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parth2024
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Re: Encyclopedia
Read IT

ginji wrote:
I will mark this as a spoiler because it may or may not RUIN the whole 4th book, We'll see soon.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Saladin was an Egyptian Sultan, the cat is an Egyptian Mau.
Lucian was a greek PHILOSOPHER who spoke about POWER
Janus was the roman god of opening doors and beginnings
I don't have anything for Tomas Ekaterina.
Napoleon Bonaparte was first to explore Egypt for archeology.


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Napolean Report in Lucian Archives (not much help):
Quote:
29 July 1799

Dear Sirs,

I write with a troubled heart to report on our Dearest Cousin and Most Glorious Leader of France and Europe, Napoleon Bonaparte.

We reached the golden shores of Egypt in July of last year, with a force of 25,000 men. The enemy had a force of 100,000 and I feared our soldiers would be swept back into the sea and drowned. But I should not doubt the Genius and Cunning of a Lucian General such as Napoleon Bonaparte. After vicious fighting in the shadows of the Great Pyramids, our Brilliant Tactics and Brave Soldiers carried the day. Imagine the glory! It was 25,000 against 100,000, and still victory was ours!

And yet, I now worry. Our men have become sick, and our forces have not held up well against attacks from the Ottoman Empire in the West.

And more, I fear lust for battle and victory has caused Bonaparte to forget his True Mission to search Egypt's sands for Clues buried by Katherine Cahill.

It is true that Napoleon has brought much Honor to the Lucians. But it may be time to remind him who is Master and who is Servant.



Humbly,

Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier


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Re: Encyclopedia
Read IT

parth2024 wrote:
ginji wrote:
I will mark this as a spoiler because it may or may not RUIN the whole 4th book, We'll see soon.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Saladin was an Egyptian Sultan, the cat is an Egyptian Mau.
Lucian was a greek PHILOSOPHER who spoke about POWER
Janus was the roman god of opening doors and beginnings
I don't have anything for Tomas Ekaterina.
Napoleon Bonaparte was first to explore Egypt for archeology.


More to come soon.
Any Questions, Just Ask!


Napolean Report in Lucian Archives (not much help):
Quote:
29 July 1799

Dear Sirs,

I write with a troubled heart to report on our Dearest Cousin and Most Glorious Leader of France and Europe, Napoleon Bonaparte.

We reached the golden shores of Egypt in July of last year, with a force of 25,000 men. The enemy had a force of 100,000 and I feared our soldiers would be swept back into the sea and drowned. But I should not doubt the Genius and Cunning of a Lucian General such as Napoleon Bonaparte. After vicious fighting in the shadows of the Great Pyramids, our Brilliant Tactics and Brave Soldiers carried the day. Imagine the glory! It was 25,000 against 100,000, and still victory was ours!

And yet, I now worry. Our men have become sick, and our forces have not held up well against attacks from the Ottoman Empire in the West.

And more, I fear lust for battle and victory has caused Bonaparte to forget his True Mission to search Egypt's sands for Clues buried by Katherine Cahill.

It is true that Napoleon has brought much Honor to the Lucians. But it may be time to remind him who is Master and who is Servant.



Humbly,

Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier

The guy who wrote that letter was educated by the Benedictines, the monks in OFN. That's a weird coincidence.

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book 4

just 13 days, 16 hours and 35 minutes

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Continue from long post about napolean

I went to Egypt last year and saw the great pyramids and the sphinx, where Napolean supposedably shot the nose off during target practice. the rest of the sphinx was covered in sand. and also some people say that it cursed him and that's why he lost the waterloo.
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Re: book 4

snuibi wrote:
just 13 days, 16 hours and 35 minutes

i dont have enough patience to wait that long.

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Re: book 4

Sherlock_39 wrote:
snuibi wrote:
just

i dont have enough patience to wait that long.

oh is not that long now it's:
13 days, 04 hours and 43 minutes
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
edit
12 days, 17 hours and 42 minutes

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It's been a long time ...

