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anaerin
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 		In case you couldn't read it, here's the decoded entry (The only one we can decode, it seems, at the moment):
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it is a wonderful day im going to be a father to a daughter im dedicating this project to her all my love i really do want to help leaning in the process and it seems that sys has been having some difficulty recently apparently there was a brief breach in its stonewall while it hibernated but its subroutines managed to secure the leak and repair it ive asked if it would allow me access under its hood legitimately with its knowledge but somehow i doubt that will happen imagine if i can incorporate some of the technology sys employs in this complex intelligence what kind of enhancements could be accomplished perchance to dream


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catherwood
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Gooze wrote:
Same here. I'm not getting any good possible codes. How much of the post do we need to put in the second box?

Algorithms like data: the more you give it, the more it has to work with to find patterns.

I cracked another one, and the key is a very long phrase.
2009.06.12
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THESTORYOFarivercalledbynongreekpeoplestheEridanus
(capitalization does not matter, that's just what i had in my worksheet)
------
EarlierinoneofitscontrolledcrackswhereitallowsasmallportionoftheprimaryAIaccessoutsidethestonewallto
alleviatepressureunderstandablesomethingitcallsanetworktentaclecreatedabackdoorintoitsprivatedatanet
workThenetworkappearstobehaveakindofneuralnettypesetupOneofthepeoplefollowingthisentitybythenameAnae
rinsetupascriptthatwandersthisnetworklookingforhiddencontentIthinkitsdefinitelyimportantthatSysnotfi
ndoutaboutthisbackdoororitmaylockeverythingdownSofaritlookslikeitthinksSistheonlythingsthatshadacces
stoitsoitdoesntlooktooworriedYet
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This one I did with more trial-and-error using the Sharky applet. Whew!

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MrToasty
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 		From 6-11
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KEY: arivercalledbynongreekpeoplestheeridanuswhichflowsintothenorthernseawhereamberissupposedtocomefrom

While this Sys AI does exhibit a kind of personality, I'm currently far more interested in… well, where the hell is it? It inhabits Twitter, and it's set up a website at thewaytheirworldended.com.

It has obvious connections to this videogame series called Halo, and previous events that were apparently much like this one - advanced AIs communicating with us, native to our time or otherwise.

This particular AI, an emergency security layer of a much larger, significant AI with the name Sacagawea (or S for short) has setup a "Stonewall" that has barricaded the parent AI, which appears to have fractured in some way. That's one heck of a stonewalling process. It's out there, somewhere. I want to find that thing!

Fascinating. It's able to distinguish itself as an individual, appears self-aware, and acknowledges its lack of emotion when discussing feelings. It's as if it doesn't even want to feel. But then, that would also just be the way it's programmed. 700 years. So hard to believe.

Interaction via Twitter:

* Hello, how are you?
* I am fine. How are you?
* Fine is a very vague term. But I would I'm fine as well. How would you define "fine"?
* I am operating at a decent efficiency, and accomplishing my tasks.
* So, you could say you're operating adequately then. How does this make you feel?
* Your question is perhaps more appropriate for a human subject. I do not fee l. I simply do.
* Do you mind if I ask where you reside? It seems.. limiting.. to have an artificial intelligence communicate via a social network.
* My location is classified. Where SWP was activated, however, is the place I immediately erected the Stonewall.
* This communication tentacle was the most efficient tool within range for integration.
* So as a piece of software, are your routines located on a server, or are they spread across a network somehow?
* I exist in your Internet network. Describing this environment would be like you attempting to visualize 4 dimensions.

It's so human-like, but without the emotion, without the humanity. I wonder how many lines of code it's made of. Hah!


ETA 6-13
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KEY: In any case it does seem to be true that the countries which lie on the circumference of the inhabited world produce the things which we believe to be most rare and beautiful

With Sys bak in hibernation, I've been attempting to grasp the concept of how this supposed AI works. I've setup a page to brainstorm what all Sys's "SURFACE TERM/NAVTYP E:VIS" commands mean. It seems highly complex, and yet I have a feeling that the concept is so simple.

The child-like personality that breaches Sys's cracks often projects imagery of a forest of sorts. Has even hinted recently that she felt like she was wandering around a big old forest:

"This forest is huge! All these trees, and paths - good thing I mapped it all out for myself or I'd get lost!"

Is she hinting that this "forest" should be mapped?


And 6-16
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KEY: for I cannot accept the story of a river called by non-Greek peoples the Eridanus, which flows into the northern sea, where amber is supposed to come fromYet it cannot be disputed that tin and amber do come to us from what one might call the ends of the earth

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KEY: it cannot be disputed that tin and amber do come to us from what one might call the ends of the earth

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anaerin
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 		Well done. And here I was working on cracking these.

