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[Shirley Films]

Adventurik,

My brain was getting tired from "The Equation" so I picked up the third puzzle last night. Very cool. I am looking forward to it.

I have a question, tho. I was looking at the sliding pieces and noticing the notches in them. All of the notches are on the BOTTOM, but there is one that seems to have 2 notches cut into it. One on the bottom, but also one on the side. That piece of wood looks particularly unstable, with the two cuts. It almost looks like they cut it wrong and then flipped the piece and cut it again.... but maybe this is how its supposed to be.... ?

I figured I would ask. I doubt the place I got it from would do a return on it, regardless. If it is a design flaw... I will just do my best to be careful with it.

[magicrock]

Legend of the King

[Shirley Films]

Cool. Thanks for looking, MagicRock.

I actually was able to open this one pretty easily today. Just some fiddling with it. I didn't even use the pieces from Part 2. Tho I am still curious to see how the pieces line up with the sliders.

Now onto the riddle!

Maybe I will pick up part 4 tomorrow.

[Shirley Films]

Okay new problem/question for anyone interested in helping a newb.

I just got part 4 (The Enigmatic Temple). And I am afraid that I am breaking it, trying to manipulate it.

The parts that seem to be loose (or becoming unglued) are the top (which seems like it was supposed to be slightly loose to begin with) and the small square with the dowel in it. I was twisting it a little... and the glue seems to be losing grip.

Just trying to confirm which parts are supposed to be solid/immobile.

I really don't want to beat this puzzle by accidentally breaking it to pieces.

Thanks for any help.

SF

[Adventurik]

Without giving too much away, it's not coming unglued. I believe
it might be possible to break the little dowel, so don't twist the
top too hard in one direction. In hindsight, it's a rather odd
maneuver to solve a puzzle, but twisting is involved. One of the
pieces in the King Arthur puzzle is a clue.

[Shirley Films]

Cool. Thanks again for the help.

[Shirley Films]

So.

Has anyone solved the password for the third puzzle? I try to look through this forum for answers before being a pest, but I am really worried that I am going to inadvertantly see spoilers (in spite of the roll-over text that most people are nice enough to utilize).

I am not looking for the password, I just want to know if anyone has it. Just about all of the clues make sense to me (I am 99% sure I know what they are hinting at), but I cannot seem to find a word associated with my theory that is successful when submitted at the website.

[Adventurik]

Passwords

[Shirley Films]

Just a thought on the Equation riddle...

If the telescopic vision clue has anything to do with inverted images reflected in the telescope, then perhaps we should be trying all these password ideas we have had over the past few months SPELLED BACKWARDS on the website.

Just an idea. One of many.

Thanks again.

[Adventurik]

That's an interesting idea. Newtonian telescopes are reflecting telescopes and the image in the eyepiece is reversed. It's invention didn't mark the end of refractor scopes, but improved light-gathering, focal length, and resolution. I'll give it a try.

[Shirley Films]

These might have already been mentioned.... but....

Newton's law of universal gravitation was superseded by Einstein's theory of general relativity.

Per Wikipedia (regarding Ellipses):
Planetary orbits
In the 17th century, Johannes Kepler explained that the orbits along which the planets travel around the Sun are ellipses in his first law of planetary motion. Later, Isaac Newton explained this as a corollary of his law of universal gravitation.

Don't know. Just thinking aloud.

[dmb]

Note that the image in a Newtonian isn't reversed (i.e. backward), it's inverted (upside-down).

If anything, this suggests a password that has a vertical axis of symmetry (e.g. s, o, c, E, 8, 0, z, 3), or one where the inverted characters are also valid letters or numbers, e.g. (p -> b, q -> d).

[Adventurik]

[dmb]

Irrespective of how you need to move the scope around, the reversal isn't BOTH horizontal and vertical, it's horizontal only in a Newtonian.

If you wish to view the upper left of the moon in your example, you move the scope to the lower left, not the lower right.

However of course this may all be completely irrelevant, and doesn't detract from your suggestion that the password might be reversed and inverted (or indeed any other way around) .

[Shirley Films]

I asked a physicist friend of mine to look at the two equations that are still in question. I realize that they are probably only there for asthetics, or just because they represent some letters needed for the password, but thought I would share his observations with the group.

"On the right of the image (the photo of the interesecting lines)... it looks like balanced force vectors. T could be a tension vector, W could be a "weight
vector" = m * vec{g}... and Fp... that's strange. Force
from a pressure?

The 4^2 6xP_4 is blowing me away. I've never seen something
like this because it's not an equation, and as an
expression, doesn't make much sense. The P_4 could mean
that you're looking at the 4th component of whatever P is.
If it's a momentum, I guess it would make sense. When
you're doing relativistic calculations, you usually add time
(1 dimension) to the spacial (3 dimensions) to give you a 4
dimensional vector. The fourth component of P (in the 4-D
momentum case) would really depend on your notation. Could
be the "z-th" spacial component of the momentum... or it
could be the time component of the momentum (which is
related to the energy).

I can't make sense of the 4^2 and 6. Unless you multiply
them all together... 4^2 X 6 = 16 X 6 = 96. But what are
you supposed to do with an expression, if it's not in an
equation to give you some context?"

I don't know if this will help us in our quest, but I thought I would share. My guess is that the password will end up having nothing to do with actual physics.