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jaeger138
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But didn't the original coordinates show up in the ocean and it turned out the Island was shaped differently? So it could be underwater (which sounds a little too James Bond to me) or just a piece of land or another Island that does't exist in the This? I'm sorry my memory is so bad and I wasn't really invilved in the clompass, it was over my head tbh.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:56 pm
AUZ505
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jaeger138 wrote:
But didn't the original coordinates show up in the ocean and it turned out the Island was shaped differently? So it could be underwater (which sounds a little too James Bond to me) or just a piece of land or another Island that does't exist in the This? I'm sorry my memory is so bad and I wasn't really invilved in the clompass, it was over my head tbh.
No the original coordinates from the clompass were on the island. I first made a misinterpretation but immediately corrected (assuming the Pm made a small error) it.
Here the post:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28288&start=121
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:18 pm
jaeger138
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Oooooooooooohhhhh, now i get it! OK, thanks for that guys. Think I'm pretty up to speed clompass wise now.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:16 pm
zephusdragon
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I seem to be very good at starting an idea but never coming to a finale. Well I'm glad you guys could do something with my idea, makes feel at least a little useful.
Edit: actually there IS 04 in the set if you read the 54 going straight down and then the 04 going straight across... Granted that leaves a HUGE decimal going left-right...
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:42 pm
jaeger138
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I'm not so sure about the 'coordinates over the sea' theory anymore actually. I'm pretty sure we're looking for the rift as OP said he found the lair already and it was destroyed, so why would we be on a chase for that?
If it's a rift, how likely is it that it's over the ocean?
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You are correct, Abie my dear,
Yet more than this they should not fear.
They have travelled many roads,
And have taken upon them many loads.
West and East then North and South
If they but hear the words of my mouth.
Then North and South and West and East
They may yet find the passage at least.
I'm guessing this 'passage' is the rift and Abie said "They don't know the orientations!", so maybe we're reading the logo slightly wrong. I'm not good with these coordinates but to those who are try looking at the numbers in the logo in a different way, maybe up to down or something. That's the only thing I can think of when she says orientation.
But also, the poem says 'West and East, then North and South' so maybe that's an indication of some way of reading it, or even 'Then North and South and West and East'. I hope I did something to help you number people and I hope I'm not too far off in my theories.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:01 pm
zephusdragon
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OP only found the TEDO base in ThisWorld, it was destroyed. If the TEDO are big in ThatWorld, they have more than enough funds and power to be somewhere else, even underwater or on an oil platform...
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:04 pm
jaeger138
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I agree, but like I said, I don't know that we're looking for a base. ThatTEDO themselves said that their Evandale chapter was totalled in the volcanic eruption that caused so much havoc at the hospital and was the sunject of the first vid.
I#m just going off what I've got, and from Tylean's message it looks like he and Abie are saying we're slightly off on this.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:07 pm
Shiny
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Blue twisted my arm and says I have to post my idea. The idea being we read the symbol the way it's said in the poem. From left to right then top to bottom.
Then maybe in reverse.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:35 pm
zephusdragon
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Okay here's my best drawing of the Venn Diagram with our numbers...
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:09 am
kobrosti
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Maybe the coordinates on the sea are correct?
And the rift is an Oil platform, and the platform got destroyed??
You guys want me to ask something about the logo to OP? I still have a good reputation:P
If you want me to do, give me a link with the logo ( wich doesnt say forums.unfiction. Then he might see me as a traitor? )
grz
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:13 am
Abraxas
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AUZ tried it yesterday in chat. The N to S, then W to E thing. He also tried to take W to E first on the outside then on the inside of the smaller circles. And I tried left part first, then right part of those circles.
It's possible that the notation in decimal degree rather than those hour-minute-second notation is used. But even then, you still take a splash in the ocean.
Any way you do it, you end up in the water. And I still think that's exactly where you are supposed to end up. The new clue does nothing to change this opinion. In fact, it sounds like proof to me.
It's very close to the Isle of Man, the 54 and 04 for lat and long, respectively, work out far too nicely (with the poem, specifically) for it to be wrong. Just my view on this.
I guess we are supposed to deliver these coordinates to ThatEve and let her tell Tylean and Abie?
In this case, I suggest taking those from N to S (in the green circle) in order and those from W to E (smaller circles), also in order.
By the way, why do we think this is the location of the rift? It's the TEDO logo. Doesn't that mean the coordinates must be related to them? Their outpost?
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:13 pm
jaeger138
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The reason I thought it was the rift was because ThatTEDO's outpost was destroyed in the volcanic eruption at Evandale North, so we couldn't have been looking for a totalled lair. Also, due to new evidence it looks like these coordinates may be false, as ThisEve has asked for help with the map and ThatTEDO themselves stated they planted a false one as they knew ThisEve would betray them.
Looks like we're waiting on this info about the Beacon
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:40 pm
Abraxas
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Yeah, I knew I lost sight of what's happening.
ThatEve wrote:
Abie said something else: "Tell them to follow straight the grassy path. They can then build the bridge across."
grassy path = green path = green circle = take only numbers in green circle
build bridge across = numbers from left circle then number from right circle
Which, of course, leads to the fake coordinates. But now that we are told it's fake before we solved it, I don't see the freaking point here. Other than it's not entirely fake and can be reconstructed. Because if that's not the case, this puzzle was completely useless or was given up on by the PM.
We should have just sent ThatEve the coordinates we got yesterday, I guess.
Edit: I sent Eve the coordinates. OOG, we are apparently supposed to solve this, why else would we get those clues. No matter if it's fake. It will just move on from there. Magically.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:54 pm
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jaeger138
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Aww, sorry Abraxas and all others who worked so hard on this one. We should have been given that info earlier really, we would have never solved it without the last message. I feel bad for you guys, you did work! But, don't discount the new coordinates, I'm asking ThatEve to tweet ThisEve to send us everything she needs help solving, it could be that she has another fake map and what we have is genuine. This could even be the beacon clue!
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:05 pm
Abraxas
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That's not it. I just ask myself why we need to solve it if it's fake. I mean, ThisEve is already there, as I understand. It must be a plot vehicle.
But yeah, we pretty much just dismissed it in chat. Or rather, I didn't outright dismiss it, but somehow forgot to let anyone know.
(Here's the truth. I ate au gratin potatoes, which I should not have. I know it, but I tried it, maybe I have a psychological resistance to it? I almost forgot I can't take it well. Until I ate half of it and wasn't feeling too well. You can ask Blue. I signed off pretty quickly after that... But I was fine, it went away.)
I just remembered there was a symbol like this on Rhea Soutaine. Might this one have been the real one? Can ThatEve get her hands on some photos taken from the crime scene?
Oh, I sent the coordinates, just editing again as you may have missed it (and now miss it again...).
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:13 pm
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