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Adventurik
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 		I took another close look at the equations on the box and the bright one under Einstein looks like it has part of the force/momentum equation on the board. However, I was studying the diagram in the middle with a magnifying glass, and it is the diagram of the Galileo mission to Jupiter. It launched in October 1987 and hit Jupiter in September 2003.

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Shirley Films
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 		Great find! I think the thing I love most about these puzzles is that they are educational. Even if the subject matter is primarily myth and legend. Smile

It will be interesting to see if your findings pertain to the password.

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 		Equation
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Below the Jupiter mission diagram there is a small box with a '3' in it, or if you turn it upside down or over (reverse the image) it becomes another one of those "E"s. And below it is the image on the instructions printed once again. It looks like the telescope illustration.
On the flap of the box are instructions that are specific, and I have NOT been following them as they direct. Shirley has pointed this out from another reference. But, ...
"Arrange the puzzle pieces within the boundries to establish the base."
"THEN engage a piece of Da Vinci and uncover the scientist' formulas (plural) and follow the signs (plural) etc..."
I have been trying to use the Da Vince piece first to show how the pieces were to be placed. Adventurik used it first to read an expression before placing the pieces. Besides all you need to do with the pieces is pile them up and select the dark ones from the pile and proceed to the Legend puzzle. Of course this bypasses getting the password. Obviously, I'm missing or disregarding why the pieces need to go on the board at all. aarrgggggggg.

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 		Equation
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On the box flap, printed under the instructions in light blue is the Greek leter phi, a circle with a line through it. This symbol is also on the instructions sheet inside the box. This might just be eye-candy or it might mean something. It is used for lots of stuff in math like the Golden Ratio and the second angle with Theta being the first. Since the passwords must be language independent, I feel Greek letters meet that requirement. Now, what letter might equal 4^26xPsub4?

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Shirley Films
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 		E!

Hehe.

I hate this puzzle.

Twisted Evil

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Shirley Films
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 		There is (what appears to be) a crude sketch on the 3rd page of the booklet (the spanish page) of the light path of a telescope. I am not sure sure, but I think it is supposed to represent a Newtonian Reflecting scope.

However, it might be showing a different type. I have done searches for images of "light path" illustrations, looking for something that matches this drawing EXACTLY, but I cannot find one anywhere. If it IS supposed to represent something other than a Newtonian, it might be a clue.

Like I said, it might be nothing but a crude (inaccurate) sketch, but... I thought I would put the observation out there.

EDIT: "The Telescopic vision is not as it appears" could possibly be referring to this diagram. I am not sure what the letters represent on this sketch. Most of the diagrams I have seen online do not include letters like this one.

However... I am not an expert on telescopes.

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Adventurik
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 		Yes, we have "reflected" a lot about this diagram and what it means. And usually we connect the "telescopic vision" statement with it, without any conclusion. If it represents a Newtonian, it lacks the secondary mirror. It could represent a Refracting telescope, but why? Maybe the year that Newton developed the Reflecting scope might play a role. After the clue came out about looking thru the DaVinci piece, I thought the large end of the diagram might represent the side view of the DaVinci piece and looking thru to see the E. But that's a stretch of imagination, maybe.

Also, today we noticed on the box that the diagram is there, too.

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magicrock
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 		equation
E=
OK. I tried to enter E=4^26xPsub4. Obviously that was wrong. It is not language independent and Psub4 is certainly not the best way to describe what needs to be there. I do not know of a way to describe that expression nicely on my computer, and actually that should not be what is required. E should = the solved expression, in language independent language. That is if this is the password. Who knows?

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Shirley Films
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 		I think that it is highly unlikely that the password is an equation that is going to utilize any complex scientific notations (subs, squares, etc). I think that would be asking quite a bit of their target market to have to figure out how to enter those things into a password field that you cannot even see (*****).

That being said, I have tried entering A LOT of equations lately. Including Keplers laws of planetary motion... and others. But there ARE a lot of equations out there that are much easier to type into a keyboard. So. I am not ruling out the possibility that it could be an equation.... the right equation might be very easy to type.

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 		equation
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To me, both clues indicate it is NOT an equation. "the equation will bring you full circle", and "Loking through will give you the formula for the password...". I really like Adventurik's idea about looking through the piece from the Clue, revealing the expression in the center of the board. That is the 'formula for the password', I think. I just can not decipher the formula. What if we dont use squares and subscripts but use just the numbers: 426XP4 ??? Is that a tire size? Could it be a Dell? Windows? Should we look through the windows?

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 		equation
That gets me thinking,we're not looking for a mathemathical solution but the answer to a riddle.
What equation do you need to get a circle to become full.
Is there one of those geniuses that made those equations that used to use terms like coming full circle with something?

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Adventurik
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 		That made me think of the circle in the DaVinci piece. I measured the diameter to be 31mm. Radius 15.5mm. Circumference 97.4mm. Area 754.8mm. Not including the little nub.

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 		Equation
Just watched a show on TV about the theory of everything. String theory, Membrane theory, and "M" theory. If the theory is out, and the equation will bring you full circle, we might need to consider some kind of theory of everything. And language independent, of course. Oh, M is not the password. But, when I submitted it, it took a long time to get the "Wrong, Try again." Probably a glitch. aarrggggggg

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dmb
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 		Have I broken my Enigmatic Temple ?
I was playing around with the Enigmatic Temple when it 'opened', but I don't think this is how it's intended to !

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I noticed that the vertical block opposite the blocks with the peg seemed to have a dowel running up through it as I could just about make out a tiny bit of it sticking up in the gap between the top and the block. I tried to turn the block, even though it looked glued, there was a bit of movement. Suddenly the block just turned and the dice slipped out !!

Click here to see what it looks like (can't spoiler an image!)


Any ideas ? (Don't say how to open it, just a "Yup, you broke it" or a "Nope, that's how it opens" will do !)

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Shirley Films
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 		Dmb,

Mine did the same thing (albiet, after the fact), so I can tell you that it is broken.

Not really broken, but... no that is not how you are supposed to solve it. Smile

I tried to wood-glue mine back in place... but in the end used epoxy, which held much nicer (I was very careful and tidy : )

I think that dowel is meant for support, but it is also supposed to be glued in place.

They use crappy glue. I also had to fix Legend of the King. Sad

Hope this helps.

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