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[ZT] Twitter Intel: Sotpyrk and KJantiNWO
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MrToasty
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Ah, I knew there was some pattern to it, but couldn't see it immediately.

A little easier to see the pattern this way
Code:
1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
1        2        3        4        5        6      7          8        9   
   10       11       12       13       14       15       16       17       18
      19       20       21       22       23       24       25       26     


So, he took the alphabet, applied the Skip cipher from before with a skip of 3, then used that for the substitution.

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booba
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Wonder if that pattern is from the cryptogram generator that was used?

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H(e)x
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Here's a frequency analysis:


s : 13
d : 11
i : 9
f : 8
h : 6
y : 6
t : 6
o : 5
m : 5
e : 5
b : 5
g : 4
z : 4
v : 4
q : 4
r : 3
p : 3
l : 3
a : 2
x : 2
u : 2
k : 0
j : 0
n : 0
w : 0
c : 0

This strikes fairly true with another substition cipher, (as do the repeated strings) and I'd be surprised if we were given two ciphers so close that didn't share something in common.

I am, however, not getting anywhere with it. I have an alternative possible transcription that I'm working with:

Code:
Vf sfqd ygsxeep szs zsdufh rxo tdyim sqmr sqg, lida byd hzb dvheft sp sid lbtqidra. Vf byg iidhy smtodhvmpst hg efyoi, lfd isz oime sfobt? U


Basically, this assumes that two of the full stops are commas, and that two of the capitals Is are thus lower case Ls. It may or may not be right.

Two strings are particularly key: SZS and IIDHY. S, by frequency, is likely to be either E, T or A, and none of these yield likely words (apart from possible EVE?). IIDHY is even worse: I cannot find a single word that fits that letter pattern -- five letters, beginning with a double. And I'm pretty certain it's not LIDHY. So I don't know. I've tried some cracking without worrying about either for a bit, and I'm not getting anywhere yet; will return tomorrow if no progres is made.

Also mysterious is that stand-alone U. I feel it must either indicate some kind of reverse, as previously suggested, or it is somehow a key to the cipher. But I don't know how.

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amandel
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Another Character Count from AltaMatic Cryptography

s=13, i=11, d=11, f=8, h=6, y=6, t=6, m=5, b=5, o=5, e=5, z=4, v=4, q=4, g=4, r=3, p=3, .=3, u=2, x=2, a=2, l=1
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booba
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Re: iidhy

Well there's Aaron. The first i looks a bit thicker, like the first letter in lida, so it could be a cap I or small L with a smudge that makes it look like a small i, and that could make that wicked 11 letter word a last name.
The U at the end I thought maybe he had signed with a S ?

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MrToasty
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Here's a larger and somewhat enhanced version of the text.

That lone U is bugging me too. It could be the text was cut off. This could again involve some transposition. Or it could simply be him signing this with an initial.

As for other parts, if the Vf's are the same word, it could mean this is a substitution, or that it's something like Vigenere with a key length that causes them to be encoded the same.
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spurt34
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I am looking at the picture and thinking that it is Ponce de Leon of the fountain of youth fame. maybe. in the background, by the well, it looks like a couple of indians, perhaps Timuquan Indians the first Floridians. The Timuquan worshiped sungods, sacrificing their firstborn. " The native Floridians called themselves "Children of the Sun," and offered their first-born as a sacrifice to the Sun God."

I cannot find any reference to Ponce de Leon and any sacrifice.

Just throwing it out there, possible clue to the code. It does seem that the pictures are also part of the message.

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Laguz
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picture

I haven't been able to find any similar picture, but considering we are talking about a plague here. It looks to me like this is early bio-warfare, not a sacrifice. If you wanted to kill a group of people you infected their drinking water supply (the killing over the well).

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ahaigonebananas
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While my research has turned up plenty of examples of catapulting bodies over the walls of cities, I have yet to find an example of contamminated well water from corpses.

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Unfortunately, I have went from wildly complex and out there possibilities to the insanely simple in both the decoding process and trying to solve the key to turn up absolutely nothing.

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amandel
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KJantiNWOhttp wrote:
http://twitpic.com/cm6sh - Found a spot in the backcountry. Going to start moving supplies out there soon

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booba
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From Twitter

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Sotpyrk The Creator has returned to us. The communication was successful. The prophecy will be fulfilled this year. Freedom is near!
8 minutes ago from Seesmic


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Project Orion

Got a little more details on it:

From KJantiNWO (DMs):
Quote:
It has to do with going into space. I don't think it got off the ground but they know nobody can stay here.
They are good people - trying to stop it. I don't think they can and I know forces are working against them.
Worst thing is I helped the wrong side. I deserve what I get but its going to hurt everyone else too. The world is done.


I'm trying to get him to verify, but it sounds almost like an escape plan. Stuff goes to zombie-land here, they find a way to move on out.

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Re: Project Orion

dangermonkey wrote:
Got a little more details on it:

From KJantiNWO (DMs):
Quote:
It has to do with going into space. I don't think it got off the ground but they know nobody can stay here.
They are good people - trying to stop it. I don't think they can and I know forces are working against them.
Worst thing is I helped the wrong side. I deserve what I get but its going to hurt everyone else too. The world is done.


I'm trying to get him to verify, but it sounds almost like an escape plan. Stuff goes to zombie-land here, they find a way to move on out.


Ya, I guess none of us can talk to him about it since he sent it privately to you.
We need to find out who he worked for on the wrong side. I think that is the contact that KRF folks want to know more about.

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ahaigonebananas
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Continuing my research from last night i stumbled upon these:

"During the battle of Tortona in the 12th century AD, Barbarossa used the bodies of dead and decomposing soldiers to poison wells."

"Roman literature from 300 BC quotes examples of dead animals used to contaminate wells and other sources of water."

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