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[Trailhead] I'm Sorry
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classical
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 		Why? Only to mess with us, of course. :B
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3v1L Schwinn
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classical wrote:
Why? Only to mess with us, of course. :B


Shocked NO WAY Shocked

Our PM would never do that. LOL
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classical
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 		I KNOW, I AM SO SHOCKED AND SURPRISED AT THIS SUDDEN TURN OF EVENTS.


hahaha
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syntacticAtrocity
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 		i think the PM got frustrated with me. he wrote me long emails trying to coerce me into dialogue that he must have missed.

i was receptive but waiting for a trigger. wasn't about to write him a novel based on conjecture.
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E.Y.E. Spy
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 		What about that "E-Mail" button right under your name?
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Wulf74
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 		[speculation]
Ok - couple of things, mostly speculation. Yesterday classical and I had quite the chat in iRC about the cubits, the map, and whatnot.

Given the background of the story so far, and the 'map' we've been provided, I'm more and more convinced that what we have is a map of part of Solomon's Temple. Specifically Herod's Temple - the layout seems to match pretty closely what I've been able to find so far. I haven't been able to find an exact copy of the map we've been given - but it would make sense. Here you can find some of the dimensions for Herod's Temple.
The "eye" on the map, I interpreted to mean the Oracle. The all-seeing eye is also a part of Masonic symbology (it's on the back of the $1 bill...).
To be clear, I'm not certain that we're dealing with a duplication of either Herod's or Solomon's Temple in the Brightman Institute, but it would make sense. I'm also hoping, that with Port being a former Mason - this might make more sense to him somehow.

Secondly, in Hatch's email to classical it stated very clearly that we need to be familiar with everything we've come across so far. One thing that's been bugging me, has been the package I got quite awhile ago. So far - it hasn't seemed to represent much more than just meta. I did try breaking down the measurements we were giving, to see if it corresponds to anything in the book, but it's a rather short book and only goes up to page 62 or so. But it has to factor in somewhere.

Blackandblue had a great assessment of Rage I think. He's been angry as a result of being unable to resist Ari when she first came to him. He's a control freak. With Ari - it's the one point in his life where he hasn't been in control and he was simply unable to deal with it. So instead he worked around it and blamed everyone else (see: dead heroin dealers). But recently he's been coming to terms with who he is, and his culpability in all of it. The email I received from him shows the remorse, and even moreso the possibility of accepting his responsibility with Jenny, and doing, I believe, whatever is going to be necessary to get a chance to apologize to Jenny, and ask for her forgiveness. I don't think (not sure who brought this up) that Rage is going to try and push himself on his daughter, nor do I think there is any possibility that Jenny will even be used/thought of that way - by anyone. I think that quite possibly you could consider Ari as "Jenny 1.0" - the failed version. Where sexuality/sensuality was over-used. Whereas Jenny is the perfect combination of personality/looks/parentage etc, to create one ready to wear the mantle of "Oracle".
I don't think I can see Rage as a "tool" right now, any moreso than Port. He's still very much a thinking, semi-rational person - who has shown his ability to react emotionally. Which makes him an unknown at this point. But I think that we can trust him.

I had a few other epiphany's this morning - but I can't remember what they were at the moment.


Also, just so there's no confusion, I'm not directly disagreeing with anyone here, just offering my own opinion.

[/speculation][/soapbox]


=edit=
Oh yeah, and since I'll be in PA this coming Monday, maybe I'll go look Hatch up... Twisted Evil
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syntacticAtrocity
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E.Y.E. Spy wrote:
What about that "E-Mail" button right under your name?


The "E-Mail" button right under my name sends to the "E-Mail" account that I signed up on the forums with.

The "E-Mail" address which the PM corresponds with me is my personal account. They are different.
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E.Y.E. Spy
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 		Oh, okay.
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syntacticAtrocity
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From: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
Date: June 25, 2009 12:30:05 PM MDT
Subject: Re: I'm Sorry


Oh come on, dude!! Only the PMs have this email? I got it by hacking the tvonfantine account....it was easy to connect those dots, frankly I'm suprised that none of you did it a long time ago!! And it's a really whopping stretch to assume (ass+u+me) there's even is a PM swimming around in this afterbirth. Oooh wait I'm kinda painted into a corner here....the more I say the more you think that I'm doing the old look at the turd in my right hand while my left hand steals your watch routine. OK. Suffise to say I'm feeling you on this shiznit and believe that your assesment of this dirt clod will end up proven correct. I'd disappear again if I was you!!

Later


To which I replied:

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Tell me, is it common CIA practice to badly mimmick the argot of various subcultures? I also want to know why you're more threatened by my speculation than the actual puzzle solving antics of the rest of the brood.


Surely you would be more concerned about stopping their progress than halting my 'gospel'.

Sent from my iPhone

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syntacticAtrocity
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 		I just found Wulf's wikidot online; haven't seen the CIA RMPs before (clearly Risk Management Profiles).

Anyways, I found this amusing;

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That the forum participants are easily distracted, fearful, and can be quickly dispersed by inconsistencies or disregard for "community" expectations.


I found this interesting:

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Promotion of confusion and unease by degrading individual trust and connecting the participants to known questionable, non-credible and untrustworthy data sources.

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Promotion of paranoia by gathering personal data on participants and presenting it back to them anonymously with no reassurances.

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Obtain access to associated internet and communication resources utilized by the unauthorized network and use them to distribute contradictory and/or incorrect information.

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Promote discord among identified network participants.


and especially this:

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Proactively prepare a press release and Director's Statement disavowing any knowledge of released confidential information and covertly criticizing the involved participants and online forum locations to promote general disbelief and to instigate the perception that said participants and forum members are extreme, have a tendency towards flights of fancy, exhibit general paranoia and are not aligned with the sensibilities of "average Americans".

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syntacticAtrocity
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From: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
Date: June 25, 2009 4:09:51 PM MDT
To: Me
Subject: Re: I'm Sorry


Just got a phone call advising that you may have answered your own questions, yo Wink and a brainy dude like you doesn't need to get mixed up in any pending train wrecks!!


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From: **** <naq>
To: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:04:16 PM
Subject: Re: I'm Sorry


Tell ne, is it common CIA practice to badly mimmick the argot of various subcultures? I also want to know why you're more threatened by my speculation that the actual puzzple solving antics of the rest of the brood.


Surely you would be more concerned about stopping their progress than halting my 'gospel'.


bolded naq is what is displayed when the string is put into this post. the string is:

naq jr zvzvp phm jr ybir, lb!!

this translates to "and we mimic cuz we love, yo!!" in rot-13.

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1) why has my email address been altered to a string that resembles rot-13?
2) there's a reason i came back, and it's definitely wasn't for the meta. sometimes i wonder if the PM just needs a sounding board.


clearly i should have decrypted the string before my response so i could play on it. doesn't matter, i think the question itself should pull a response.
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classical
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 		Iiiiinteresting conversation, there.

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klokworkalex: Got the map and it seems simple enough. Hopefully Starr is going to just get me in the front door! Hope all is well with you!

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 		I got this. "From: Rich Adams (the_45_126_81_63_117_9SPLATyahoo.com) "
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 		and i got this.
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 		And I got this!
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