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Abraxas
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Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 736 Location: Cologne, Germany
Perhaps it's Jove representing justice or law and it had to be used, because the cipher needed to have a certain length? But then why write it "Iove"...
There might be a Roman theme here somewhere, but "divi" and all that is still speculation.
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:05 pm
elvenkayt
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Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 92 Location: Rural Valley, PA
Perhaps Jove merely refers to God in general and religion refers to the actual institution.
I assume that the fool is KJantiNWO, who seems to have a pretty heavy faith in God.
Just speculation, of course.
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:41 pm
Kefrus
Boot
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 34
Actually it was a strange typo made somehow that the original quote messed up on the boards. When I made a thread on the IG board and directly copied that excerpt that said "Iove" when I pasted it came out as "love"..Don't really know what went on there.
spurt34 wrote:
possibly.....
could be either. Can you tweet him about the 48 stars, that way we can confirm if there is something there or not?
KJantiNWO@Kefrus Its just some picture off the internet
There that one goes.
Elvenkayt: Currently, he isn't following me but in the spirit of bad luck I went ahead and DM'd her anyways.
As for KJ, I have thrown at all angles at this guy and he is doing nothing but throwing up a wall. We need to figure out what he believes to be a "real deal associate" and use that to derive some form of productive information.
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:58 pm
H(e)x
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Joined: 21 May 2009 Posts: 84
A "real deal associate" is one of the KRF Group's associates. From their website:
Quote:
The foundation currently has over 200 scientists, lawyers, and entrepreneur "Associates" working diligently to further its goals. Identities of the foundation's "Associates" are not disclosed. Lifetime appointments for new "Associates" are granted biennially.
I assme John, our contact, is one.
We already have some concrete information on KJ: those are his initials, and that is what he is known generally as, and he did some IT work for the KRFGroup. Surely KRF has the employee records to discover him? We're being strongly encouraged to phone John, so I recommend someone does that (I won't have time 'til tomorrow, and the pacing of this game seems to partly depend on how quickly and well we do stuff.)
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:13 am
sbroderick
Boot
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 24
H(e)x wrote:
A "real deal associate" is one of the KRF Group's associates. From their website:
Quote:
The foundation currently has over 200 scientists, lawyers, and entrepreneur "Associates" working diligently to further its goals. Identities of the foundation's "Associates" are not disclosed. Lifetime appointments for new "Associates" are granted biennially.
I assme John, our contact, is one.
We already have some concrete information on KJ: those are his initials, and that is what he is known generally as, and he did some IT work for the KRFGroup. Surely KRF has the employee records to discover him? We're being strongly encouraged to phone John, so I recommend someone does that (I won't have time 'til tomorrow, and the pacing of this game seems to partly depend on how quickly and well we do stuff.)
I called with what info I could. I can call again and inform them of the IT work (one detail I left out). Also, I am tweeting to KJ ot see if he is interested in talking to someone at KRF directly (maybe we just need to connect him with them?).
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:03 am
booba
Unfictologist
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1433
Re: Iove
I think thats just a transcription problem. In the original font the small L and cap "I" look the same. If read as small L it decodes as "love". In the decoder I used, the (wrong) cap "I" looks like "love" even tho it really means "Iove" Cornfused? Me too.
http://twitpic.com/c0qra
Luiawmq xm bnlvzqbj oxm Ibom gds pxoy ziia ic chr dml
Luiawmq xm bnlvzqbj oxm lbom gds pxoy ziia ic chr dml
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere.php
Password kjantinwo
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:41 am
Kefrus
Boot
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 34
Contacted John today. Informed him on various facts known about our man and he told me that they believe they have a good idea of the identity of "KJ". He requested that we focus on his contacts and any information available about them and to contact him directly should anyone find out anything.
The above is what I have posted up on the IG boards.
I also spoke with him about KJ's reluctance to give details to anyone that wasn't a direct associate of the group and he said something along the lines of from what they have found out about him and attempted that it couldn't be accurate because they have attempted to make contact several times so I don't know where that particular avenue is going.
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:48 am
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sbroderick
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Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 24
Argh! This can get confusing.
So I tried to call John and spoke with him asking for elaboration on just what they are looking for on KJ. I guess I asked something I shouldn't. He said he though KJ had some involvement (in what?). I pressed for further elaboration (like contacts within KRF? Or connections with the radio message and Kryptos?), unfortunately the call disconnected.
So fellow players, did I cross a line in my questions? Do you think it was a deliberate or accidental disconnection?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:39 pm
Kefrus
Boot
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 34
sbroderick wrote:
Argh! This can get confusing.
So I tried to call John and spoke with him asking for elaboration on just what they are looking for on KJ. I guess I asked something I shouldn't. He said he though KJ had some involvement (in what?). I pressed for further elaboration (like contacts within KRF? Or connections with the radio message and Kryptos?), unfortunately the call disconnected.
So fellow players, did I cross a line in my questions? Do you think it was a deliberate or accidental disconnection?
From the way the person spoke to me, it was probably deliberate. I was carefully choosing my wording to try to give him the opportunity to say more to lead to something and he was very picky about what he said so I imagine if one pushed too much for direct information he would cut the call to avoid turning you down directly.
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:44 pm
booba
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Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1433
deliberate I'd say
"He requested that we focus on his contacts"
Looked a little at the people he was following on twitter, some really random stuff in there, worth a closer look I guess.........
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:46 pm
Kefrus
Boot
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 34
booba wrote:
deliberate I'd say
"He requested that we focus on his contacts"
Looked a little at the people he was following on twitter, some really random stuff in there, worth a closer look I guess.........
Indeed, the most obvious at first was libertyideals because they have almost the same avatar but when you look over the tweets it doesn't seem to hold anything at least at first glance useful.
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:52 pm
spurt34
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Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 35
KJ's response to my inquiry into what IT work he did for KRF. " HTML and stuff I'm not Bill Gates or anything."
hmmm, i was thinking if he did networking work or something he could be the one sending messages to Abby.
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:14 pm
sbroderick
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Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 24
Ok, going through the Twitter contacts of KJ I found two very suspicious ones.
http://twitter.com/frankriga
Frank Riga is working on a book about a company called AFC that is doing some shady stuff. A project called "Fountain of Youth" and some others. This project though seems to be a reactor and not some virus. A preview of the book is posted on his twitter linking to here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17738815/Global-Collusion-The-Cover-Up-the-novel
http://twitter.com/freedompolitics
This guy has a background image of various Presidents and Generals as zombies. Unfortunately, nothing else stands out.
The image references an article:
http://thinkfree.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/02/the-tyranny-of-undead-ideas/403/
And then there is this one
http://twitter.com/GOPMommy
So a bunch of right-wing opinions, except on her blog:
http://www.gopmommy.com/
On the right is the same networking tool KRF and ZT uses.
What the hell? Nothing else I can find to substantiate it.
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:33 pm
sbroderick
Boot
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 24
Here is another weird one. I disregarded it at first though because of the Horoscope BS.
http://twitter.com/dj6ual
But the other posts are VERY similar to KJs earlier ones. Lots of #NWO shit and a few mentions of living off the grid. Some stuff on #Overwatch, whatever that is (HL2?).
http://twitter.com/PHPChatUser7
I think it is another player, but why so many encrypted messages?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:42 pm
booba
Unfictologist
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 1433
Hard to tell what to look for, or if its even there (yet).
The snazzy Paul Anka seem a little out of place?
http://bit.ly/11OuqH
Edit to add: You can forget phpchatuser7, I have it on good authority that he's just a
kusipää
田吾作
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:15 pm
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