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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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 		Re: cautionary
JDN wrote:
I would strongly suggest receiving something in return for full compilation and disclosure of what we know here. I would suggest specifically access to the alfa-tsentr site. if not for all of us at least for the person disclosing our info on the Junsui to the MoT/Dubrovin.
Why hand over all of our work without something in return? That just seems foolhearty to me.
If MoT are unwilling to grant access to their site, perhaps they would be more inclined to give intel that would help us access the Japanese New health site.
Also it may be prudent to keep at least something of value from the MoT as an ace in the hole should their traded info turn out to be useless.

p.s. I just moved to Tacoma heyoo!


I requested access to any contacts and to the leadership of Alfa-Tsenter in exchange to clearing up information at government levels regarding the DDOS attacks on FB, Twitter, and other internet sites, blamed on Alfa Tsentr.

So hopefully something comes of this.

P.S. I miss Tacompton.

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Ichi
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 		If he gets back to me I will inquire to it, I have my doubts I will even here a reply from him, i think its something someone less new to this as I am to send him that email, either way its late on the east coast, ill catch up with this in the morning

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JDN
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Ichi wrote:
Has anyone emailed Dubrovin asking anything about the black hundreds and what he knows about them. Several things here have pointed back to the black hundreds, maybe someone should ask, I have already inquired him as to the lyrics found in the now deleted myspace page of JJ.


I was on the Junsui myspace 5 min ago, its still up.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:30 am
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rash
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 		hi


,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1st:

livejournal
junko_junsui
August 26th, 23:13
)//&ltA class=sqq href="/invis54ible/freedom_is_n////4247hr////4410CKGROUND-COL//OR: ///lo434844-13OLOR:
bla///////"&gtFREEDOM IS NEVER VOL UNTARILY GI5VEN BY THE OPPRESSOR; IT MUST BE DEMANDED BY THE OPP///4///22&3359>&gt66u8u6t[.iOOjs

if:
&lt -->less than --> <gt>great than --> >
then (plus making sense):

<A>FREEDOM IS NEVER VOLUNTARILY GIVEN BY THE OPPRESSOR; IT MUST BE DEMANDED BY THE OPPRESSED></A>

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."
Martin Luther King Jr. , April 16, 1963
US black civil rights leader & clergyman (1929 - 1968)

"/invisible/freedom_is_near"
"near"
////4247hr////
if
starting point: August 26th, 23:13
time up: August 26th, 23:13 + 4247 hours

then
4247 Hours = 176.95833333333334 Days
4247 hours = (176 + 0.95) days

0.95 day = 22.8 hours = (22 + 0.Cool hours

starting point: August 26th, 23:13
+
176 days
+
22 hours
+
00:48 hours


first, clock reset:
August 27th, 00:00
-
August 26th, 23:13
=
00:47 hours left (take it from the 00:4Cool

now, count days.
starting august 27th 2009, 00:00:
aug (28, 29, 30, 31) = 4 days
sept = 30 days
oct = 31 days
nov = 30 days
dec = 31 days
jan = 31 days
feb = 28 days
total = 185 days
185 - 176 = 9 days

gives timeout day:
feb (28 - 9)th
=
feb 19th, 2010
=
feb 19th 2010, 00:00


take this day as a second starting point
and add the 22 hours an (00:48 - 00:47) hours
=
22:01

second starting point: feb 19th 2010, 00:00
+
22:01
=
feb 19th 2010, 22:01


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2nd:

August 26th, 3:46
WHAT SHALL WE DO FOR OUR SISTER IN THE DAY WHEN SHE SHALL BE SPOKEN FOR? IF SHE BE A WALL, WE WILL BUILD UPON HER A

PALA///43484413/CE OF// SILVER: AND IF SHE BE A DOOR/, WE////621 WILL INCLOSE HER WITH//00 BOARDS OF CEDAR. ))))

WHAT SHALL WE DO FOR OUR SISTER IN THE DAY WHEN SHE SHALL BE SPOKEN FOR? IF SHE BE A WALL, WE WILL BUILD UPON HER A

PALACE OF SILVER: AND IF SHE BE A DOOR, WE WILL INCLOSE HER WITH BOARDS OF CEDAR.

http://onlineparallelbible.com/songs/8.htm
Song of Solomon 8
The Lovers Speak

King James Bible
KJV collumn

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all this looks like jihad chanting to me

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 		We have all the links in one place now, except for the T-shirt thing and the music videos. I was going to grab some more info for Dubrovin. Is there anything we need? I think we should send him some of the threats or enigmatic things that The Junsui have said, even though he probably already knows about them. For the sake of completeness at least. The one thing I don't think should be sent to him was the thing about Rhea's location. He is associated with Alfa-Tsentr, after all, at least by extension. I think letting him know that we've been looking into where his allies are supposedly (he's denied this) holding her would be tipping our hand. I think that would be a bad move. What's left, though? We need more than a list of links.

Also if anyone's hating the game right now, I would have to recommend chatting with some of The Junsui's followers, or themselves even if they'll respond (IG as it were). It's not terribly informative, but it's pretty fun. Fun seems to be something this game is in need of.

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BooleanEarth wrote:
I think letting him know that we've been looking into where his allies are supposedly (he's denied this) holding her would be tipping our hand.


Actually that's kind of stupid, now that I think about it. He probably already knows, considering how blurred the line between IG and OOG is. We know The Junsui can read Unfiction, it seems reasonable to assume that Dubrovin would be versed in our postings as well. If that's the case, though, her location info is still useless to him as he would already know we found it. Actually if we assume that's the case all of the information would be useless until we find something new. Ugh...the contact between IG and OOG has made things confusing.