Hi all!! Hi Sapagoo!

School has been hectic -- big sigh, so I had literally no time for extracurricular activities as the forum which does pull time ... but I've missed all of you! and have thought of you often.

In April, our Benjamin Franklin School Cool , (me - lol) finally got our 39 Clues Club up and running! Yay!! If you all still would like our Book 1 camera codes, I just need to make sure which ones have not yet been used -- and who of my kids still need them -- and I'll get these up shortly.

I was able to meet Peter Lerangis twice when he was out visiting Southern CA, which was quite fun and really neat. I need to go back over my notes -- when he did his formal presentation to see if I have any insights that could possibly help ... but you guys are all so quick and intuitive -- and just going over the wiki's ... my goodness, the time and effort those of you who have put together all the information about the branches and the main and minor characters ... it does not go unnoticed. Worshippy

Hopefully I can be a bit more helpful come summer.
I have the audio for all 3, and arriving on the 2nd, the 4th books, as my kids read and listen to the audio at the same time. So if I can help in this way, I'll do what I can.

My kids are disadvantaged, so I've been purchasing sets of the books when I can at reasonable prices ... and the cards. A few of them can afford to buy a book (which helps me out a lot ... and if they invest to buy 1 - 4 packs of the trading cards, then I supplement their deck by giving them the rest (except for card 60 <--- they have to pull good grades, no C's to receive this card from me). I haven't even added any physical cards to my account (and I have a full set for me) just in case it will go to some good use to brighten a kid's world.

They are so excited about this club. Because we are a year round school, I was missing 10 of my kids this last month which made the class size ideal, about 15-16 kids, because then every body had their own book. I will only lose 2 kids starting Friday, and we start Book 2 next Tuesday ... I'm still short about 8 books, but thank goodness for Ebay, because I have met some incredible sellers who have made it possible for me to literally support this club since there is no money left. My payment comes from my non-reading kids getting this love and wonderment for reading ... and then if they can pass the Reading Counts quiz come Friday on Book 1, it's worth 11 points which to them is huge, and Book 2 is worth 9 points so this helps them reach small but major milestones.

I hope this note finds you all well. I've been buried in paperwork and am still trying to dig myself out, slowly but surely.

Hugs to all!! ~ Bluedawg

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 Re: Book 5

I also blew up the image of book 5, and to the bottom left of the wooden circle, right above the broken yellowish, orange piece ... there looks like a word is inscribed in the wood (Lucian?, Tomas?) and above that looks like an engraving of a key perhaps? It looks like the word is upside down reading Right to Left. Thoughts?

~ Bd
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Re: Book 5

bluedawg wrote:
I also blew up the image of book 5, and to the bottom left of the wooden circle, right above the broken yellowish, orange piece ... there looks like a word is inscribed in the wood (Lucian?, Tomas?) and above that looks like an engraving of a key perhaps? It looks like the word is upside down reading Right to Left. Thoughts?

~ Bd

Like this? Hard to tell if it's a message, or just an artifact from the png compression.
If I squint, I can see Lucian, Tomas, or even Lorax 13.
The "key" could even be the Eye of Horus.
Edit: wait, this is Book 5, which doesn't focus on Egypt. Hmm.
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 Book 5 and Book 4

Well done! Yes ... I think the "key" could be the hieroglyph "eye of Horus" .. also remember each book has a clue from both the previous and the upcoming.


In Book 4 -- which has the Madrigals all over it ... Beyond the Grave ... perhaps Fiske returns? but ... In the Myst of the M that squiggles over the cover is a picture of a bird in the upper left ... a falcon? (it's by the ear of the golden Bastet -

... taken from wiki ....

