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Stone
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I'd agree with trying to activate as many axons as we can - it seems reasonable to me that they wouldn't remain 'hot or not' if we were only required to activate 2 from each set of seven. Personally I think [spec] we'll unlock at least one more .wav from each set if we can activate all 7 axons, but that's just my gut instinct. It probably helps that I'm in the UK so I'm not running around after them Very Happy

Besides, like the others said, it's not like we have much else to do at the moment other than mail SP and/or Melissa Wink

Heading slightly OT for a moment, is it not true that the only reason we think of the Pious Flea as a Covenant entity the name? He chooses to call himself 'seeker' and wants to effectively expose the truth without being discovered - could this mean that the truth is something we should be suppressing? (example - potential time-travel paradox). That would make the Princess the one to be wary of - again my gut reaction only as I happen to believe she was contained in the 'mostly-osmium' casket. Probably trout but I'm pretty certain Melissa was in charge of the ship which found the sealed casket, and the contents then escaped.

Additionally, the Flea's

seek
behold
reveal

seems rather too close to 'Seek evade reveal escape' for my comfort...perhaps the flea is an emergency process which has accidentally been triggered and is thus flagged as rogue?

...I don't know if any of this is original or useful, but it's late and I'm tired and waiting for 'pillow' to go hot when you helpful phone people get to it Smile Apologies for any lack of continuity, and I'll go and get the fish-knives out Very Happy

Stone

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Shad0
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Re: OT

SuperJerms wrote:
210 positive interactions? Donning the trusty PM fez...
"I know before I start that we will have a margin of error...could be anywhere from 5-30 phones that don't accept calls, are broken, or are surrounded by prostitutes. Rather than scoping out the site, I will make it so that each group of axons will be answered by at least two people. Once all .wav's are unlocked, not many people will still worry about the phones if the game moves on. This is easier, less work, and keeps the curtain more intact than tweaking locations after we see which phones won't/can't be answered. Besides, I want an exciting game...this requires rewards and challenges that are diverse, and I don't want the game to drag for a week because of three scraggler phones."

Besides, if I am accurately remembering the little I've been able to dredge out of the massive "Axon" threads, at least one of the axons can never go hot, no matter what we do, because the pay phone itself was physically ripped out of the wall and is no longer there. So if the goal is really to hit all 210 axons, we're already censored. (Unless Melissa updates the coordinates yet again, that is.)

Which still doesn't mean we shouldn't try to activate as many as possible.
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Re: OT

Shad0 wrote:
Which still doesn't mean we shouldn't try to activate as many as possible.


I agreed with you up until you said that. Any more axon-poking is probably going to be an exercise in futility, for the reasons that you said yourself up there. We might not even GET calls anymore now that 2/7 has been reached.

We are now most likely playing the waiting game again. It was fun while it lasted. My money's on another update this week from SP and then some more axons next week -- at least, I hope so. If we have to wait 2 more weeks this place is going to get unhinged.

I see now that my original spec was wrong. Oh well, at least it went quick and didn't linger. Wink

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I don't see any harm in picking up a few more phone calls until something new happens.
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I will transmit to my crew daily until further instructions are received.

She might continue calling until the Pious Flea or Sleeping Princess(yeah, I know you all hate me for saying that, but you never know) tells her what to do next. If they are still ringing come Saturday, I might get the 14:05 one.

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Astald wrote:
I don't see any harm in picking up a few more phone calls until something new happens.


I'm sure there's no harm in it, but I doubt it does anything. I'll be surprised if the dialing even continues tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:04 pm
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Hi I'm new here, just registered tonight. I see differing opinions on our X / 777 bar. It makes sense to me that these are not counting axons going hot(math doesn't work) as stated in other posts. It is uncertain what the number means. I personally doubt that we aren't supposed to get to 777. If we arent meant to get it then why is it there and also then what are we waiting for?

I may be wrong here but from the beginning we've had a counter then another counter then times/gps locations. but what are we waiting for right now? It would appear that the site is serving no purpose unless that 777 was signifigant. Right? Whats our next "quest" if you will?

From what I've seen watching the site we really weren't given any new data/information/goals until the countdowns ended and the axons were visited and went hot. Now with the 777 thing we really don't have much solid info to go on. Maybe this is the part of the game where the majority are separated away from the few. Everyone seems to be looking past this part of it right now.

This is the only form of site progress (new stuff/learn more/updates/etc) I can really see right now unless one of these others is right with the thoery of more points to be released. I'm doubtful on that one myself though.

I haven't read any halo books etc. I don't know all the characters and what have you. I really have just been following the ILB website and this forum.

But from what I have gathered on the error 404 page (take a look) is that whoever is writing in the green font wants to play a game of question and answer. Whoever it is wants us to email a vote for whose questions we want answered. Send name in subject line etc.

My theory here is not founded on anything solid at all but from only ILB stuff I would guess that the 777 could be a vote counter of total "vote emails" recieved at the ladybee777@hotmail address listed on the contact us pages. To try to test my theory I sent my own email with "Dorkmaster" in the subject line last night when it was at 103/777. When I checked earlier today it was at 111/777 and 116/777 as I type this. I'm curious to see if this is actually the "what for?" behind our 777 count-up.

