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classical
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The wiki is pretty much all but dead by now :B but I'll forward you the cliffnotes version I wrote for Obs a little while back.
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I've been a lurker for forever, but I stopped coming to the forums for awhile cause of school. Anyways, I found this thread yesterday and spent the whole night reading all 70+ pages, and it might be too late to play now, but if you guys need any help with Chinese, I'd be glad to assist. Smile

I have to go to class right now, and I'm assuming you guys haven't figured out that picture with Chinese symbols yet? I'll take a look when I come back. ^^

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Hayyy jaeneul! Welcome to the brood. :B
We would appreciate any help you can give! As far as I know, several Chinese speakers have had a look at it and couldn't make since of the thing. So we're stuck there. But uh, don't let that discourage you, haha.
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@classical: Send me the Cliffsnotes too, please?

No, I'm not in the order. Sad

My Internet connection's been out all day, and I just got back on.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:59 pm
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I got this

Quote:
You are the fourth.


and this

Quote:
cubits21


I've been a little busy with exams for the past few days, so I haven't been keeping up.

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So now we have, in order:

perimeter
cubits150
cubits60
cubits21

either we have the dimensions of a place, or we have some kind of cryptic riddle that we need to figure out.

Unless this isn't following our count of blog warnings, in which case we might have more than 4..

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we easily have the dimensions of a place. given the origin of cubits and the nature of the game, that much is clear. it will be a masonic or ancient ruins of some sort (herod's temple, great pyramid, etc.)

cubits themselves are constructs of the golden ratio used in art from the beginning of time. it's odd that the perimeter numbers themselves, 21 60 150, are so close to the ratio itself too.
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syntacticAtrocity wrote:
we easily have the dimensions of a place. given the origin of cubits and the nature of the game, that much is clear. it will be a masonic or ancient ruins of some sort (herod's temple, great pyramid, etc.)

cubits themselves are constructs of the golden ratio used in art from the beginning of time. it's odd that the perimeter numbers themselves, 21 60 150, are so close to the ratio itself too.


You gave me a great idea with this, especially referencing Masonry and whatnot again.

Depending on which source you use, and which conversion table you utilize, King Solomon's Temple from the Bible works out to this:
120cubits long (180ft)
60cubits wide (90ft)
33.33cubits high (50ft)

I'm still looking for the perimeter of the temple for more measurements - but I suspect that's what we're dealing with. Good call Syn.


=edit=
Just to be clear, I found a few different conversion tables out there, that allow you to convert cubits to feet, and vice versa. They all end up with roughly different answers - but I do believe this is what our PM is getting at.

=edit2=
One other thing, but it's not really related - I'm also registered for the ARGfest. Anyone else going?

==edit3==
Last edit I promise.

Starting yesterday early morning, I started trading PM's with Rage. Some of you probably saw the strange replies between the 2 of us. To make a long story short, I discovered that he is currently unemployed as it were, and available for hire. So I'm trying to hire him. At first, the thought was to have him be proactive in "protecting" those of us that seem to be under scrutiny (seeing as apparently these guys have walked up and dropped a package into my mailbox, visted Class at her work, followed paperbound down Main street Shocked).
Instead, I've asked him to protect Jenny Chamberlain, and ensure she survives the meeting with the One. I've kept it relatively vague - prodding him with things like "I'm sure you know" and so forth, rather than divulging anything - relying instead on whatever knowledge he would've gained during his house cleaning of the Watchers.
I'm waiting for a response from him now, to see what his terms are - any suggestions on how to further proceed?
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I'm so happy I live in Western Canada and am by default free from person to person ARG interaction (unless it was TT -_-)
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I still haven't figured out exactly what the Chinese words are yet, but the big one in the middle next to the word "small" that someone mentioned before MIGHT be this word: 畜. It means something like "animal", but I'm not sure yet.

Are the Chinese words on the paper supposed to be a "key" to something? Since he asked how to say "key" in Chinese?

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jaeneul wrote:
I still haven't figured out exactly what the Chinese words are yet, but the big one in the middle next to the word "small" that someone mentioned before MIGHT be this word: 畜. It means something like "animal", but I'm not sure yet.

