we did either way, i was losing interest in the circles we were running
22:06:42 <Ron> exactly!
22:06:49 <tempestdevil> but to me, it seemed like we were told contacting the writer was our last ditch effort, and it would change the game completely
22:06:54 <tempestdevil> and we did, and it has.
22:07:04 <Ron> interesting.
22:07:07 <windupangel> uh, yeah
22:07:27 <Ron> More syn...uh...coincidence perhaps?
22:07:59 <TTHSK> Did you just get the money today?
22:08:10 <Ron> A couple of days ago.
22:08:17 <TTHSK> That's really nasty timing
22:08:17 <Addlepated> http://avantgame.com/writings.htm - check out A Real Little Game and the section about suspension of disbelief Smile
22:08:42 <Addlepated> it's pretty coincidental timing, considering the ticket is just set to arrive, though - see our dilemma?
22:08:58 <Ron> I see.
22:09:09 <Ron> I'm starting to get paranoid.
22:09:12 <Addlepated> lol
22:09:22 <tempestdevil> addle sees where i'm coming from.
22:09:34 <tempestdevil> After all this supposed in game gamejacking and stuff, it's very hard to take this at face value.
22:10:06 <TTHSK> I'm probably more crazy for not being paranoid, but still
22:10:18 <Addlepated> all the players have suspended disbelief for so long, we are not sure how to reinstitute belief
22:10:30 <Addlepated> or where to apply it
22:10:32 <TTHSK> Did anything go really awry while you were running it?
22:10:57 <Ron> It all did. I was always only one step ahead.
22:11:24 <tempestdevil> TTHSK: i assume, if we are to believe Ron's story, that the entire Kade gamejack was OOG
22:11:46 <TTHSK> apart from kade, I meant
22:11:48 <Ron> Right. I can gaurantee that conspiracy theories are not my thing.
22:11:48 <tempestdevil> more and more i'm starting to think anyway, even if we don't believe him, that it was OOG. we haven't seen nor heard from Kade since then about the game.
22:12:04 <Ron> He even threatened to ruin this game.
22:12:15 <windupangel> he did?
22:12:19 <Ron> So I tried to keep everyone way away from his direction.
22:12:28 <Ron> One of his DreamsEnd posts.
22:12:37 <tempestdevil> he did so to us directly too, but in his roundabout mindfuck way of speaking.
22:12:46 <windupangel> so, what exactly prompted you to pull the plug tonight?
22:12:48 <tempestdevil> he basically told us to get out of the game now because he was trying to bring it down
22:13:21 <tempestdevil> it's mostly this game in particular. If a plug pull like this had happened on any other game, it would be pretty much accepted right away
22:13:28 <tempestdevil> but this game has been skirting the line between reality and game so much..
22:13:36 <tempestdevil> something like this doesn't really seem out of bounds for it
22:14:01 <tempestdevil> we've already had one contact, "Eric", that was acting OOG when he was really IG, if what you say is true.
22:14:14 <tempestdevil> since Eric told us he was fired from his job for giving us too much info, when if it's just you running the game, I doubt he had a job.
22:14:32 <Ron> You guys are too good.
22:14:38 <tempestdevil> this is where disbelief is spawning from
22:14:47 <tempestdevil> too much OOG-seeming IG stuff has already happened
22:15:03 <tempestdevil> you've trained us too well over this last month, now it's hard to believe. Razz
22:15:18 <Ron> That's not a bad thing actually.
22:15:52 <Ron> Skepticism is good.
22:16:01 <Ron> Paranoia...not so much.
22:16:18 <Schwinn> Windup askes a very good question, What made you pull the plug tonight?
22:16:32 <Ron> Because you contacted the writer.
22:16:41 <Ron> And that changes everything.
22:16:41 <windupangel> that's it?
22:16:53 <tempestdevil> that's the point i was trying to make.
22:17:00 <Ron> That's it???
22:17:07 <tempestdevil> we contacted the writer, everything changed. Exactly as we were told would happen, IG.
22:17:20 <Ron> I love you guys.
22:17:39 <tempestdevil> i'm not afraid to admit that i'm potentially way off base
22:17:54 <tempestdevil> but that is my belief right now, that we're just being fed more meta and led down another winding tunnel in the rabbit hole.
22:17:57 <Schwinn> If you dint me asking how old are you Ron?
22:18:09 <Schwinn> don't^*
22:18:10 <Ron> 41.
22:18:23 <tempestdevil> however, i'll cave, because i do want some answers too. If you were running this whole thing and it's now over, can I ask why all the Donnie Darko and Watership Down references? any particular reason?
22:18:24 <Ron> And tempest, you are one smart cookie.
22:18:35 <Schwinn> Hey another older timer like me
22:18:39 <tempestdevil> Are you saying I'm right, or just praising me? ;P
22:18:54 <Ron> Both.
22:19:09 <tempestdevil> oooh
22:19:18 <Ron> We start again when Bricker gets the ticket. Enjoy your weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:39 pm
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I officially give up
META

IF any of what he said in his letter to syntactic is true - then this Ron dude is in serious violation for copyright law. Whether BB has legally copy written this or not - he has the "poor man's copyright" in place, by his electronic signature (his name), titling and dating the manuscript and it's variations.

