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[LOCKED] [META] Cold Axons, Take 2
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Sphyx
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Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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Location: Seattle

 		Re: 17:55 axon
mykie wrote:
kicking222 wrote:
My friend just went to the 17:55 "emergency" location in Seattle with his brother and another friend, and they said there was no pay phone on the block. He even went into buildings (including an Ethiopian Church!), but couldn't find any payphones. The closest ones are two blocks from the location, and his brother is going to go to these phones tomorrow to see if they're the X marking the spot.


I had my little girl with me, but I looked around and asked a few locals. The only one I found was next to the Lucky Devil tattoo shop, but it doesn't accept incoming calls. It didn't ring when the time came anyways, so I'm really at a loss. I may return tomorrow, who knows.


That one as well as the Seattle 10:38 point directly to apartment buildings. The 10:38 does have one payphone nearby, but one doesn't accept incoming calls. There was another a further bit away, but I don't know if it accepts incoming calls or if it even works. I wanted to go do the 17:55 today, but I got wrapped up in stuff for school. I'll be there tomorrow at the one I think is correct.

In other Seattle news, why does 11:41 point to the middle of a road (Broadway)? None of the nearby payphones rang when I was there on Tuesday. And why are most of the Seattle coords so off from where nearby phones are?

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SYFer
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Dorkmaster wrote:
17:11 axon says CANCELLED AXON ERROR... anyone else catch that? When did that happen? (sorry I've been away all day, if this is trout, I'll be glad to eat it)

edit - you can't see that it's the 17:11 axon. It's the first of Hi_Aiden


Heheheh. I think the moral of the story here is that if there's a suspected "impossible" axon, you just need to get medieval on it. In San Fran, we had a large, excellent crew massed in spite of somewhat waning hopes. Perhaps our thoroughness forced Melissa to check her axons.

At any rate, San Francisco has cleared the docket.

Next?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:11 pm
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 		Re: 17:55 axon
Sphyx wrote:
In other Seattle news, why does 11:41 point to the middle of a road (Broadway)? None of the nearby payphones rang when I was there on Tuesday. And why are most of the Seattle coords so off from where nearby phones are?


I have had a GPS for years now and I can definitely tell you that recording coordinates can be misleading, especially in big cities. If the coords were recorded with handhelp GPS receivers then that would explain why some are way off. Most of the time in big cities you cannot get good reception and that leads to a bad coordinates. If the person who recorded them was not used to using a GPS reciever then they wouldn't know about how a recievers accuracy can be really screwed up. What basically would happen in that situation is that the reciever would be triangulating your position to be other then where you actually are. So while the reciever is telling you that your recorded coordinates are for exactly where you are standing the reciever thinks that you are standing somewhere else.

Sorry if that is hard to understand, but it is all I got at the moment, so many other things going on around me at the moment...hard to...retain...focus.....ehhhhhhhhhhh

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Ceantari
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 		So, we can finally rest our feet for now...

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marq
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 		15:19 axon
Currently Emdiva is planning on making a go of the 15:19 axon on Saturday.

That leaves only the 14:35 location in Charlotte, which is a park with no phones, but does have a piece of playground equipment in the shape of a bee. Wink

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TheAmazingXemo
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 		13:05 St. Louis Missouri, 38.771199, -90.220764.

Two payphones, one inside the parking lot of a Steak 'n' Shake, and another inside the Steak 'n' Shake. Both phones broken, tryed calling it, wouldn't ring. Tryed making outgoing calls, couldn't get a dial tone, or get the phone to take my money. No other phones in vacinity were ringing either. Sad

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mhorton
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 		42.714250 -089.000977 Janesville WI 5:11 local time

I sent my brother out to check this one again. I live to far away from my hometown to do it myself. I saw on the boards yesterday that a gentleman from Milwaukee was scouting it out and got nothing. However after doing some more research with some tools found linked to this forum I found out the local culvers (A fast food Chain) address gives the exact coordinates for the GPS. My Brother scouted it out and found nothing. As he was leaving out the back way, which no one uses he saw a payphone. to bad it was 5:13 when he found it. He is going to try again tomorrow.

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Nightmare Tony
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 		5L47,m anaheim, ca. Wasnt able to make it int he last 2 days, but its still not hot. The first time round, no phone rang at all, had plenty of crew wcovering the 3 possible phones.

I also emailed ladybee describing the payphone situatuion there. Am hoping that they get it and fix up accordingly. all our group knew the correct response and things, but the phones never rang. Sigh.
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chappy
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 		Washington DC Status
Washington DC Status

Sites that are "impossible" according to the status page:
8:15 (11:15 EST) 38.891917 -77.025967 Phone is out of order
14:38 (5:38 EST) 38.89995 -77.040817 Phone is out of order (tested by aliendial and kaziel)

I have not found the post detailing the location of the 8:15 and the description of the problem... help?

