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Abraxas
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 		It took me all the time until now to realise that we never had an official translation of Moritu Nefai Truns...

I put up another translation attempt, now that we have almost all the words except for Fei:

Quote:

Death is not an obstacle to my Master and my [Fei]

Death is not an obstacle to my Master and my [Fei]

Stranger, remember, Death is not an obstacle now

Stranger, remember, Death is powerless and destroyed

Death is not an obstacle

To my Master nothing is an obstacle

To my Master and my [Fei] now,

Death is no longer!

And Death, isn't emptiness!


link to the wiki

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bluesylvia
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 		Video
Here's what I hear from the 3rd TEDO video:

Yatux tenem fe tnem'abie na.
Cwn pert'nel Tileanul fe korpata cwn yatux fain.
Fe hrend fain (Lorsham?) Dorslishn.
Yatux fain dom tenem.


We have the Tnem'Abie now.
With Tylean's Pert'nel we will have the Book.
The world will (be novices of?) TEDO.
We will have the master (be the master?).

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RAD24
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 		Email from TEDO when I asked if they really killed Abie and Tylean:

Quote:
They brought it upon themselves. We did not wish to do this. It was not part of the plan. We had hoped that they would join us. But they tried to escape. This is a sad state of affairs. We offered them mercy, but the Betrayed us again. This is the ultimate crime. Tylean was the last surviving DorsLishn and Tnem'Abie our oldest Lorsham.


But now with the Per'tnel in our hands, the Book will once again be ours. We will be Masters of Time.


The DorsLishn will live again!


Now is the time to join us my friend!


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amandel
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 		Of Course TEDO's chief Novice, Blue, was spot on in her ability to ungarble their latest vid. Their official press release is:

Tesmna Etermul Dhrem Ol wrote:
As you requested.

Yatux tenem fe Tnem'Abie na!
Kwn Per'tnel ginul fe Korpata kwn yatux fain!
Fe hrend fain lulsh DorsLishn!
Yatux fain Dom Tnem!


Blue's has the same meaning and color me not surprised the last line reads:"We will be the Master of Time"
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bluesylvia
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 		I asked zaqunr for help on the words we couldn't figure out.

This was the reply:
Quote:
Bitux nefai Traltem. Bituxul korpas fai kiri um parti. Mi korpas fai dhrem.
Bitux alovieb fai, ma tilean bitux netenem.
Bitux nestrem konsliatrem fai.

Ya fai konsliatrem. Konsliatrem fai ya tro fe prohim Traltem kwa Tilean fain.
Ma rekordem kwa Moritu nefai truns. Mi Dom um mi Fei bitux nestrem jienem.
Ma jalk ne na.

Bilvin


Translations:
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You all are not Speakers. Your words are empty and powerless. My words are ancient.
You all are apprentices, but Tylean doesn't have you all.
You all need to wait.

I am waiting. Waiting, am I, for the (prophesized?) Speaker that Tylean will be.
But remember that Death Is Not a Barrier. You all need to know my master and my (Fei).
But perhaps not now.

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.


EDIT: Now that I think about it "Mi Dom um mi Fei bitux nestrem jienem" may be more like "My master and my (fei) need to know you."

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RAD24
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 		Well, seems TEDO is pretty desperate for Lorsham:

Quote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:24 AM, <RAD24> wrote:

And what would I have to do to join you, if I wanted to?


Quote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Tesmna Etermul Dhrem Ol wrote:

If you wish to join us, you must request the lessons, but they will no longer be so easy or free as before. You must put forth some effort now.


Quote:
As we are benevolent, here is our next lesson.


The horse that now flies

With its wings in the skies

Is the key to the riddle

Like a haystack with needle

For to open what is close

Find the name of his nose


Seems like a prank to me, just look at the attachment.
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amandel
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 		Pegasus Puzzle Solve
Clever but not a TEDO joke, just their twisty ways.

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The Star Enif is called Pegasus' nose and "enif" is the key phrase to unlock a Camoflaged file titled: "EterTel.rtf" which outlines in detail The Ritual of Eternity. And. yaha, that's all about TEH Song of the Book

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"I could write a hell of a paper on a grown man who dresses like a flying rodent."
"Can you hook up with a Snow Person? Can't tell you or I'd have to marry you."

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RAD24
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 		Re: Pegasus Puzzle Solve
amandel wrote:
Clever but not a TEDO joke, just their twisty ways.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The Star Enif is called Pegasus' nose and "enif" is the key phrase to unlock a Camoflaged file titled: "EterTel.rtf" which outlines in detail The Ritual of Eternity. And. yaha, that's all about TEH Song of the Book


Oh, thank you amandel.