It also appears that he has used real personal data for people that are not even aware that they are IG, or that a game even exists. We know this because sleuthing turned up too much data from too far back in too many legally controlled situations to disprove it all being personal and (what should be) confidential information on living people.

My biggest problem with this chat is that he seems to feel he has been rewarded for flouting uF rules, legally dangerous actions and now I am very not happy that he has any personal information about me.

My company has been stiffed for over $22k in total by a client over the past 7 months, and I would NEVER stoop this kind of childish and dangerous bull crap. Do things legally. Do you realize that if any of this is true, Ron's damn right this will "change everything", because BB just paid an EXTORTION fee. Personal information put out to force someone into paying is BLACKMAIL, whether the target of the blackmail knows the information is being put out there or not.

At best - the only thing that Ron could do by keeping this game going is to get publicity for Brian's book that isn't ready for publishing yet. There is no way to tell what is true and what is false at this point. Too many f'd up attempts at crying wolf (not you Wulf), that the game is over/continuing/changing/whatever....

At this point, I officially give up on trying to "play" this game. Oh - I may follow posts by members of uF WITHIN uF for amusement, but this is just too much BS for me to handle. I will be reading to watch the intelligent and so often humorous META, and the "game" and all of its schizophrenia is inconsequential.

[Edited because I spell even worse when I'm ethically offended. Razz)
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Allow me to try and clear something up, because I don't want to see anyone leave the game now that it's hopefully going to be getting somewhere. Pretty much everything about the email syn got was fabricated, as far as we can tell. "Ron" pretty much confirmed that near the end of the chat.

He says the game is on again when Bricker gets the ticket, which can only mean 2 things. Either Bricker is our PM, or Bricker has hired our PM. Either way, he is involved in this, otherwise him receiving the ticket would spell the end of our game, not the next step. Regardless of his lack of background with fiction writing, Bricker is an author all the same, and it stands to reason that if he didn't allow his writing to be used, he'd be on the horn with a lawyer the second he found out it was being used. Couple that with the fact that his site has been a breeding ground for most of our clues, seems to point that he is certainly a part of this game. Granted, the act of "disgruntled Ron" had access to Bricker's site, but that was months ago. If Bricker terminated their contract out of anger from his book being read, it also stands to reason he would change the password used to access his site and revoke Ron's access.

Long story short, we discussed this a bit in IRC, I'm of the firm belief this whole thing was to try and snap interest back into the game. Nothing illegal is going on, although some uF rules have certainly been broken, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as the email tried to have us believe.

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Tempestdevil wrote:
I'm of the firm belief this whole thing was to try and snap interest back into the game. Nothing illegal is going on, although some uF rules have certainly been broken, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as the email tried to have us believe.


Agreed. After reading the transcript - wow - it kinda throws everything into another mess. But. Like temptest mentioned - being the "smart cookie" he is - the game is back on.

I seriously doubt anything illegal is going on here, but what I can say for sure, is that whomever is running this, has truly re-invented ARG's. We've all been dizzy since day one, mostly because of the meta, backstory, and even Kade. But if we look at the direct interactions with the characters - it's even more puzzling. The package I received wasn't from them? Eric being fired? The students across the nation. These guys have been trying to convince us from the beginning that TINAG, but it is, but then it's not.

Come Hell or high water, I'm sticking this one out. I hate to admit it, but I've all but abandoned the other ARG's I was playing/lurking - because this one requires my full attention.

Well done. Worshippy
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I checked this thread just in case, presuming not much had happened.

It's weird how everything up to the last few sentences in the chat, points to the idea that the game is over.
I don't know. Like a lot of people. But I think that Ron D. is IG too.
If this is the start of chapter 2, I'm very curious where it may lead us.

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I am a freelance web designer and tech-dude and I spent a year or so contracting for a writer named Brian Bricker to keep up his website.

If Ron is a web designer, he had a pretty easy job with Brickers site. It looks really simple and from the 90's. That site tells me "outdated" and "amateurism". Not "a web designer that spends a year on that site".

Why did he still e-mail with an IG e-mail address, even if the game should be over?

If Ron only got the book from Brian, then he should consider a career as a writer himself. I believe the blogs and character interaction are not written by someone that never does that.
How do other people feel about that? Are there any obvious differences in writing style? Or is it all just as well written as the Manuscript?

Worshippy Interest meter suddenly got filled up. What a coincidence.

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Yo-L wrote:

Worshippy Interest meter suddenly got filled up. What a coincidence.