The X/777 is in code meaning not an actual counter or applet or javascript etc. It does not change itself. Cut from actual html of the page:
<div align="center">116/777</div>
I view it as highly possible for a real person to actually count those email votes and then manually update this number as they get more votes. It does not go in realtime if my theory is correct. Which is explained by the fact that it updated by several numbers higher instead of one at a time. It also didn't update when I refreshed the page right after sending the email like it would if it were a realtime counter. I guess that alone neither proves or disproves that the emails are tied to the count-up. It would be nice if there were a way for people who email to cc it to another adress where someone else can count and post how many new messages came in and see if it updates by the same number but coordination of that would be amazingly difficult. Oh well, just another thought.

Like I said I'm new here, sorry if I've wasted your time reading this. Just my theorys. What do ya'll think?


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the 116/777 is the # of axons we activated.

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Re: OT

Shad0 wrote:
Besides, if I am accurately remembering the little I've been able to dredge out of the massive "Axon" threads, at least one of the axons can never go hot, no matter what we do, because the pay phone itself was physically ripped out of the wall and is no longer there. So if the goal is really to hit all 210 axons, we're already censored. (Unless Melissa updates the coordinates yet again, that is.)

Which still doesn't mean we shouldn't try to activate as many as possible.



I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115, the PM's have our backs and added the cancelled Axon( phone ripped out) to give us the current total of 116. So it is still possible to hit all 210. I think as the PM's realize that we can not answer a phone more Axon's will be cancelled as well.

Hope this helps,

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Re: OT

Another_Chooch wrote:

I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115


I get 116 when I do a find through the HTML source. I don't think the AXON ERROR is counted in the 777 progress.

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Re: OT

GunsmithCat wrote:
Another_Chooch wrote:

I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115


I get 116 when I do a find through the HTML source. I don't think the AXON ERROR is counted in the 777 progress.


I stand corrected, I should have counted the 3rd, it's too early, mind ain't working to good. Screwy

but good catch GunsmithCat!!

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Re: OT

Another_Chooch wrote:
I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115, the PM's have our backs and added the cancelled Axon( phone ripped out) to give us the current total of 116. So it is still possible to hit all 210. I think as the PM's realize that we can not answer a phone more Axon's will be cancelled as well.

Something just occurred to me, that doesn't really make sense.

Melissa's trying to reach her crew, according to the text on about.html.

Melissa's ship had a crew of only 40, according to the MAYDAY text.

Melissa is transmitting to seven groups of 30 axons, with a minimum "successful transmission threshold" of two axons going hot. (I'm not even counting the four new "secret" axons.)

This translates to an expected minimum of 60 hot axons, and a maximum of all 210 axons.

How the Censored is a crew of only 40 supposed to do that? (Let alone 777?)

Based on our progress so far, does Melissa now think that she suddenly has a crew of 129?
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Maybe the phones are all places she had in her database as being areas where her crew lived on Earth, or had family or friends. Hell, maybe some of them are even places where the crew liked to eat, like the McDonald's axon found recently. So she might have just tried hitting as many points as she could. But who knows what she thinks now with so many points answered, and what is the flea trying to get at with his 4 new secret roads?

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CABOOSEtheROOKI wrote:
i meant 777, and to add onto this, who else believes its just some 29 year old with a little too much time on his/ her hands? Laughing


Who do you think we are, Caboose? Wink

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mighty fine point

Shad0 wrote:
Another_Chooch wrote:
I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115, the PM's have our backs and added the cancelled Axon( phone ripped out) to give us the current total of 116. So it is still possible to hit all 210. I think as the PM's realize that we can not answer a phone more Axon's will be cancelled as well.

Something just occurred to me, that doesn't really make sense.

Melissa's trying to reach her crew, according to the text on about.html.

Melissa's ship had a crew of only 40, according to the MAYDAY text.

Melissa is transmitting to seven groups of 30 axons, with a minimum "successful transmission threshold" of two axons going hot. (I'm not even counting the four new "secret" axons.)

This translates to an expected minimum of 60 hot axons, and a maximum of all 210 axons.

How the Censored is a crew of only 40 supposed to do that? (Let alone 777?)

Based on our progress so far, does Melissa now think that she suddenly has a crew of 129?


I wanted to bring this back up, because Shad0 has a dern fine point here. And we never really followed up on it. And I don't trust Melissa at all.
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Re: mighty fine point

SuperJerms wrote:
Shad0 wrote:
Another_Chooch wrote:
I don't have many posts to my name, but I counted the Axons that we have that are hot which equals 115, the PM's have our backs and added the cancelled Axon( phone ripped out) to give us the current total of 116. So it is still possible to hit all 210. I think as the PM's realize that we can not answer a phone more Axon's will be cancelled as well.

Something just occurred to me, that doesn't really make sense.

Melissa's trying to reach her crew, according to the text on about.html.

Melissa's ship had a crew of only 40, according to the MAYDAY text.

Melissa is transmitting to seven groups of 30 axons, with a minimum "successful transmission threshold" of two axons going hot. (I'm not even counting the four new "secret" axons.)

This translates to an expected minimum of 60 hot axons, and a maximum of all 210 axons.

How the Censored is a crew of only 40 supposed to do that? (Let alone 777?)

Based on our progress so far, does Melissa now think that she suddenly has a crew of 129?


I wanted to bring this back up, because Shad0 has a dern fine point here. And we never really followed up on it. And I don't trust Melissa at all.


Here's an easy answer. Does Melissa even remember how big her crew was? It's quite easy to believe that the number of crew on her ship was one of the first of many things to go when she was rebuilt.

And, regarding the original post (mine), could I have BEEN any more wrong? Sheesh, let's not resurrect one trout for another. Wink

-Atoner-

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