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ArianAce1234
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Re: White Knight / alice

Capitan_Barbossa wrote:
ArianAce1234 wrote:


Ah, that is odd... in fact, Mark may not have a copy of through the looking glass, but as it turns out, he does have a copy of the hunting of the snark. And it's opened to the page with the map (although the dotted line of the map isn't on it for some reason) and he has a sticky note in one of the other pages. most interesting...


I must be missing the obvious, but there is this Hunting of the Snark copy? I clicked all over the room and can't find it.


filing cabinet, most recent file. check there.

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The following is kinda spoiler-y in the sense that it is essentially cheating. Of course there are many flash decompilers out there, but if you don't have one and are interested in how SitS works "under the hood" then read on.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I was perusing through the source code for the flash and there was a note left for hackers! I laughed so hard. There is also a commented-out portion of the authorization page which displays another message for hackers.
somethinginthesea.com uses a special username and password so that you can't bypass the puzzles and trick the website into thinking you've solved a puzzle when you really haven't.
Anyway, it looks like there is no way to solve the metal puzzle box right now, but a future update may add "prizes" for us to unlock.

Check out:
http://somethinginthesea.com/xml/bioroom.xml
http://somethinginthesea.com/php/auth.php (right-click->view source for a laugh)
http://somethinginthesea.com/swf/extended/phase1/the_square_box.swf


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Goodness gracious, I stop checking the site for one day and this is what happens? Wow. *applauds everyone's hard work*

And those explanations were an awesome help.


But I'm sad to hear that the Red Queen's Race is nearing its end D:
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Site has updated with new content.

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ScottyDo
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i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."

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Crazy Theory

Apologies if someone way back made this observation / theory, but I just had a crazy idea -

What if we are viewing Mark's study through the eyes of a big daddy or the big sister? It would explain Stango's comments about a red light in the apartment, and may explain how we 'see' the apartment like we are looking through a telescope/lens of some type (....or diving helmet).

I'm not sure how that would fit into the ARG archetype (as this is my first), but thought I would throw it out there. Feel free to beat me down if this is heresy.

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ArianAce1234
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Aluminus wrote:
The following is kinda spoiler-y in the sense that it is essentially cheating. Of course there are many flash decompilers out there, but if you don't have one and are interested in how SitS works "under the hood" then read on.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I was perusing through the source code for the flash and there was a note left for hackers! I laughed so hard. There is also a commented-out portion of the authorization page which displays another message for hackers.
somethinginthesea.com uses a special username and password so that you can't bypass the puzzles and trick the website into thinking you've solved a puzzle when you really haven't.
Anyway, it looks like there is no way to solve the metal puzzle box right now, but a future update may add "prizes" for us to unlock.

Check out:
http://somethinginthesea.com/xml/bioroom.xml
http://somethinginthesea.com/php/auth.php (right-click->view source for a laugh)
http://somethinginthesea.com/swf/extended/phase1/the_square_box.swf


okay, three questions. First of all, what is the bioroom? perhaps our next spot?
Second, on the source code, it says "I'm watching you. Stop it, that tickles"... it's humerous, but I don't get it.
and third, what's the box there for? I've already solved this particular box.

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ArianAce1234
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ScottyDo wrote:
i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."


This poem was looked at by us before, but I just now looked over it and found some interesting invofmation. "His answer trickled through my head, like water through a sieve". His answer is extremely long, but... perhaps there is more to the answer than we can see? (there seems to be a link to him selling butterfly mutton-pies to men on stormy seas, and the sea-goers hunting the snark? It may just be bal menutia but... I figured it was an interesting lead.) Thanks for this post!

Edit: have you guys realized that it's a two part question? and only one part is ever answered? the white knight asks who the man is and how it is he makes a living. but, the man only tells what he does. perhaps the answer is who the man is! but how on earth would we figure that out? it's never mentioned! Unless the question is directed at Lewis Carroll, who apparently is our puzzle maker, right? maybe the answer is O.O.L.?hmm. hope this helps you guys!

Edit #2: no luck with O.O.L. but, another thought crossed my mind. Remember how his sign off at the end of his last code was the main hint? the drunk comment? and it was the drunken sailor song? Well, the end of this one says "one other laboring upon the waves of rapture". I think we're completely omitting that. just a thought. we'll figure this out sooooon!

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ScottyDo
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ArianAce1234 wrote:
ScottyDo wrote:
i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."