Are the Chinese words on the paper supposed to be a "key" to something? Since he asked how to say "key" in Chinese?


Glad you brought this up, cuz I just had a bit of luck with it. My brother has circulated it through quite a few people, and the main comment he had was that I have really confused the Chinese community Smile.

That being said, there was a bit of luck, below is the original email from him, from his friend:
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Bro,
Not sure if this will help....but you've got some kind of devil message on your hands.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <micahts>
Date: 2009/6/22
Subject: Re: Yo man
To: M <Mike>


Mike,

I couldn't translate it, so I sent it off to one of they guys I work with in China. Below is his response.


Micah,

This is an odd photo. I am not sure the meaning determinately. Just a guess, this is a small paper for pray for a child.

卡 康 手 奉 此 女
Should be a girl's name a word means honorific this girl

小畜
The girl's nickname

This should be the Chinese culture, or Buddhism, a girl who was just born, but always cried, her eldership just thought the girl might get a scare, then they asked for this paper from shaman, the purpose is to help the baby to get rid of something that are not good for her, and baby could be health and happiness.


The way I read that, is essentially a pre-printed prayer for a girl(baby?) - asking to basically scare something out of the child - and then asking for a long life (health & Happiness).
So far no one has been able to decipher the girl's name (in Chinese, it's not spelled like we do - but instead several characters representing different things are used to represent a name, so a Western name wouldn't translate well). The center symbol is believed to be the girls name - the rest of the symbols around it, are the prayer.

At least that's what I'm being told. But in a way, it kind of makes sense if you think of it in context with Jenny.
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Ohhh! The way your brother's friend deciphered it actually does make a lot of sense, I was thinking it was some kind of prayer paper as well. Chinese people usually have these prayer papers that are usually burned as to "send" it to whoever has passed away.

小畜 <--- Unless it's supposed to be one word, that's what I got from the characters in the middle as well.

So is the clue we have yet to figure out just this Chinese paper? xD

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jaeneul wrote:
Ohhh! The way your brother's friend deciphered it actually does make a lot of sense, I was thinking it was some kind of prayer paper as well. Chinese people usually have these prayer papers that are usually burned as to "send" it to whoever has passed away.

小畜 <--- Unless it's supposed to be one word, that's what I got from the characters in the middle as well.

So is the clue we have yet to figure out just this Chinese paper? xD


Heh - I was thinking the same thing. As far as being a "key" - I don't see much of an association. But as a prayer for whom I'm assuming (I know they said not to make any more assumptions) is Jenny - it makes sense. Hopefully we'll get something to clarify a bit more since we can't seem to find anyone who can get us a solid interpretation. (hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge.. Wink - know what I mean?)
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with regards to the perimeter puzzle, i think we are forgetting an important piece of information:

the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com

that is Rich Adams's email address. the 6 digits, preceded by the word "the", are intentional and most likely related to our perimeter dimensions.

it's probably worth noting that Rich Adams is the author of watership down. the number sequence is most likely a literary reference from the novel and will give us context surround the perimeter.
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^ Oooh, that makes sense! So someone with the book is gonna have to do some digging? Are we supposed to email the email address after we figure out what the cubit measurements stand for though?

Wulf74 wrote:


You gave me a great idea with this, especially referencing Masonry and whatnot again.

Depending on which source you use, and which conversion table you utilize, King Solomon's Temple from the Bible works out to this:
120cubits long (180ft)
60cubits wide (90ft)
33.33cubits high (50ft)

I'm still looking for the perimeter of the temple for more measurements - but I suspect that's what we're dealing with. Good call Syn.

I googled "150 cubits 60 cubits 21 cubits" and King Solomon's temple came up as well, and Herod's temple. Since you were talking about the measurements of King Solomon's temple I googled it and found this:http://www.cswnet.com/~duxrow/Temple.htg/tempd.gif

I don't know if that's of any help? I'm new to actually figuring out clues in ARGs since I usually lurk, so sorry if this is useless stuff! X___x

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