"In Egyptian mythology, Bast (also spelled Ubasti, Baset[1], and later Bastet) is an ancient solar and war goddess, worshipped at least since the Second Dynasty. In the late dynasties, the priests of Amun began to call her Bastet, a repetitive and diminutive form after her role in the pantheon became diminished as Sekhmet, a similar lioness war deity, became more dominant in the unified culture of Lower and Upper Egypt. In the Middle Kingdom, the cat appeared as Bastet's sacred animal and after the New Kingdom she was depicted with a woman with a cat's head carrying a sacred rattle and a box or basket.[2]

Bast or Bastet was the cat goddess and local deity of the town of Bubastis or Per-Bast in Egyptian, where her cult was centered.[2] Indeed, her name means (female) devourer.[citation needed] As protector, she was seen as defender of the pharaoh, and consequently of the later chief male deity, Ra, who was a solar deity also, gaining her the titles Lady of Flame and Eye of Ra.

The goddess Bast was sometimes depicted holding a ceremonial sistrum in one hand and an aegis in the other – the aegis usually resembling a collar or gorget embellished with a lioness head.

As divine mother, and more especially as protector, for Lower Egypt, she became strongly associated with Wadjet, the patron goddess of Lower Egypt, eventually becoming Wadjet-Bast, paralleling the similar pair of patron (Nekhbet) and lioness protector (Sekhmet) for Upper Egypt. Bastet was the daughter of Amun Ra."

Grace ?? Hope ?? Amy???

No no no .... I got it .... Saladin!! Very Happy

I have to go ... so if this doesn't seem confusing enough....

And Sapagoo ... you may have something there ...Yes!! Lorax 13!

Very Happy

Cheers!
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I'm sure the eye of horus has something to do with mummifica
n...

Checklist for mummy-making:
Pull out internal organs
Leave in salt
Start wapping bandages
Ah ha here we go:
Start putting protective charms on each layer including...

THE EYE OF HORUS!!!


EDIT: after you pull out their organs, you put them in special jars

Sorry for the edit I just forgot that bit
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Re: I'm sure the eye of horus has something to do with mummifica
n...

BEDOMII wrote:
Checklist for mummy-making:
Pull out internal organs
Leave in salt
Start wapping bandages
Ah ha here we go:
Start putting protective charms on each layer including...

THE EYE OF HORUS!!!


EDIT: after you pull out their organs, you put them in special jars

Sorry for the edit I just forgot that bit

Exactly! Beyond the Grave means doing something with his body, like unwrapping it, after he dies.

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Sherlock_39 wrote:
parth2024 wrote:
Sherlock_39 wrote:
ginji wrote:
Sherlock_39 wrote:
New inbox messages! Looks like Lilya's present was to go to Africa and Victoria falls where I guess a Tomas secret is hidden. Alana Flores tried to get into Neuschwanstein castle's grotto to get at the secrets of King Ludwig and failed. So we know King Ludwig is Janus and there is a clue at his castle and that there is probably a clue at Victoria falls.


Future cards maybe, or a mission...

I think the castle will be a mission. The grotto has stalactites and those are usually made of limestone, so maybe limestone is a clue?


David Livingstone died of a disease. Why does the Tomas message say that he knows that a hungry lion will eat anything?

PS David Livingstone was the discoverer of Victoria Falls, where Lilya is currently heading.

Maybe Livingstone died of being eaten by a lion and the Tomas covered it up. Because if there's one thing I know any Cahill is good at doing, it's hiding things.


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Eye of Horus
Source from wikipedia

According to wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus the eye is an ancient symbol of protection and royal power.

Hmm.... Maybe this "eye" is the symbol of the Madrigals, like the Ekat dragon or the Lucian snakes. It could fit the theory that the madrigals are protectors of the ultimate power and in addition, the 39 clues.

As for royal power, maybe it has some significance but im not sure.

What do you guys think?

P.S: Horus is the god of the sky and was viewed as a falcon. Maybe the eye of Horus is used to symbolize the Madrigals ever watching agents around the world stopping Cahills from finding the clues....

I cannot see any connection between the eye of Horus and another clue yet.

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Book 4 Countdown!!!

Final 10 days to book 4! Very Happy Laughing Very Happy Crying or Very sad Does anyone plan to steal the book before hand from Scholastic (or the local bookstore. They probably have the books now and are just waiting for the release date)???

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