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[SPEC] What does this have to do with Halo 2? The Connection
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DeceptaconS
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[SPEC] What does this have to do with Halo 2? The Connection

check out this theory. It's super good. I Just Hope its wrong.

Subject: Halo 2 Theory (involving www.ilovebees.com) -Please Read-



I figured my theories need to be canonized and posted somewhere where all can read. They get lost in the other topic, which, at this moment, has surpassed 300 pages.

If you haven't kept up-to-date with all of the stuff on www.ilovebees.com, this might confuse you. Hang in there.

The Flood and Varrao Mites

I'm sure you've all noticed a particular sound that plays as you access the page titled "the Hive". With some help, I've found out something interesting. That sound is the sound a queen bee makes. Not only that, but the queen bee only makes this sound when she is trapped. The sound is a call for her bees to come and protect her, and she only makes this noise when her life is in danger. Sound familiar? It should. It's the same general message relayed through the scattered texts around the site. Trapped...endangered...all alone...

Second, on the "honey" page, Aunt M. tells us she can't produce more honey at the moment due to an infection of "varrao mites". (Note: I have noticed alternate spellings of this mite. One is spelled 'varrao', the other 'varroa', although they appear to be the same mite.)

On further inspection, the mites seem to have some characteristics that ring a bell. They attach onto their chosen host and cause deformities, eventually resulting in death. Another effect of these destructive mites is "queenlessness". In other words, these mites cause the colony to be without a leader. This sounds like something we're familiar with, doesn't it? Think Captain Keyes and the Flood.

It has become clear that the varrao mites are an integral part of this puzzle. Whoever narrarates the texts throughout the site speaks often of an eight-legged creature. This creature steals the narrator's thoughts. The narrator then goes on to say he or she has become a monster. It's all in the texts.

I have come to believe that this eight-legged creature is none other than a Flood infection form. I also believe the infection form is too similar to the varrao mite to be purely coincidental. See for yourself. The similarities don't just stop with text. The varrao mite even looks like a Flood infection form. Don't believe me? Check it out:

Varroa Mites look like the Flood

Three Swords

From what I gather, there are three "swords" present in this evolving story. Each sword is harnessed by a different race and used to combat the Flood. The swords, while not literally being a sword in the Halo Universe, have historical ties.

Cortana is the first, and most obvious sword. The well-known AI is used by the humans as a weapon against the Flood. Not only this, but Cortana is the name of a literal sword, part of Charlemagne's tale. When the sword struck, it dealt a fatal blow.

There are two other swords present in Charlemagne's tale. We'll get to that soon enough.

The second sword is Dana, who you all know to be the creator of www.ilovebees.com . Her site, and her, in a way, are being harnessed by the Covenant. As I said, the varrao mites are key. These mites, a.k.a. the Flood, have affected the Covenant far worse than they have us. It is possible they have infected a Prophet. I'm not clear on all of this just yet, but it seems that Dana is a way for the Covenant to communicate their cries for help. They are in more danger than us Humans are.

In Charlemagne's tale, the second sword is named Durandal, which is a name I'm sure most of you are familiar with. Durandal is sometimes referred to as Durandana.

Cortana and Durandana are both AIs. I can only assume the third and final sword is also an AI.

Two swords, two races. We are left with one more.

I quickly gathered that the Forerunner were the final race. It seemed obvious enough that the Halos were the tools they used to combat the Flood. However, I then realized the "sword" itself has to be a single entity. Another AI would make sense.

Sticking with the story of Charlemagne, one final blade remains. Joyeuse, the sword which the King used himself, has to be the last sword in this puzzle. Harnessed by the Forerunner, Joyeuse is an AI related to the Halos, which they use in order to defeat the Flood.

Although the AI Joyeuse remains to be seen, I am considering the idea that it might be a higher AI than 343 Guilty Spark. Perhaps it is one that governs over the entire network of Halos. Whatever the role Joyeuse the AI plays, it is surely an important one.

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Well that's it. Thanks for reading, and if you think you know something that could add to my theory, please share. Even if you have some evidence that disproves it, you are welcome to share that.

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Max Damage
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I don't even know where to start here, but..

Trout

This is the biggest trout I've ever seen.

Sorry - all these theories are old, and have been disproved or are so unlikely that they're not worthy of consideration.

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But link, Max Damage, link!

I suppose when my headache subsides I'll try to find the relavant info.

Luke P.

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Max Damage wrote:
they're not worthy of consideration.


Or being canonized even Wink
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chaotic_mind wrote:
But link, Max Damage, link!

I suppose when my headache subsides I'll try to find the relavant info.

Luke P.


I must say that I would need a link as well, Because I did a search using these words "Halo 2 connnection"

I don't want to Flame or in turn get Flamed, However, since we don't know Durga's real Name. Then, what if..... and this is possible, But what if Durga's real name is "Joyeuse" or something very close to that. Then everything I said would be on the money.

At least 80% of it makes Sense and you have got to admit that the Varroa Mites look just like the Flood. Only a person who has read the Halo Books, Played the Halo videogame and thourghly researches everything about the ARG = ILB site, would come to this type of conclusion.

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Well, a cursory search didn't seem to come up with much, though I know this has been discussed before, though mostly before my time.

