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The Mirror
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Global Security Alliance huge complicated high budget, MAYBE ARG? Hi! This link was found by Kristi in the Xenovaradox thread. Not sure if it goes there, though, or if it's its own thing. It might be a complicated virtual art installation. I feel like there's stuff hidden in those sound files, though...
http://www.global-security-alliance.com/
It's just HUGE.
These vids are also on the GSA webpage, but to get there more easily:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJU-f2YwZIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1C0im6D8k
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:57 pm
kosmopol
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It looks great, but I think, it is real.
Kind of activist group propaganding New Security Culture .
e.g.: http://info.interactivist.net/node/11051
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:26 pm
The Mirror
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maybe, but some of that stuff was very extreme, and very theatrical. That main guy in the video is acting,I'm almost positive.
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:49 pm
BubbleBoy
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WhoIs tells me that the site is registered to these guys:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_New_Culture_Technologies
wikipedia wrote:
an international competence platform for the critical use of information and communication technologies. Investigating the key issues of information societies, the multidisciplinary approach creates a network for research and mediation dealing with the profound change in the information sphere. Thus, the institute sees the networked exchange of knowledge and the free access to information and educational resources as important prerequisites for the future of democracy, culture and society.
Sounds like a company that would put on an ARG.
And as far as your "acting" hunch is concerned...
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From: http://www.nabble.com/%22Systems-Panic%22-Days-td19816601.html
"This isn't the first time I've participated in the events of the Global Security Alliance. Previously I spoke under the fictional name of Frank Beauregard "
The dude, Brian Holmes, appears to be an activist. Dunno what that means for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:20 pm
kosmopol
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BubbleBoy wrote:
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From: http://www.nabble.com/%22Systems-Panic%22-Days-td19816601.html
"This isn't the first time I've participated in the events of the Global Security Alliance. Previously I spoke under the fictional name of Frank Beauregard "
The dude, Brian Holmes, appears to be an activist. Dunno what that means for this, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Oh, yes, Frank Beauregard! I found his name many times in connection with this Alliance. Perhaps are they kind of artist activists like NN (Netochka Nezvanova), who also had very ARGish appearance, since nobody knew long time, who she
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(or rather he)
was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netochka_Nezvanova
(Very cool story btw.)
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:52 am
The Mirror
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That sounds about right to me. But WOW this sure does look like a game! I think it ought to be a game, and the artists who made it would probably LOVE ARGS!
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:14 am
Dirt Diver
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GSA is real.
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:01 am
The Mirror
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Hi DirtDiver!
What information did you find that tells you it's real? I'd love to see it! I'm still not sure. Here's their logo- I think even the logo screams TINAG. [/img]
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:07 am
natas
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Don't know if this helps or adds to the confusion....
Here's a partial WHOIS for GSA.
Quote:
Registrant:
Konrad Becker
Lehargasse 11/8
Vienna, Vienna 1060
AT
Domain Name: GLOBAL-SECURITY-ALLIANCE.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Konrad Becker
Institute for New Culture Technologies t
Lehargasse 11/8
Vienna, Vienna 1060
AT
004315221834
004315225058 [fax]
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:09 am
Dirt Diver
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The Mirror wrote:
Hi DirtDiver!
What information did you find that tells you it's real? I'd love to see it! I'm still not sure. Here's their logo- I think even the logo screams TINAG. [/img]
I heard of a company with the name security alliance through my job, I'm pretty sure the first word was global, but I can't remember. I could be wrong though.
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:17 am
The Mirror
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Interesting. There might be a bunch of different 'security alliances' though. If your job is working with this particular one that would be wild!
Thanks Natas!!!
ok, so we found all this security alliance stuff by doing a google search for the text in the psychemoves site that Anarchotelogy found when it was still up. The psychemoves site is pretty definitely related to xenovaradox, right? Is it possible that the PMs just borrowed this Konrad text, not thinking that we'd find the source (just using it as a sort of lorem ipsum)? Or do you think the text source was MEANT to be found, thus linking the Konrad Becker stuff with Xenovaradox?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:39 am
BubbleBoy
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I think what you are seeing are a bunch of activists "role-playing" (as best as I can describe it), not an ARG. I believe you are simply being thrown a web-site not associated with the game, but associated with the story... if that makes any sense.
OOG, that's my vote.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:21 pm
catherwood
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The thing that stands out for me when looking at http://www.global-security-alliance.com/ is that the copyright date on the homepage is 2006, and nothing appears to be any more recent than late 2008.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:29 pm
The Mirror
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Yah, I noticed that too. Bummer, huh? It's SO cool!
So the consensus is that Becker is perhaps affiliated with the zenovaradox game but GSA is a separate project of his?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:40 am
kosmopol
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Or perhaps in another way:
Zenovaradox is a project of GSA? (Since GSA seems to love such viral activities). Perhaps we've just found PMs?..
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:50 am
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