This poem was looked at by us before, but I just now looked over it and found some interesting invofmation. "His answer trickled through my head, like water through a sieve". His answer is extremely long, but... perhaps there is more to the answer than we can see? (there seems to be a link to him selling butterfly mutton-pies to men on stormy seas, and the sea-goers hunting the snark? It may just be bal menutia but... I figured it was an interesting lead.) Thanks for this post!

Edit: have you guys realized that it's a two part question? and only one part is ever answered? the white knight asks who the man is and how it is he makes a living. but, the man only tells what he does. perhaps the answer is who the man is! but how on earth would we figure that out? it's never mentioned! Unless the question is directed at Lewis Carroll, who apparently is our puzzle maker, right? maybe the answer is O.O.L.?hmm. hope this helps you guys!

Edit #2: no luck with O.O.L. but, another thought crossed my mind. Remember how his sign off at the end of his last code was the main hint? the drunk comment? and it was the drunken sailor song? Well, the end of this one says "one other laboring upon the waves of rapture". I think we're completely omitting that. just a thought. we'll figure this out sooooon!


I did think about that a little too but i got caught up in the poem. Maybe someone laboring on the way to rapture could point to a rowboat in the hunting of the snark (didn't look this up there may not be one)

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ArianAce1234
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ScottyDo wrote:
ArianAce1234 wrote:
ScottyDo wrote:
i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."


This poem was looked at by us before, but I just now looked over it and found some interesting invofmation. "His answer trickled through my head, like water through a sieve". His answer is extremely long, but... perhaps there is more to the answer than we can see? (there seems to be a link to him selling butterfly mutton-pies to men on stormy seas, and the sea-goers hunting the snark? It may just be bal menutia but... I figured it was an interesting lead.) Thanks for this post!

Edit: have you guys realized that it's a two part question? and only one part is ever answered? the white knight asks who the man is and how it is he makes a living. but, the man only tells what he does. perhaps the answer is who the man is! but how on earth would we figure that out? it's never mentioned! Unless the question is directed at Lewis Carroll, who apparently is our puzzle maker, right? maybe the answer is O.O.L.?hmm. hope this helps you guys!

Edit #2: no luck with O.O.L. but, another thought crossed my mind. Remember how his sign off at the end of his last code was the main hint? the drunk comment? and it was the drunken sailor song? Well, the end of this one says "one other laboring upon the waves of rapture". I think we're completely omitting that. just a thought. we'll figure this out sooooon!


I did think about that a little too but i got caught up in the poem. Maybe someone laboring on the way to rapture could point to a rowboat in the hunting of the snark (didn't look this up there may not be one)


so in a weird way, you're saying that the snark is rapture? hmm, interesting. and he does have that particular book. so that's very possible. And in the book, the page it's open to is the map, and he's saying it's like a map to rapture, even though it's blank. so, we have to find the snark with a blank map... oh, here's an idea. perhaps the old man he was referring to was actually in the snark book? perhaps the main character?

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ArianAce1234 wrote:
ScottyDo wrote:
i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."


This poem was looked at by us before, but I just now looked over it and found some interesting invofmation. "His answer trickled through my head, like water through a sieve". His answer is extremely long, but... perhaps there is more to the answer than we can see? (there seems to be a link to him selling butterfly mutton-pies to men on stormy seas, and the sea-goers hunting the snark? It may just be bal menutia but... I figured it was an interesting lead.) Thanks for this post!

Edit: have you guys realized that it's a two part question? and only one part is ever answered? the white knight asks who the man is and how it is he makes a living. but, the man only tells what he does. perhaps the answer is who the man is! but how on earth would we figure that out? it's never mentioned! Unless the question is directed at Lewis Carroll, who apparently is our puzzle maker, right? maybe the answer is O.O.L.?hmm. hope this helps you guys!

Edit #2: no luck with O.O.L. but, another thought crossed my mind. Remember how his sign off at the end of his last code was the main hint? the drunk comment? and it was the drunken sailor song? Well, the end of this one says "one other laboring upon the waves of rapture". I think we're completely omitting that. just a thought. we'll figure this out sooooon!


I don't think the old man is ever given a name, but I think he's refered to as the man on the gate somewhere (not sure where I saw that). Not sure that helps, either.

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ArianAce1234
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343GuiltySpark wrote:
ArianAce1234 wrote:
ScottyDo wrote:
i found this excerpt from a lewis carroll poem and it looks like this might hold the answer for the box

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."


