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[LOCKED] Discuss the Axon .wav files and their transscripts here
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Necroscope
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Nick Page wrote:
has anybody else wondered why 2 navy sentinels were trying to get into jersey's computer before durga destroyed them? what spec do we have on that?


Good question. Jersey seems to almost expect it though as he accusses Durga of being one. And is even a little concerned at what she might have done to them.

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lilmissmaya
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Necroscope wrote:
lilmissmaya wrote:
when you put all the waves onto a play list, it counts up to exactly 20 minutes and 15 seconds.
I don't know what that is significant, but it's a nice clean number...


Wouldn't 20 exactly have been cleaner. Or, seeing how it is bungie, 21 for goodness sake. 20:15 seems kind of random to me.



I guess it's cleant o me since it'ss till a multiple of 5 instead of ebign like 20:18 or 20:13
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i think i know why 2 navy ai were trying to get into jersey's comp.. the were after durga. she took them out right after she woke up.

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9i0
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all axons hot

if we have to turn all the axons hot, than why give us a reward after just two axons per group turned on? turning all 7 of them on takes a lot of time more. and why isn't there any counter for the first 210 (or 200?... how many are there?) axons?

Edit: Offensive sig removed -veen

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Nick Page
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i also dont know why the person on the phone with the guy on the date, the girl who ditches him, he says "you let her escape?" that just seems really odd. we have a situation, you let her escape, it happened so fast, it just doesnt seem like a date kind of thing if him and his friend dont seem weirded out by the word "escape".

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Nick Page
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Wally wrote:
i think i know why 2 navy ai were trying to get into jersey's comp.. the were after durga. she took them out right after she woke up.


thats a good point. maybe durga is part of jersey's dad's or jan's dad's secret whatever, since they are in the signal core and "SSF" respectively.

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and why does jan use that valley girl voice when she talks about taking the first test? its just really out of the ordinary. i know she's being smart-assed, but that always irked me.

sorry, im listening to them all again on little sleep, and things are standing out for some reason.

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on the topic of ordering the sounds, I think there's a possibility that emergency could come before blip... mainly on the basis that the alarm sounds exactly the same in the background, and given that they are different scenes, we're hearing the emergency from one position, and jumping to Jan... there's no reason to assume that the interrogation is taking place at Paris... it would also correlate to the fact that the interrogator mumbles about 'probably cause' in regards to a baseline spike. I think the interrogator is trying to find out if Jan has anything to do with the fire AT Paris...
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thebruce wrote:
on the topic of ordering the sounds, I think there's a possibility that emergency could come before blip... mainly on the basis that the alarm sounds exactly the same in the background, and given that they are different scenes, we're hearing the emergency from one position, and jumping to Jan... there's no reason to assume that the interrogation is taking place at Paris... it would also correlate to the fact that the interrogator mumbles about 'probably cause' in regards to a baseline spike. I think the interrogator is trying to find out if Jan has anything to do with the fire AT Paris...


thats another good though. i'll try listening to that in different orders. also, ive been wondering what the woman who "escaped" through the bathroom asked to be delivered to the guy. the waitor says that she asked him to deliver something and the check, and he only takes the check. its probably not important, but if they made a point to say she wanted something delivered, why wouldnt it be important?

actually, now that i think about it, the probably cause thing just seems like because of her breaking into the motor pool and the base and him trying to figure out why, but i'll check them both out.

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thebruce:
it's pretty obvious that the cop is questioning Jan about the base incident.

references to MPs and 'jumping fences' and the 'base motor pool' and so on....

plus it makes sense that her 'dad' would burn down the police station to destroy the results of the extensive tests they ran on jan.




something i discovered:

The name Durga in sanskrit means "the inaccessible."

i think this might be why Jersey says "trust me, it's at least partly right." Because Durga is inaccessible, she can't find anything out about herself, she is reflected.

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Jersey/Durga manipulating Jan events? How is AI recording?

Previously spec'd: Durga tells Jersey "I can do better than that...", followed by the start of the Jan sequence.

[SPEC] What if Jersey, using Durga, is the one monitoring and manipulating events within the Jan sequence, such as the blackout and perhaps the police station fire? (Personally I lean towards J^2 starting the fire at this point)

And we have to consider how Melissa has physically been able to actually record all of these conversations...she must be within nearby computerized systems in order to "hear". It might be worthwhile to investigate the list of the places the AI would have to be "listening" from in order to obtain these memories in the first place. For instance, the conversation between Kamal and Aiden's girlfriend sounded like it was outside while they were walking, meaning that the AI would have to be in Kamal's laptop or PDA, unless there are other surveillance methods at her disposal such as outdoor mics or satellites.

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lilmissmaya
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remember when jersay asked for pictures of jan, and she said, I can do better, I think she meant "I can show you what's going on right now with her" I really think there is somthing missing betweent he date thread and the jersey/jan that ties them
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Blicero wrote:
thebruce:
it's pretty obvious that the cop is questioning Jan about the base incident.

references to MPs and 'jumping fences' and the 'base motor pool' and so on....

plus it makes sense that her 'dad' would burn down the police station to destroy the results of the extensive tests they ran on jan.

However, by using the term "probable cause", it sounds like a much larger crime has been committed, other than simply 'borrowing' a vehicle from the motor pool or trying to jump a perimeter fence. And why would the alarm be blaring just for Jan? She may have broken in, sure, but then even so, 'probable cause'? I think the fact that Paris is burning, arsen is a good crime that Jan may be being questioned for.

Paris burns, and during the 'blackout', Jan's blip is seen and obviously due to her evading MPs, she's assumed to be the culprit, so she runs, but she's captured and questioned. She may not have anything to do with the fire, ala the 'dare', so perhaps she was set up, in way, which is why she claims to have done nothing (she doesn't avoid that question), and her 'father' is worried that the secret they have is in jeopardy.

Now that I wrote that, I feel more strongly that that's a very very valid speculation... Very Happy
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for some reason i think emergency is seperate. every group has a start sound and an end sound, but emergency has a start sound and an end sound all to its own. i think its not a continuation of anything, just something that is related and important. i dont think it comes before or after anything specifically, i just think it happens sometime after the interrogation. i think james james did it, but i dont think it fits in with any of the other files, i think it's its own seperate entity, since it starts and ends on its own.

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Okay, I think it's asking way too much of us to visit all 210 sites, especially when not all of the phones are reliable. I was amazed at how many WAVs we were able to unlock on the first day, as I'm sure were many others.

Basically, I think that it is so much to ask of us, that it can't possibly be what's expected. There just has to be something else we have to do. This was mentioned elsewhere, but getting all 7 of a set would be a good start to see what we need to do. If nothing happens, we can better hypothesize that the 210 goal is meaningless. if the color changes or something like that, then we have a solid goal for which to strive.

Given the information that we have, I don't think that we can really start trying to find the relationships between the three storylines. Its like we have three lines that all stretch towards one intersecting point, but they never quite reach it. They are too close to not have anything to do with one another, but they are too seperate to already be connected, you know?

Anyway, i'm just rambling. any thoughts?

[edit]One more thing I forgot to mention is that due to the fact that we dont have enough information, we are reading way too much into certain aspects of individual sounds. There are 30 sounds so far, if any One were to have the solution, the other 29 would be simply fodder.[/edit]

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