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Abraxas
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 		@Rad
LMAO
Edit:
Shocked
I didn't even think about checking this, was completely certain this was part of the Chronicles...

@Blue
Oooook...I guess they are tired of translating words for us. But fact is, most of those we can't figure out are too vague to derive from the context. I suggest, we just don't care about them for now after we spent sufficient time to think about them (as we did in chat).

Ok, let's go crazy on this again and pick apart all the language news like old times:

kwa can also be "that". Probably not too surprising.

The use of tilean/Tilean does not seem to be consistent or the terms just get confused. In this case I am pretty sure the book refers to a keeper, not Tylean.

As this message once again bursts of Moritu Nefai Truns references, the kiri um parti definitely is used the same way here. But that means that parti can't quite mean "destroyed". I don't know yet, maybe it's "powerless and empty". I thought kiri was empty. And maybe it is. Using two words for "empty" could be done to enforce the message.

prohim has been mentioned here before. The message:
Quote:

Ank tux fe Tesmna Etermul Dhrem Ol:
Bi ank Tilean tenem!
Ank bi prohim fai fe Korpata Profesul!


With all that we know, I'd translate this to:
Quote:

To all the TEDO:
To you who hold Tylean!
To you the the book is promised!


The latest sentence would then become:
"I am waiting for the promised Speaker that will be a keeper."
But "prophecised" also fits in both contexts.

Also interesting:
Quote:

Ya fai konsliatrem. Konsliatrem fai ya[..]

Makes it appear poetic or at least stylised, doesn't it?

As for the "mi dom, mi fei" part...not sure, but this could be similar to the konsliatrem part. Usually this should start with bitux, but as the book says, his words are ancient and he may have a very different structure.


Edit:
I read through the TEDO document and updated the dictionary. We can't be sure about teman and paywl, but I'd say that the former is "use" and the latter is "hands", not the other way around. Because the former has a verb appearance while the latter looks like a noun.
The words with lots of consonants have been nouns so far.
Now I think tenam tenemen from the book's mass email means "has used". and "-en" is passive. Yes, the passive form is indicated on the auxiliary verb in The Language. Very Happy (hope I got all those grammar terms right, it has been a while...)

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israfel070
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 		Wow, bravo to Amandel on that solve! I believe I mentioned in chat that they hinted at using a horse image in a puzzle, in retaliation to me...

@Abraxas LOL, "the Chronicles" sounds all official and canon... Razz

@All The file is pretty straightforward with what should be done to perform the ritual, with the exception of step 10:

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"The Book then Sings the remainder of the song, with the ritual worker joining him at the appropriate phrases."


I'll sit down sometime in the next 12 hours and take a stab at ID'ing the appropriate phrases with which to chime in...

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Abraxas
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 		Binsakne was in chat, now FeGrewl is in!

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 		This mornings chats
Bin first then watcher
this is the logs from today, enjoy me being mellodramatic and sad,, Sad
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SEE!!! I told you, always burn all the books.
PLAYED: RabbitBlack TV2 || PLAYING:TV3 i hope
You will never catch Me!!! ^_^ I still have that stealth camo
Long awaiting : Rachels Walk

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bluesylvia
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 		Olive Branch
From TEDO:
Quote:

We are now prepared to teach you once more. It is not fair for those who have been brainwashed by the Betrayers to be exiled from becoming Lorsham.
Therefore, we will give you another chance. You must show that you have the required knowledge to make it worth our effort. Therefore answer us this riddle:

The hunter sets out near the end of the river;
Like the currents of Hades its currents do flow;
He seeks the knowledge that none will deliver,
The knowledge he hopes will help him to grow.

Before the rise of the phoenix he'll find in his prime,
The name of three diamonds, that form part of time.


EDIT: Sent The Three Kings on Orion's Belt to TEDO, thanks to Amandel.

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RAD24
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 		Email from TEDO:

Quote:
Bilvin Lorsham.


Bi yorishem fain kwond bi um Korpata Profesul ank yatux vexem.
Tralt bi kwond bi fe Korpata tenem um yatux traltn bi dwond lishna yatuxul fai.


Bilvin


There's a bunch of words in there that I don't know.

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Abraxas
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 		Translation:
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You will [yorishem] when you and the Book come to us.
Say when you have the Book and we tell you where our headquarters are.


yorishem = learn? proceed?

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