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 		Help with anagrams
Hi. I've been a long time follower of this thread, but this is my first time posting here. Anyway, I've noticed that there have been a few mentions of some clues being anagrams. I don't know if this helps, but I found an anagram generator: http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi-bin/anagram.cgi

The site provides a list of series of words that can be made out of a line of text. I don't suggest reading through every single line of text until you find something, as that could take a while, but you can quickly scroll through and look for important key words.

I hope this helps!

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 		[quote="swish"]
kadomony wrote:
kadomony wrote:

Ok so we know the Rit rune means ceremony, or ritual.

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Think there's a mistake here. I couldn't find any reference to "Rit" being used for "ceremony."
The only thing I saw rit meaning is "Raida" or "ride,journey"


I see what you are saying. I recognize the meaning resa/ride from my own rune set. BUT Armanen runes does not share the standard rune's interpretation. I should know, I have read runes for half my life.


BTW, we should have a thread for speculating about this pagan stuff. So I went ahead and created one.


This ARG is getting a bit too frustrating and confusing. Everything is open to a zillion interpretations. For example maybe the X's in the Kitusne picture stands for the NOD and EH symbols (Karma and Cosmic Union), The third mark that doesn't look like an X, could be AR (to ascend)… Rolling Eyes
I just hope they are not expecting that we go through all 15000 pages of The story of the Vivian girls or that we buy a shirt in order to get a hint… Razz

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 		First, sorry if my english is pretty bad xD I can understand text in english, but I'm not used to speak it.

I've finally read ALL the 144 pages (what a headache, god). In my opinion, if the lock we're looking for is "visual", and our ally say something about the images, I think the most suspicious is "kitsune". If the answer to the puzzle is obvious, maybe we have to dedicate more attention to the details in the picture, including the name itself (Why JJ name it "Kitsune"? Lack of imagination? I don't think so).

Ah, yes. I'm new in the ARG world Shocked So probably I wasn't of much help.

Someone here can speak spanish? If someone can, maybe I can talk with him/her to tell about my opinion.

Good luck.

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 		I posted it previously; however, I'll do it again just to bump the topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune

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Kitsune (狐, きつね, ki·tsu·ne?, IPA: [kitsɯne] ( listen)) is the Japanese word for fox. Foxes are a common subject of Japanese folklore; kitsune usually refers to them in this context. Stories depict them as intelligent beings and as possessing magical abilities that increase with their age and wisdom. Foremost among these is the ability to assume human form. While some folktales speak of kitsune employing this ability to trick others—as foxes in folklore often do—other stories portray them as faithful guardians, friends, lovers, and wives.

Foxes and human beings lived in close proximity in ancient Japan; this companionship gave rise to legends about the creatures. Kitsune have become closely associated with Inari, a Shinto kami or spirit, and serve as his messengers. This role has reinforced the fox's supernatural significance. The more tails a kitsune has—they may have as many as nine—the older, wiser, and more powerful it is. Because of their potential power and influence, some people make offerings to them as to a deity.



I JUST REALIZED THIS:

The picture of Kitsune at the bottom of that wiki page is also found on the page for the winter solstice celebration which is celebrated in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaterasu

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Amaterasu (天照?), Amaterasu-ōmikami (天照大神／天照大御神?) or Ōhiru-menomuchi-no-kami (大日孁貴神?) is, in Japanese mythology, a sun goddess and the most important Shinto deity (神, kami?). Her name, Amaterasu, means literally "(that which) illuminates Heaven". She was born from the left eye of Izanagi as he purified himself in a river and went on to become the ruler of the Higher Celestial Plain (Takamagahara).

She is also said to be directly linked in lineage to the Imperial Household of Japan and the Emperor, who are considered descendants of the kami themselves.

History

[edit] Story of Amaterasu
Amaterasu Omikami is described in the Kojiki as the sun goddess who was born from Izanagi-no-Mikoto's left eye. She was also accompanied by her siblings Susanoo-no-Mikoto, the storm deity, and Tsukuyomi-no-Mikoto, the moon deity, who were born from Izanagi'-no-Mikoto's nose and right eye respectively. In the Kojiki, Amaterasu Omikami is described as the goddess from which all light emanates and is often referred to as the sun goddess because of her warmth and compassion for the people who worshipped her. Some other myths state that Amaterasu Omikami was born from water.

Most of her myths revolve around an incident where the goddess traps herself in a cave because of her brother's actions. For a while, everything among the three revered gods was peaceful and all of the world ran smoothly. One day, Susanoo-no-Mikoto, in a drunken rampage, trampled Amaterasu Omikami's rice fields, filled all of her irrigation ditches and threw excrement into her palace and her shrines. The Omikami asked her brother to stop but he ignored her and even went so far as to throw the corpse of a skinned horse at her hand-maidens who were weaving at the time. The women were killed by the splintered wood from the looms piercing their bodies (in the Kojiki it was their reproductive organs that were pierced[1]).

Amaterasu Omikami was greatly angered and in protest she shut herself in the Heavenly Cave and sealed it shut with a giant rock. As a result, the world was consumed with darkness. Without her, everything began to wither and die. Countless Kami gathered in front of her cave and devised a way to lure her out. They all sat around the cave and set up a mirror across from the entrance. Ame-no-Uzume, the voluptuous goddess of merriment turned over a wash-tub and began a sensual dance, tapping the beat on the tub. She exposed her breasts and lifted her skirts as she danced. All of the gods made a great noise of yelling and cheering and laughing. Amaterasu peeked out to see what the noise was about. She asked the nearest god what was going on and he replied that there was a new goddess. When Amaterasu asked where she was, he pointed to the mirror.