As to the varroa mites looking like Flood, well...I'd have to say, that really, there's not enough evidence to suggest a connection. I think the floodicles were meant to look insectile, since most people have such a reaction to that sort of thing.

Further, there has been no EXPLICIT mention of flood through out this game. Such a subtle mention seems less like evidence of what ilovebees really means, and more a nod to Halo players, if even that.

The eight-legged creature is probably the SPDR. The SPDR seems to be refered to metaphorically as a Spider, or as a Widow by the Princess. The SPDR's purpose is to recollect the shattered fragments of Melissa.

The only thing that really could be a flood would be the Pious Flea (which is an arachnid like the mite, and the spider), but the Flea connects much more strongly in my mind to the Covenant.

Further, the capture of Captain Keyes hardly left the human survivors on Halo leaderless. We still have Master Chief, Cortana, Silva, and Wellesley.
There is nothing (that I can find, Max Damage, you might be able to do better then me) that EXPRESSLY invalidates this speculation. It just seems too far out there.

Luke P.

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chaotic_mind wrote:
As to the varroa mites looking like Flood, well...I'd have to say, that really, there's not enough evidence to suggest a connection. I think the floodicles were meant to look insectile, since most people have such a reaction to that sort of thing.


Actually, if you check out the picture on this site, it really does look similar to one of the little floodlings in Halo.

(edited to fix URL - krystyn)

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I don't know. It also looks like every mite I've seen. Wink

I think it may a be a matter of interpretation, but it just doesn't fit for me.

Luke P.

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I think the mite infesting this bee would be Flea.

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GunsmithCat wrote:
I think the mite infesting this bee would be Flea.


And there has been a while spec about it being a "flood" AI. I know, doesn't really work but....

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i think the varrao mites were a nice little red herring, and a way for the writers to explain why Aunt M can't sell her honey right now (imagine the logistics if she could!)

people seem to forget that the mite infection is NOT one of Mellisa's metaphors, its a real physical problem that is plagueing Margaret's Honey, it was there before the corruption, and even Dana acknowledges it

so going from that... the current theory is that the flood "evolved" from present day microscopic bugs from Earth called varrao mites? that's... a little out there... it just doesn't seem to fit with the rest of this ARG (not to mention Halo in general)... i want ALOT more proof
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voices at hive site

does any one else hear voices in the sound that plays when you first get to the hive site. It kinda sounds like a conversation is going on? if this has already been discussed could someone point me where to go? Thanks.

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Seems to me that this makes more sense than any of the other conjecture I have seen on these forums. It creates a pattern (Bungie is fond of patters, just look at thier level designs), and it gives the search direction (makes items easier to prove or disprove when you have a starting point). And for all of you screaming trout just remember that theories are created to be disproven. If you don't agree with it disprove it, don't flame it.

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Re: [SPEC] What does this have to do with Halo 2? The Connec

my comments in bold:
DeceptaconS wrote:


The Flood and Varrao Mites


It has become clear that the varrao mites are an integral part of this puzzle.
they were mentioned once on the original uncorupted site, then forgotten? why do you think this?
Whoever narrarates the texts
that's Mellisa, the Queen, the Operator.... we know who it is
throughout the site speaks often of an eight-legged creature. This creature steals the narrator's thoughts. The narrator then goes on to say he or she has become a monster. It's all in the texts.
old news, that was spider(SPDR), a repair program... cutting out old data, cutting off her emotions, making her a weapon

I have come to believe that this eight-legged creature is none other than a Flood infection form.
no, see above, not to mention that the fact that the Flood are physical creatures, and this drama all plays out between AI inside a computer
I also believe the infection form is too similar to the varrao mite to be purely coincidental. See for yourself. The similarities don't just stop with text. The varrao mite even looks like a Flood infection form. Don't believe me? Check it out:
Varroa Mites look like the Flood
that's great... but so what? you're connecting unrelated things with nothing to back it up... the mites have attacked Aunt M's hives in real life... the SPDR/spider/widow (who you've gotten COMPLETELY wrong) erased some of Mellisa's memories.... therefore.... the mites are the Flood????? wha----? take a logic class sometime dude

Three Swords

here you have some interesting (if tenuous) Marathon/Halo connection spec... but it doesn't fit within the context of ILB



i really don't think you should follow this line of thought any further... the Flood/Mite connection was discussed to death the first week, and pretty much killed right away... there's alot more to be done on this ARG, i suggest turning your energy elsewhere
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I just started getting into this game, it's too bad there haven't been any axons around Cincinnati, I'd love to go out to one. Anyway, it makes sense that the Pious flea is part of the covenant, most likely some kind of virus that got into Earth's network and poisoned the queen (probably some kind of Skynetish AI) and thus found the location of earth. The pious flea also wishes to assimilate other AI's in order to make it easier for the covenant to attack. Indeed it makes sense that the "Sleeping Princess" is some kind of countermeasure against this sort of infection, she spies on the queen and the pious flea so she probably is reporting what is happening to someone somewhere. I dunno, a lot of this is confusing and I hate waiting for the game to play out because I wanna know what's going on, but I figured I would throw in my 2 cents even though it's probably been said and discussed before.

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