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jaeger138
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We also have to consider a second TEDO. Mabe 'other dimension' TEDO weren't succesful in creating the Donar'tnel and stole them from our world TEDO. Now our world TEDO want them back. But it's all just speculation. I agree that we should be sceptical that another party is ivolved, but I don't think we should rule anything out just yet until we get some more info. Let's hope Eve, OP or Binsakne reply to my last messages ad we can see what's going on.

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Abraxas
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Ok, from here on out I am going to refer to person/group X from our dimension as ThisX and in the other case as ThatX. You may do the same, if you like it. Smile

bluesylvia wrote:

FeGrwl

Laughing
Hehe, those words are very easy to confuse. That's The Thanks. It's FeGrelw, The Watcher(s).

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How I see it is the black stones were stolen from TEDO by someone else. Someone who obviously knows their power and who is trying to stir up trouble for some reason.


Yeah, I would agree with that. You already listed a bunch of reasons why it doesn't make sense that TEDO is behind what happened at the hospital. But as Jaeger just said, it might be the other TEDO.

First I thought, the stone is used for safe passage from one dimension into the other and TEDO are stranded here with us now that they don't have one. But then they couldn't have brought his family to the hospital. Unless it wasn't TEDO and whoever it was tries really hard to frame them for it. Sending those messages to OP. I guess there was enough time for it, as OP seems to have been forced to camp out on the mountain, but I still wonder about how fast they located his family.
Up until the mountain they didn't know about him at all, right? Or not right? I tried to imply to OP that he may have been tracked before, back when I didn't grasp the whole story. But I'm quite sure that was never said anywhere.

I guess what I'm saying is that I still believe that the stone is way to travel between dimensions. I think ThisEve was slipped the stone at some point and she switched dimensions because of that. I think OP was given the stone to do the same. But that raises the question...

...whoever gave OP the stone, is it someone we know? I even wrote to him that we are sure it is someone we know. Because he gave OP the cipher alphabet. The same that Tylean or Abie have given ThatEve. But now, I have my doubts. That person might have been the Big Bad. They stole the stone from TEDO, then gave it to OP. Afterwards sent those messages to OP to implicate TEDO. All of this towards the end of getting OP to cross over to ThatEarth. We cannot even guess why OP is important in whatever plan, but I guess he is.

I realise, it doesn't make a lot of sense to assume that ThisEve was slipped the stone a couple days ago when she started to cross over. She never looked into her handbag?

As for the logo:
The dots and dashes that modify a letter represent a different phonetic. That mostly worked out, although some cases were easier to justify than others. The same doesn't have to be true for this logo. Don't have any ideas as of now.

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bluesylvia
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Abraxas wrote:
bluesylvia wrote:

FeGrwl
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Hehe, those words are very easy to confuse. That's The Thanks. It's FeGrelw, The Watcher(s).


Ahah, thanks for catching that. I shouldn't post when I'm still asleep.

I don't believe they knew of him before the mountain visit. After all, why should they? It doesn't seem like there is anything special about him. He was just a timid family man before all this. And now he's storming the Isle and is probably gonna get himself in a ton of trouble...

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Because I have nothing better to do with my time I've kept Gmail open.
TEDO is currently online but busy.
Their busy status?
"Busy, uniting the worlds"
Hmm...

Also, received a reply from TEDO:
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We see that you are one of the old Lorsham.

The Novitiate Books were destroyed when your TEDO failed in its duties. The Tylean and the Tnem'Abie destroyed their headquarters. Now we have taken over, but we cannot find the Novitiate Books. This means that we do not know why you were let out of the headquarters before your training was over. Why did you survive where your brothers and sisters did not?

Do you have your Donar'tnel? If so, you may be able to travel to meet with us and resume your training.

Bilvin


So I believe we're now dealing with a "ThatTEDO." Looks like ThisTEDO were destroyed.
Well, at least they don't know about my messy past with ThisTEDO, eh? Wink

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bluesylvia wrote:
I don't believe they knew of him before the mountain visit. After all, why should they? It doesn't seem like there is anything special about him. He was just a timid family man before all this. And now he's storming the Isle and is probably gonna get himself in a ton of trouble...