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Eh, Ron was fishy from the start. When he came into the IRC he was acting like, in general, a clueless schmuck, which didn't quite fit in with his whole "freelance website designer" thing. I think he planned to string his little game out a bit longer, but I backed him into a corner with questions.

Also, wulf, I'm going to PM you something that was discussed in IRC earlier. windup and grady discovered it, but I don't know if we're meant to make it public yet. It's about your package, if you know what I mean.

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windup discovered it - i just asked a nagging question or two about it
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Grady Martin wrote:
windup discovered it - i just asked a nagging question or two about it


All of them were good questions, and with the exception of one of them, I've wondered as well. I thought I had mentioned it to some point, but maybe it was to a friend...?

Anyway, for all those that are curious, 1)I was asked about the package I received - the fact that the stamps on it were not canceled/stamped by the post office. 2) If I had "sent" it to myself, and 3) if I'm also working behind the curtain. All fair questions, and I took offense to none of them. The answer to 2 and 3 are adamantly No.

#1 as I explained in my reply to TempestDevil - is something I've wondered about since the day I got it. As the pictures show, the stamps weren't canceled by the post office. In the neighborhood I live in, the community doesn't like mailboxes in front of everyone's houses, so we have a bank of them, much like an apartment complex. So, in my case, it wouldn't have been possible to hand deliver it and just drop it in the box. So that really only left 2 possibilities. On very rare occasions, I've gotten mail that wasn't canceled by the Post Office. But that's very very rare, and I would think a package of this size would have been for sure. Possibility #2 - is that they met the mailman when he was delivering and he dropped it in the box for them. But I would suggest that's even more unlikely than it being missed by the Post Office.

End result? No clue what happened. But I promise, I'm not IG/behind the curtain/involved anymore than anyone else that's been losing sleep, and getting headaches from this thing.. lol
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The Brightman Oracle blog has been updated with the attached image, whereas the Hazeltine blog has been updated with this poem by a "Charlie". Upon further research, it's a poem called "Risk" by an unknown author. Huh.

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To laugh is to risk appearing the fool
To weep is to risk appearing sentimental
To expose feelings is to risk exposing your true self
To reach out to another is to risk involvement
To place your ideas, your dreams before a crowd is to risk their loss
To love is to risk not being loved in return
To live is to risk dying
To hope is to risk despair
To try is to risk failure.
But risks must be taken
because the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing
The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, and is nothing.
They may avoid suffering and sorrow
but they cannot learn, feel, change, grow, love, live.
Chained in by their attitudes, they are a slave,
they have forfeited their freedom
Only the person who risks is free.


The blog has been relabeled as 'Locomotive Breath' and has a new image for the profile... don't recognize it, though. Likely to be of Jethro Tull, ie th guy who sang Locomotive Breath.

And no phone calls as of yet, guys!
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classical wrote:
The Brightman Oracle blog has been updated with the attached image, whereas the Hazeltine blog has been updated with this poem by a "Charlie". Upon further research, it's a poem called "Risk" by an unknown author. Huh.

Quote:
To laugh is to risk appearing the fool
To weep is to risk appearing sentimental
To expose feelings is to risk exposing your true self
To reach out to another is to risk involvement
To place your ideas, your dreams before a crowd is to risk their loss
To love is to risk not being loved in return
To live is to risk dying
To hope is to risk despair
To try is to risk failure.
But risks must be taken
because the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing
The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, and is nothing.
They may avoid suffering and sorrow
but they cannot learn, feel, change, grow, love, live.
Chained in by their attitudes, they are a slave,
they have forfeited their freedom
Only the person who risks is free.


The blog has been relabeled as 'Locomotive Breath' and has a new image for the profile... don't recognize it, though. Likely to be of Jethro Tull, ie th guy who sang Locomotive Breath.

And no phone calls as of yet, guys!


To risk I believe is by "William Arthur Ward"
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:William_Arthur_Ward

And the image is "Ian Anderson" lead singer and founding member of Jethro Tull.
Score one for the old guy!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbBxxML6iM
"Locomotive Breath"

In the shuffling madness
Of the locomotive breath,
Runs the all-time loser,
Headlong to his death.
He feels the piston scraping --
Steam breaking on his brow --
Thank God, he stole the handle and
The train won't stop going --
No way to slow down.
He sees his children jumping off
At the stations -- one by one.
His woman and his best friend --
In bed and having fun.
He's crawling down the corridor
On his hands and knees --
Old Charlie stole the handle and
The train won't stop going --
No way to slow down.
He hears the silence howling --
Catches angels as they fall.
And the all-time winner
Has got him by the balls.
He picks up Gideon's Bible --
Open at page one --
God stole the handle and
The train won't stop going --
No way to slow down.

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http://www.appleseeds.org/to-risk_WAW.htm

the poem as posted at hazeltine is missing a few lines at the end:

The pessimist complains about the wind;

The optimist expects it to change;

And the realist adjusts the sails."

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...and the brightman oracle blog doesn't have the tiger photo
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