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dishboy
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porridgebrain wrote:
How about this for another way of looking at it:

20 8 5 – 15 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 14 9 12 24
T H E – O I T T I F A N I L X

or

20 8 5 – 14 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 13 9 12 25
T H E – N I T T I F A M I L Y

O to N is 15 to 14 = -1
N to M is 14 to 13 = -1
X to Y is 24 to 25 = +1

So we have the sequence -1 -1 +1

any thoughts? Or is this making absolutely no sense?!

Just found it odd that all the 'wrong' letters were either plus or minus one letter from the original. Makes me think that maybe it's not the letters ONX themselves that are important but where in the alphabet they lie in relation to the original letter.


Execellent observation PB! That was staring us all in the face and I don't recall anyone even mentioning it. I'm convinced that is relevant. Just not sure what to do with it yet.
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dishboy wrote:

Execellent observation PB! That was staring us all in the face and I don't recall anyone even mentioning it. I'm convinced that is relevant. Just not sure what to do with it yet.


No I'm not sure what to do with it either!

HAVE to go to bed now so will have to leave it with you lot to chew on!

Will keep my fingers crossed for some progress by morning.

Night!
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porridgebrain wrote:

Yes I took it to be just another reference to the computer keyboard and it's numeric keypad which we needed to solve the rest of the riddle.


For the record, I think you were right.

There is another issue that is disturbing me. It is related to the first statement on finalis.html:

"then we will begin readying the superconductors at the Ponta Delgada facility. [...]"

What does the word "readying" mean? Does such word exist? (Note: English is not my mother tongue). Or is it another typo?

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porridgebrain wrote:

O to N is 15 to 14 = -1
N to M is 14 to 13 = -1
X to Y is 24 to 25 = +1

So we have the sequence -1 -1 +1

any thoughts? Or is this making absolutely no sense?!

Just found it odd that all the 'wrong' letters were either plus or minus one letter from the original. Makes me think that maybe it's not the letters ONX themselves that are important but where in the alphabet they lie in relation to the original letter.


I just worked that out too! Goddamnit, I never get to be first with anything. ARG Dunno what it means though.

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BigNorse wrote:

I just worked that out too! Goddamnit, I never get to be first with anything. ARG Dunno what it means though.


Awww I'm sorry!! Have been enjoying your #answerstosongtitles on twitter by the way!

oikon7 wrote:
What does the word "readying" mean? Does such word exist? (Note: English is not my mother tongue). Or is it another typo?


Yep it is a word - means "getting ready"!

Ok REALLY going to bed now...
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 		I think I found another typo, unless it has already been posted.

On the finalis page, the second passage reads "...or apocalypse could be upon us"

Shouldn't it be "or the apocalypse" / "or an apocalypse"?

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porridgebrain wrote:

Awww I'm sorry!! Have been enjoying your #answerstosongtitles on twitter by the way!


Heh, thanks, those are too much fun to come up with. Night night, hope the inlaw visit wasn't too stressfull! Wink

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garymaher wrote:
Elize34 wrote:
One last quick thing,
the code was finalis...... maybe the T is missing?
If we add another T, does that form a real word/sentence?


That's a really good point I haven't seen discussed. I tried finalist.html and t.html. Any other ideas?


I looked up 'finalis' and found that it is latin and refers to "end, boundary or limit." Just thought I'd share.

I have yet to hear anything from r33pich33p yet. Sadly...Sad

Steff wrote:
just a thought..
did anyone tried using the numbers in correspondence with the four passages on the finalis.jpg? i think that none of the methods for cracking the numbers included usage of the letters from the text in the same image..


I hadn't thought of that, that reminds me of the puzzle involving the Iliad passages on the 8th spoke site.
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RAD24 wrote:
I think I found another typo, unless it has already been posted.

On the finalis page, the second passage reads "...or apocalypse could be upon us"

Shouldn't it be "or the apocalypse" / "or an apocalypse"?


It depends on whether or not it's used as a proper noun. In this case, it seems to be used as a proper noun, which means it should read Apocalypse. Of course, it's been ages since I've taken a grammar class. lol
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 		I applied the -1 -1 +1 thing across the entire code...

1 -1 9 4 0 6 8 1 1 1 -1 10 5 0 2 3 8 2 1 1 3

Anyone see anything? D:

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 		Hey guys. Just checking in before I head to bed. Haven't received a response from r33pich33p yet, but I will let you know if I do. Have a good night all. Smile Good luck!
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 		We're STILL stuck?!?

Where are you 'LurkyLoo'!? We need you!

Have this awful feeling we're not going to hear anything till Elliott gets back now...
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 		My it's quiet here!

Have posted a summary of where we're at on the blog just in case you need a recap:

http://lostarg.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/stuck/

I hope we get this soon - it's really bugging me!!
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Steff
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porridgebrain wrote:
How about this for another way of looking at it:

20 8 5 – 15 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 14 9 12 24
T H E – O I T T I F A N I L X

or

20 8 5 – 14 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 13 9 12 25
T H E – N I T T I F A M I L Y

O to N is 15 to 14 = -1
N to M is 14 to 13 = -1
X to Y is 24 to 25 = +1

So we have the sequence -1 -1 +1

any thoughts? Or is this making absolutely no sense?!

Just found it odd that all the 'wrong' letters were either plus or minus one letter from the original. Makes me think that maybe it's not the letters ONX themselves that are important but where in the alphabet they lie in relation to the original letter.


yes.. I thought of it at the beginning, too.. i thought that we should take one of the neighboring letters.. the sequence shouldn't necessarily be -1 -1 +1 (since O, N, X are not consecutive letters in the message)..

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Steff wrote:
porridgebrain wrote:
How about this for another way of looking at it:

20 8 5 – 15 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 14 9 12 24
T H E – O I T T I F A N I L X

or

20 8 5 – 14 9 20 20 9 – 6 1 13 9 12 25
T H E – N I T T I F A M I L Y

O to N is 15 to 14 = -1
N to M is 14 to 13 = -1
X to Y is 24 to 25 = +1

So we have the sequence -1 -1 +1

any thoughts? Or is this making absolutely no sense?!

Just found it odd that all the 'wrong' letters were either plus or minus one letter from the original. Makes me think that maybe it's not the letters ONX themselves that are important but where in the alphabet they lie in relation to the original letter.


yes.. I thought of it at the beginning, too.. i thought that we should take one of the neighboring letters.. the sequence shouldn't necessarily be -1 -1 +1 (since O, N, X are not consecutive letters in the message)..


You're right - maybe 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 0 0 +1 would be a better way of looking at it?
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