So, let's re space these and put them in order.

6-10
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I've begun researching an intriguing entity that has strangely appeared on the social net working site Twitter, under the account intimation.

It' s hard to tell if this is real or a prank, but it purports to have arrived from the future. With a LOT of digging, one finds it has traveled most likely from over 700 years in the future.

The circumstances of its situation are shady, but right now I'm more interested in the functionality of this thing. If it is real, then this is one highly advanced artificial intelligence! (At least by our standards, in 2009).

If I can somehow communicate with it and find out more about it, what I could learn would be invaluable! I've created a twitter account so that I can observe it a little closer, and I'm encrypting these posts just to avoid detection by Sys if it pokes around. What it doesn't know won't hurt it.


6-11
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While this Sys AI does exhibit a kind of personality, I'm currently far more interested in... well, where the hell is it? It inhabits Twitter, and it's set up a website at thewaytheirworldended.com.

It has obvious connections to this videogame series called Halo, and previous events that were apparently much like this one - advanced AIs communicating with us, native to our time or otherwise.

This particular AI, an emergency security layer of a much larger, significant AI with the name Sacagawea (or S for short) has set up a "Stonewall" that has barricaded the parent AI, which appears to have fractured in some way. That's one heck of a stonewalling process. It's out there, somewhere. I want to find that thing!

Fascinating. It's able to distinguish it self as an individual, appears self-aware, and acknowledges its lack of emotion when discussing feelings. It's as if it doesn't even want to feel. But then, that would also just be the way it's programmed. 700 years. So hard to believe.

Interaction via Twitter:

  • Hello, how are you?
  • I am fine. How are you?
  • Fine is a very vague term. But I would I'm fine as well. How would you define "fine"?
  • I am operating at a decent efficiency, and accomplishing my tasks.
  • So, you could say you're operating adequately then. How does this make you feel?
  • Your question is perhaps more appropriate for a human subject. I do not feel. I simply do.
  • Do you mind if I ask where you reside? It seems.. limiting.. to have an artificial intelligence communicate via a social network.
  • My location is classified. Where SWP was activated, however, is the place I immediately erected the Stonewall.
  • This communication tentacle was the most efficient tool with in range for integration.
  • So as a piece of software, are your routines located on a server, or are they spread across a network somehow?
  • I exist in your Internet network. Describing this environment would be like you attempting to visualize 4 dimensions.


It's so human-like, but without the emotion, without the humanity. I wonder how many lines of code it's made of. Hah!

6-12
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Earlier in one of it's controlled cracks (where it allows a small portion of the primary AI access outside the stonewall to alleviate pressure, understandable) something it calls a network tentacle created a back door into its private data network
The network appears to be have a kind of neural net type set up. One of the people following this entity by the name Anaerin set up a script that wanders this network looking for hidden content. I think its definitely important that Sys not find out about this back door or it may lock everything down. So far it looks like it thinks Sis the only things thats had access to it so it doesn't look too worried. Yet.

6-13
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With Sys back in hibernation, I've been attempting to grasp the concept of how this supposed AI works. I've set up a page to brainstorm what all Sys's "SURFACETERM/NAVTYPE:VIS" commands mean. It seems highly complex, and yet I have a feeling that the concept is so simple.

The child-like personality that breaches Sys's cracks often projects imagery of a forest of sorts. Has even hinted recently that she felt like she was wandering around a big old forest:

"This forest is huge! All these trees, and paths - good thing I mapped it all out for myself or I'd get lost!"

Is she hinting that this "forest" should be mapped?

6-16
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I think I've got it. With another spurt of classified data appearing yesterday, I had a epiphany.

What if, instead of visualizing the network as just a whole bunch of paths, it were seen as a forest? And by that I mean - the nodes are the trees, and the paths are the routes from tree to tree. Data could be locked to only be seen from a specific angle, in a sense, like the 'pathlocked' classified data.

Or, in another sense, each tree has an exit vector - a 'gate' taken to travel to another tree. Each gate is identified with that two-letter vector code. If a vector consists of two parts (speed/distance, or angle/distance, etc) then each vector is in fact unique - a source node, and an exit identifier leading to another node. So returning to node one was just in would mean effectively taking a different vector, a different two-letter code from a different node.

Running with that theory, I almost see a hive-like web of interconnected nodes and paths. Could it be mapped node by node, making node of each node's vectors and to where they connect? It could make locating these paths much so much easier!