Sites that have not been found:
6:07 (9:07 EST) 38.891883 -77.026117
9:14 (12:14 EST) 38.910133 -77.03255
10:35 (1:35 EST) 38.887383 -77.015017
13:02 (4:02 EST) 38.892683 -77.020933

6:07 9:07 EST
Note carefully the 6:07 and 8:15 coordinates, and look at this animated gif comparing them (generated from randmcnally.com). If anyone knows where 8:15 is located, the 6:07 should be right on top of it. If these phones are inside the Natural History museum, it will be impossible to reach the 9:07 EST phone before the museum opens at 10:00 EST.


9:14 12:14 EST
I looked for this one Wednesday, and the coordinate seems to be either in an apartment building or a construction site (both inaccessible). I found two nearby phones (blue squares) below, but this site still needs investigating... there are probably more phones to be found, and none of them have been definitively ruled out.


10:35 1:35 EST
Has anyone tried for this phone? Any volunteers?


13:02 4:02 EST
I looked for this one myself Thursday, and the closest payphone (blue dot) did not ring. Its brother (it's actually a pair of phones) has been ripped out. I will investigate the nearby metro station phones Friday (green dot).


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:25 am
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 		You know...
You know after thinking about the 17:11 San Francisco phone a little bit I might be about to speculate about why the PM's have said it is an error, or at least updated it to an error. Trout me if it has already be posted somewhere else, but I haven't seen specific mention of it.

When SYFer posted about the situation yesterday (25 Aug 2004) with that phone he stated that the phone could be located inside the high security Bank of America office and how he was scouting out inside the garage of that building. Since the SF crew was being so vigilant with that specific location the PM's might have figured that they should pull that phone off the list so that none of the players eventually try to locate the phone in such a building. This might have been a way for the PM's to protect their asses against any liability.

This leads me to believe that unless the other unclaimed phones are in high risk locations and the players trying to find these phones let it be known that they are willing to "go all out" to find these phones, the PM's are not going to update the axon list with more error messages.

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ammortal
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 		This is a very reasonable post. What I have noticed is that the timestamps on unfiction posts reporting the cancellation began appearing shortly before we gathered today. It seems PM's were watching and figured out that it was a bunk axon, or the system was set to reveal in an ingame way a red-herring contact point.

Oh SO curious to see what developments there will be tomorrow!

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Giskard
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AngriBuddhist wrote:
Another option I have been trying for (to much criticism) is a completion
of one set of axons. Maybe that whole set will reset. Maybe the progress
bar will change to something new. Maybe the set of boxes will just change
color again.


I am also very much of this opinion, and reading SYFer's report on the LA axon that seemed impossible, which then got changed to AXON ERROR makes me feel even stronger about that. Why? Because he specced that it might be impossible to complete an entire group!

The instant he did that, they change an axon to 'error'... imho to show us that yes, we should get at least one group complete so we can see what happens.

My spec is that, if nothing special happens, we will at least get a "bonus boost" in points on the progress bar...
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AngriBuddhist
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 		Giskard wrote:

Quote:
I am also very much of this opinion


That makes a total of what? Four of us? Some people around here seem
to believe that if your not working on or spec'ing about the things that they
are, that you are on the wrong track.
I see their track but it's way to crowded, noisy, and the end of it is just
around the bend. All currently available .wav files have been opened and
organized. Understand them, yes. Try to solve them, impossible.

We already need new data and there is more than enough man power
here to check any valid angle.

What possible reason could that 777 counter have for being there other
than to tell us we must fill it? It's presence alone is more than enough
validity to justify attemting to finish a set of axons and most likely to
finishing them all. We got half way there in two days but momentum is the
key.

I think we need a new "Phil". There is "Iky's payphone log/lat link"
and a list of reasons that people believe the axons didn't go hot.

Combinig those with a cold axon "Phil" could help mobilize people.

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AngriBuddhist
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 		I have seriously thought about doing this but have to fly to St. Paul, Mn.
on Tues. for a wedding that I'm totally unprepared to go to.
I blame that on ILB and take no personal responsibity for it. Dunno

Anyone else?

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Aspmaster
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 		I was a little upset that the Memphis Axon didn't have anyone else besides me going there. I messed up yesterday by saying "Operator", then after a pause of silence, I said "Operator" followed by "yes_or_no". This gave me the failed message.

After watching a nice video clip yesterday of a large group at an axon in San Diego, I now know exactly what to say. I will go back to the Axon today at 7:51PDT, and only say "Operator". I will not stop until this Axon goes HOT.

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