Remember the videos OP was sent? They said something about him being found because of what he knows didn't they? There must be a reason he's involved.

Also, I'm trying to infiltrate TEDO. Had some contact with them that may spread some light on their motives.

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We are not taking Lorsham from your reality at present. We are consolidating the rift between realities. Once this is complete, we will begin to take over your reality also. We have destroyed the Tnem'Abie and the Tylean in our reality. Yours will not be any different. They are weak.

The TEDO at the hospital have not informed us of you. We will tell them to investigate your claims.

Bilvin Mr Jaeger, we will contact you when the training begins anew, if you are still alive.


I replied telling them I have contact with you and can infiltrate your ranks. Any information you want fed to them (lies of course) let me know. I hope this will stall their plans. There ARE TEDO at the hospital, they are other ThatReality, they are attempting to join the dimensions and they are goig to kill Abie and Tylean. Troublesome indeed!

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Ahhh sorry to be totally spamming the boards today, guys! Embarassed
I received an important email from Binsakne just now, titled "I have been watching the time areas."

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I have been watching the timelines and timeareas. You are meddling with events again, which brings me much comfort despite your collective inexperience. I am grateful that none of you have tried to contact me as I am very busy with the Work of Time at present. However, I must take the time to inform you that if events are allowed to unfold, Tylean and Tnem'Abie will perish.

Please reunite them with their stones as soon as possible. They will improve shortly afterward and be able to guide you.

Tell them the rift must be closed.

Tell them there are those among you that cannot be trusted, there are those who lurk behind the shadows who would claim victory for their own. There are those among you who would like Tylean and Tnem'Abie to be stranded in the other Time Realm.

I fear that I must be about the business of Time, but I will write to you when I can.

Bilvin


I guess Eve didn't think to pick up Abie and Tylean's things when they escaped. She (or someone) is going to need to get them quickly. It may explain their condition. Also maybe it explains why Rhea constantly avoided my questions asking where their things were and if we could come and collect them Wink

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Remember the videos OP was sent? They said something about him being found because of what he knows didn't they? There must be a reason he's involved.

I took that to mean what he had picked up from his video camera. But maybe there is more to it.
Troubling to know ThatTEDO is in the hospital. It's not going to make retrieving the Per'tnels easy.

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I'm worried still that Eve can't be trusted. She was in the hospital, I trust people on the boards aren't leaking info and yet we're still being told there's someone amongst us with ill intentions. Who? Someone on the boards? OP? The Eves? ThisRhea and her family? We need to find out who the mole is and cut them off as soon as we can. If it's Eve we're in trouble.

Maybe OP stole the stone. Maybe he isn't telling us everything. I don't know. I still have high suspicions of Eve and I really think that she's a liability. I would suggest getting as much as we can out of her and telling her little as possible.

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jaeger138 wrote:
bluesylvia wrote:
I don't believe they knew of him before the mountain visit. After all, why should they? It doesn't seem like there is anything special about him. He was just a timid family man before all this. And now he's storming the Isle and is probably gonna get himself in a ton of trouble...


Remember the videos OP was sent? They said something about him being found because of what he knows didn't they? There must be a reason he's involved.


Because they think he has their stone. That's my guess, in no way confirmed, but whatever was taken from them, they think he has it. And they are right, if it is the black stone.
Unless there is more in the videos, that I missed.

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There ARE TEDO at the hospital, they are other ThatReality, they are attempting to join the dimensions and they are goig to kill Abie and Tylean. Troublesome indeed!


Hmm, if you are saying, they are yet another TEDO...I am not sure about that. It could be the group they keep at the hospital. But, certainly, there could be any amount of different dimensions at this point. I hope it's just the two, that will be relevant.

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no, I meant ThatTEDO have people at the hospital and as far as we know ThisTEDO are no more. ThatTEDO are trying to kill Abie and Tylean and merge the dimensions according to what they said to me. Hopefully they can give me some more info on their plans.