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BooleanEarth wrote:
BooleanEarth wrote:
I think letting him know that we've been looking into where his allies are supposedly (he's denied this) holding her would be tipping our hand.


Actually that's kind of stupid, now that I think about it. He probably already knows, considering how blurred the line between IG and OOG is. We know The Junsui can read Unfiction, it seems reasonable to assume that Dubrovin would be versed in our postings as well. If that's the case, though, her location info is still useless to him as he would already know we found it. Actually if we assume that's the case all of the information would be useless until we find something new. Ugh...the contact between IG and OOG has made things confusing.


i think that is over thinking it. Even though it hasn't worked out in the past, I don't think this game is playable unless we force ourselves to think of Dubrovin's IG and OOG personas as seperate, and therefore assume that, to Dubrovin, this site doesn't exist. After all the person operating MoT and Junsui are assumably one and the same OOG.

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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BooleanEarth wrote:
We have all the links in one place now, except for the T-shirt thing and the music videos. I was going to grab some more info for Dubrovin. Is there anything we need? I think we should send him some of the threats or enigmatic things that The Junsui have said, even though he probably already knows about them. For the sake of completeness at least. The one thing I don't think should be sent to him was the thing about Rhea's location. He is associated with Alfa-Tsentr, after all, at least by extension. I think letting him know that we've been looking into where his allies are supposedly (he's denied this) holding her would be tipping our hand. I think that would be a bad move. What's left, though? We need more than a list of links.

Also if anyone's hating the game right now, I would have to recommend chatting with some of The Junsui's followers, or themselves even if they'll respond (IG as it were). It's not terribly informative, but it's pretty fun. Fun seems to be something this game is in need of.


Just some insight from the intelligence community... It would be bad on Dubrovin's part if we really thought we weren't looking into Alfa-Tsentr as well... Let alone their location.... Even here working joint operations, it's common knowledge that we collect on the British, the Australians, and everyone else... Let alone that they collect on us. It's just how politics and international intelligence communities work. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Don't play MoT or Alfa Tsentr for stupid. intelligence drives the mission.

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:
BooleanEarth wrote:
We have all the links in one place now, except for the T-shirt thing and the music videos. I was going to grab some more info for Dubrovin. Is there anything we need? I think we should send him some of the threats or enigmatic things that The Junsui have said, even though he probably already knows about them. For the sake of completeness at least. The one thing I don't think should be sent to him was the thing about Rhea's location. He is associated with Alfa-Tsentr, after all, at least by extension. I think letting him know that we've been looking into where his allies are supposedly (he's denied this) holding her would be tipping our hand. I think that would be a bad move. What's left, though? We need more than a list of links.

Also if anyone's hating the game right now, I would have to recommend chatting with some of The Junsui's followers, or themselves even if they'll respond (IG as it were). It's not terribly informative, but it's pretty fun. Fun seems to be something this game is in need of.


Just some insight from the intelligence community... It would be bad on Dubrovin's part if we really thought we weren't looking into Alfa-Tsentr as well... Let alone their location.... Even here working joint operations, it's common knowledge that we collect on the British, the Australians, and everyone else... Let alone that they collect on us. It's just how politics and international intelligence communities work. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Don't play MoT or Alfa Tsentr for stupid. intelligence drives the mission.


Very good point and, I think, very true in this situation.

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 		Technically speaking, uF is OOG (out of game) so characters should NOT be reading any threads in here. Do not assume that.

I know the PM has broken that unspoken philosophy, but the PM has not had any characters post in here (which would be a violation of the ToS).

I would suggest continuing to go along with the idea that characters cannot access uF.
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konamouse wrote:
Technically speaking, uF is OOG (out of game) so characters should NOT be reading any threads in here. Do not assume that.

I know the PM has broken that unspoken philosophy, but the PM has not had any characters post in here (which would be a violation of the ToS).

I would suggest continuing to go along with the idea that characters cannot access uF.


Exactly. All MoT and A-T "knows" is that a collective of us exist and that we have information that they don't. End of story. Let's keep it that way :]

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Deiwos
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rash wrote:
Stuff


This is awesome! I knew something could be made of this stuff, I just also knew I wasn't smart enough to do so. Laughing Even if it seems random and non-useful, it may be otherwise, so all information is nice to have on hand at least. Any idea if 43484413/621/00 means anything?

Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:

Exactly. All MoT and A-T "knows" is that a collective of us exist and that we have information that they don't. End of story. Let's keep it that way :]


Don't Junsui also simply see us as just 'a collective that has information'?

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 		I concur: C - Eb - F G - Bb C G

The sound effects when the symbol disappears takes on tones that head back down the scale as well:

F Eb C

Perhaps the 'pentatonic' part is the most important (if at all)?


Thundersome wrote:
Soulmech wrote:
From MoT's FB group:

Quote:
As far as the notes on the fake google go, they are:
D#, F, G, A#, C, G
With differences in semitones as:
root, +1, +1, +2, +1, -5

This is a D# major scale.


It might just be me, but in all my years of piano and theory, I have NEVER heard of the Eb scale being referred to as the "D# scale".

While Eb and D# are the same thing, writing the scale out the way that he is doing it would require adding in double-sharps.

Not sure if this means anything, but anyone who knows to call a half-step a "semitone" should know that.


And as a guitarist... the first note played is actually a C.
Making it a C-Minor Pentatonic scale.



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"Don't Junsui also simply see us as just 'a collective that has information'?


As Kona stated... our PM has broken some trusts on that side of the playing field; however, all still seems okay with MoT and A-T.

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