This poem was looked at by us before, but I just now looked over it and found some interesting invofmation. "His answer trickled through my head, like water through a sieve". His answer is extremely long, but... perhaps there is more to the answer than we can see? (there seems to be a link to him selling butterfly mutton-pies to men on stormy seas, and the sea-goers hunting the snark? It may just be bal menutia but... I figured it was an interesting lead.) Thanks for this post!

Edit: have you guys realized that it's a two part question? and only one part is ever answered? the white knight asks who the man is and how it is he makes a living. but, the man only tells what he does. perhaps the answer is who the man is! but how on earth would we figure that out? it's never mentioned! Unless the question is directed at Lewis Carroll, who apparently is our puzzle maker, right? maybe the answer is O.O.L.?hmm. hope this helps you guys!

Edit #2: no luck with O.O.L. but, another thought crossed my mind. Remember how his sign off at the end of his last code was the main hint? the drunk comment? and it was the drunken sailor song? Well, the end of this one says "one other laboring upon the waves of rapture". I think we're completely omitting that. just a thought. we'll figure this out sooooon!


I don't think the old man is ever given a name, but I think he's refered to as the man on the gate somewhere (not sure where I saw that). Not sure that helps, either.


I suggested that the two books were related, mainly the white knight's poem and the hunting of the snark. So, I was thinking that the main character of the hunting of the snark, "the boots", was the old man in the poem. idk, just a thought.

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It seems the speaker forgets the answers as they are told (or does not believe them), and although the first set appear to have the most to do with what we are scrutinizing (sailors, the sea, etc.), we might not want to discount the rest of the poem out of hand yet..... Man this is fun! Here is the text in its entirety:

The White Knight's Song



I'll tell thee everything I can:
There's little to relate.
I saw an aged, aged man,
A-sitting on a gate.

"Who are you, aged man?" I said.
"And how is it you live?"
And his answer trickled through my head,
Like water through a sieve.
He said, "I look for butterflies
That sleep among the wheat:
I make them into mutton-pies,
And sell them in the street.
I sell them unto men," he said,
"Who sail on stormy seas;
And that's the way I get my bread--
A trifle, if you please."

But I was thinking of a plan
To dye one's whiskers green,
And always use so large a fan
That it could not be seen.
So having no reply to give
To what the old man said,
I cried, "Come, tell me how you live!"
And thumped him on the head.

His accents mild took up the tale;
He said, "I go my ways,
And when I find a mountain-rill,
I set it in a blaze;
And thence they make a stuff they call
Rowland's Macassar Oil--
Yet twopence-halfpenny is all
They give me for my toil."

But I was thinking of a way
To feed oneself on batter,
And so go on from day to day
Getting a little fatter.
I shook him well from side to side,
Until his face was blue:
"Come, tell me how you live," I cried,
"And what it is you do!"

He said, "I hunt for haddocks' eyes
Among the heather bright,
And work them into waistcoat-buttons
In the silent night.
And these I do not sell for gold
Or coin of silvery shine,
But for a copper halfpenny,
And that will purchase nine.

"I sometimes dig for buttered rolls,
Or set limed twigs for crabs:
I sometimes search the grassy knolls
For wheels of Hansom-cabs.
And that's the way" (he gave a wink)
"By which I get my wealth--
And very gladly will I drink
Your Honour's noble health."

I heard him then, for I had just
Completed my design
To keep the Menai bridge from rust
By boiling it in wine.
I thanked him much for telling me
The way he got his wealth,
But chiefly for his wish that he
Might drink my noble health.

And now, if e'er by chance I put
My fingers into glue,
Or madly squeeze a right-hand foot
Into a left-hand shoe,
Or if I drop upon my toe
A very heavy weight,
I weep, for it reminds me so
Of that old man I used to know--
Whose look was mild, whose speech was slow
Whose hair was whiter than the snow,
Whose face was very like a crow,
With eyes, like cinders, all aglow,
Who seemed distracted with his woe,
Who rocked his body to and fro,
And muttered mumblingly and low,
As if his mouth were full of dough,
Who snorted like a buffalo--
That summer evening long ago,
A-sitting on a gate.

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this is so frustrating it feels like we are so close

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ScottyDo wrote:
this is so frustrating it feels like we are so close


No joke Scotty - my fear is that they haven't updated the box, and we've already gotten the correct answer, but it won't "work" until the update occurs! THAT would suck. Shocked

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