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bluesylvia wrote:
Here's what I hear:
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This is not the right place.
The Great One said it'd be different.
He said there would be light and warmth!
Maybe something went wrong.
I hate it when he gets the (??durma??) wrong.

Perhaps you need more patience, my young friend.

Who are you?


I really don't know how this fits in. Is that OP talking, then the old man? There is definitely things he didn't tell us if that's him.
Oh, and could the "durma" be "time"? Or does that sound completely different? Sorry, I still can't listen to any of those videos on here. Crying or Very sad

@jaeger
Oh, sorry then! Actually, that was my first thought, having ThoseEarths. Laughing But then I remembered, I hate this idea.
Anyway, I am confused about ThisTEDO being no more. They posted on the blog that they survived. Or did ThatTEDO wipe them out? Or is the blog run by ThatTEDO, now?
Confused

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Lol, this is all awfully complicated. I think from what they told blue, ThisTEDO were wiped out in the last game. I believe that all TEDO are now ThatTEDO. Maybe we should wait for blue to explain though, lol.

EDIT: Been listening to the first video again and I think 'Great One' and 'Durma' are both wrong. I don't know, it just doesn't sound right. I'm doing what I can.

Maybe 'Durma' is tuner? As in:

'I hate it when he gets the tuner wrong!'

Just a suggestion.

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I've been trying to find more information on the Donar'tnel and came across some information that I had previously forgotten 110% from an IRC chat with Abie.

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AbieTheTime: what usually happens is that a forgiving person will say: indeed a duel is required, yet I see your heart is purified, there is not debt to collect
AbieTheTime: plus beheading an unarmed man or woman is considered impolite
Abraxas: that is good to know
AbieTheTime: Wink
amandel: which type of swords do your people favor,Abie?
AbieTheTime: it all depends on taste amandel
AbieTheTime: Tylean prefers the blades he forges himself
AbieTheTime: I prefer the japanese single-edge through-hardened blades
Abraxas: does everyone only have to fashion their own tnel or do they actually have to learn it by themselves?
AbieTheTime: The TEDO usually forge their own with the aid of the Donar'tnel
AbieTheTime: But swords are rarely used, they are more symbolic and ceremonial

There is a word in the Language: Janfaltrom. It is used to say "I'm sorry" but literally means "A duel is needed." Perhaps Rhea was apologizing for something during the time of the murder. After all, she was unarmed and beheaded.
Or she could have just been brutally murdered. You know, whichever.

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Assuming the dots/dash phonetics rule still applies, I have this for the logo

Code:

  DD
ADAAAE
D?DEFE
  AA


Note that we can identify letters A, D, E and F. Then there is one unfamiliar character. And that's it. It's four out of the six first characters. Possibly five.

Could be digits, maybe. If the Language uses 10 digits, it would make sense if the first five characters are used, once without, once with dot/dash. But the F ruins this pattern. It's possible, that one out of the first six characters is left out and the count correctly goes to five characters used. But it just seems like an impractical system to me. The alternative is a base 12 system. Laughing
Or a good explanation for leaving one out. Maybe a letter that can't be pronounced differently. But I think that applies to both B and F, doesn't it?

Next problem...is it without then with dot/dash one after another? Or first all without, then those with dot/dash?
I'd say alternating, those without dot/dash are even digits, those with dot/dash are odd digits.

And then what?
I would assume the logo spells TEDO. There are 16 characters. Four character would encode one letter. I have no idea how. I am probably very wrong about this.


Exclamation
We got our section! Thanks jamesi! Very Happy

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Either way, there's not a lot of sense in this thing as far I see it so far. Unless we know what it means it doesn't mean anything...if you kow what I mean.

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@Abraxas: In regard to your theory on the logo thread (thought I'd post here to keep things together) I wonder if the two outer circles may represent the dimensions and the center the TEDO or their goal? We know they're trying to merge the realms and that the Don'artnel may be the key to passing between realms.

It's just my interpretation of the image, my only other thought was that there is a third central realm but there's nothing so far to indicate that.

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