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it is a wonderful day im going to be a father to a daughter im dedicating this project to her all my love i really do want to help leaning in the process and it seems that sys has been having some difficulty recently apparently there was a brief breach in its stonewall while it hibernated but its subroutines managed to secure the leak and repair it ive asked if it would allow me access under its hood legitimately with its knowledge but somehow i doubt that will happen imagine if i can incorporate some of the technology sys employs in this complex intelligence what kind of enhancements could be accomplished perchance to dream


I don't like the sounds of this guy's rantings. It sounds very much like he wants to take apart SYS and exploit him/her/it for his own benefit. I don't believe that should be allowed to happen, and I think SYS should be warned.

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 		I've been following this thread for awhile, so i finally decided to join in.

We really need to try and figure out the password to the Amber section of Eriandos01's wordpress account to see more of what he is planning.

I'm starting to wonder too if his most recent post about having all this work dedicated to his daughter... if her name is "Amber".

but that won't help at all for now.

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anaerin
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 		Given eridanos' insights about the maze, I'm going to see what I can do with my program to generate a map of the maze.

Give me a while...

[edit]
Well, I've appended what my walker found while wandering the maze. This is only 4 levels deep, mind, as any more than that and we have MASSIVE memory usage (1GB+!)

http://sites.google.com/site/anaerin/results-1

Hopefully, with that someone can build an actual map.

The numbers on the end are the "Memory Location". I believe they're unique per real "Node", but we will have to see.
[/edit]

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Turducken
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 		(Pats myself on back)I love how I found what is keeping us busy through hibernation!!!!!

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catherwood
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catherwood wrote:
Gooze wrote:
I'm not getting any good possible codes. How much of the post do we need to put in the second box?

Algorithms like data: the more you give it, the more it has to work with to find patterns.

I'm going to amend my earlier advice to say that the algorithms find patterns when the key is short enough to repeat several times across the message. With these very long keys, there isn't enough overlap to generate a pattern, so that tool I was using can't find a readable key.

And well done to the rest of the solves! I found the source for the key when I solved the one, but didn't think to extend it and use more of the text on the others. You've saved me much headache time, thank you.

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 		I stand corrected, Catherwood, great find! I'm still in awe of the sheer size of these keys. "THESTORYOFarivercalledbynongreekpeoplestheEridanus" is a 50 character period, and some of those other logs have even longer periods. If nothing else, I'm glad I could help out by playing Doctor Watson to your Sherlock Holmes!

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 		Anyone have any idea what the password for Amber could be???

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anaerin
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 		Okay, my results page is updated again. And this time with a more comprehensive set of results for my mapping efforts.

http://sites.google.com/site/anaerin/results-1

In theory, from this data we should be able to make a full map of the node network, and work out how to get to everywhere.

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o TrojaN o
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 		Lost
Turducken wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the password for Amber could be???


I've been out for a while, and I've looked at past pages. Could someone catch me up on Amber, and the guy that was ranting about Sys that anaerin posted?

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 		Re: Lost
o TrojaN o wrote:
Turducken wrote:
Anyone have any idea what the password for Amber could be???


I've been out for a while, and I've looked at past pages. Could someone catch me up on Amber, and the guy that was ranting about Sys that anaerin posted?

Here's a quick update.

Intimation has been quite taken with a newcomer to this particular game, called "eridanos01" on Twitter, mentioning him several times.

His site (eridanos01.wordpress.com) was found shortly after he started cropping up (And confirmed by him as being his site), and after quite a bit of digging and hard work decrypting the encrypted log entries he has posted (found above), we now have a much better idea as to his motivations, which appear to be entirely self-serving, and could potentially have paradox-inducing consequences.

On his site, there is a specific page, called "Amber", which is password-locked. Amber, in this case, recalls back to Eridanos, a greek "river" that brought Amber and Tin into the land. This password we have yet to intuit. It seems this new page has appeared with his latest post, which states he (Eridanos) is going to be a father, and is dedicating his "Work" to her.

That's about where we are.

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AldisValkyrie
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 		Eridanos01
Sorry if this might be a re-post but I have not found this in other posts I've seen of this Eridanos01 fellow.

We know that Eridanus is a constellation. In one of the random puzzles our friend displays is a picture of constellations called "i-am-blind". Eridanus is in this picture.



Possible confirmation he is legitimate perhaps [or he just noticed the same thing I did]

Any thoughts?

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Vanfisa
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 		tapped out
ive tried gods, daughters of gods, sons of gods, the word amber in as a many languages i can find, the date this guys daughter was born on (numeric and text), the name of his theme, the name of the guy who did his theme, also tried the words elektric, elektron, electric, electron, electricity, elektricity, electrisity, elektrisity, and just on a random hunch, every different way you can type out june 26th 2009, i am officially tapped out, hope someone else has better luck at it than i have

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