The Omikami had never seen herself before and when she caught her reflection, she stared at the radiance of her own form. She was so surprised she said "omo-shiroi", which means both "white face", which the Omikami had, and "fascinating". When she was out of the way, Tajikara-O shut the rock behind her. Having lured her out of the cave, the gods convinced her to go back into the Celestial Plain and all life began to grow again and become strong in her light. Once back in the Celestial Plain, she made sure that she was ready for her brother's harsh actions again by having a bow and quiver at her side.

Later she sent her grandson Ninigi-no-Mikoto to pacify Japan: his great-grandson became the first emperor, Emperor Jimmu. He had a sacred sword (Kusanagi), jewel (Yasakani no magatama), and mirror (Yata no kagami) that became the Japanese imperial regalia.

Amaterasu is credited with inventing the cultivation of rice and wheat, use of silkworms and weaving with a loom.

Kukai, the founder of the Shingon Buddhist sect famously linked Amaterasu with Dainichi Nyorai, a central manifestation of the Buddha, whose name is literally "Great Sun Buddha". Thus Amaterasu Omikami is held as an divine Emanation of Buddha Vairocana.

Her most important shrine, the Grand Shrine of Ise, is in Ise in western Honshū. The shrine is torn down and rebuilt every 20 years. In that shrine she is represented as a mirror, one of the three Japanese imperial regalia. The Ise Shrine is said to be the home of Amaterasu Omikami. This shrine, however, is not open to the public.

She is celebrated every July 17 with street processions all over the country. Festivities on December 21, the winter solstice, celebrate her coming out of the cave.

The goddess and the Imperial family
In 1946, Emperor Shōwa issued the Humanity Declaration. It was effectively a renunciation of the conception of akitsumikami (現御神?), divinity in human form, and claimed his relation to the people did not rely on such a mythological idea but on a historically developed family-like reliance. Many authors, such as John W. Dower and Herbert Bix, who dispute the former interpretation, consider that by choosing the word akitsumikami (現御神?) instead of arahitogami, Emperor Shōwa didn't actually deny his divine descent from goddess Amaterasu Omikami.

It must however be noted, that according to Shinto myths, all Japanese people descend from the gods, not only the Emperor. On this topic, Emperor Shōwa expressed in December 1945 his point of view to his vice-grand chamberlain Michio Kinoshita: "It is permissible to say that the idea that the Japanese are descendants of the gods is a false conception; but it is absolutely impermissible to call chimerical the idea that the emperor is a descendant of the gods."[2]

Cult of the sun
The worship of Amaterasu to the exclusion of other kami has been described as "the cult of the sun".[3] This phrase can also refer to the early pre-archipelagoan worship of the sun itself.[3]




maybe this will give us a lead? Sure sounds like whole lot of sun worship like the Junsui like to do.

I know it's a long post but thought it would make it easiest if I just post the info in thread.

also if you just google Amaterasu you'll find a whole lot of images related to Kitsune. [/quote]
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 		Maybe I'm wrong, but... Isn't the posture of Amaterasu in that image the same posture of the woman in "Kitsune"?

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 		Another idea for the second "rune"

Maybe it's not even a rune at all. Maybe it's stylized Kanji???

Can anyone possibly confirm or deny that?

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 		here's a comparison:

also, a link to more good info

http://www.uwec.edu/philrel/shinbutsudo/amaterasu.html

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:
Another idea for the second "rune"

Maybe it's not even a rune at all. Maybe it's stylized Kanji???

Can anyone possibly confirm or deny that?


My roommate knows kanji I think, if nobody gets to it by the time I see him I will ask him what he thinks.

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:
Another idea for the second "rune"

Maybe it's not even a rune at all. Maybe it's stylized Kanji???

Can anyone possibly confirm or deny that?


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8D
The closest one I could find.

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 		here's a detail of the kitsune.png runes/kanji?
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 		make sure you read what I posted up there about Amaterasu...


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Some other myths state that Amaterasu Omikami was born from water.


I'm pretty sure I just facepalmed harder than I have in a long long time....

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 		i just have 1 question where the kistune picture comes from... frist time i saw it was in junsui facebook group posted by some player and before that like a frame of BROADCASTMNAJDRA whuitout runes or cross faces 2:39 -2:46

maybe is a fake?


another thing maybe i just become paranoid but i check the video in that picture and i find some BIG scrachet


http://img27.imageshack.us/i/broadcastmnajdracapture.jpg/

sorry about me english[/img]

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 		'December 21, the winter solstice, celebrate her coming out of the cave.'

Could they be trying to break Rhea from her cave by this date?

Hoo boy, Googling Yamantau brings some.. interesting results.

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Deiwos wrote:
'December 21, the winter solstice, celebrate her coming out of the cave.'

Could they be trying to break Rhea from her cave by this date?

Hoo boy, Googling Yamantau brings some.. interesting results.


Yes it does. If you weren't aware, I posted a bunch about the Yamantaw facility on page 143.

:]

Along with additional details on similar areas and some other insight.

Edit:just for fun Inside the intelligence community we refer to Mt. Yamantau as "Magic Mountain".
Edit2: Just for RL background info for those curious about Yamantau, this has been on my favorites tabs for years: http://www.viewzone.com/yamantau.html

Have I ever told you that I love my job?

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 		I remember someone says that the second rune/kanji was something like water, so both say "Ritual of water" or something like that.

If the woman is a analogy of Amaterasu, then I think that it must be a rune, instead of a Kanji of negation.

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http://img27.imageshack.us/i/broadcastmnajdracapture.jpg/


Aja! I knew that I have seen that picture in some video. Is curious, in the video the three girls doesn't have their eyes "blinded", so it must be a hint, probably.

The "X", "X", "I" theory sounds plausible, but if I zoom the "Kitsune", I see the third girl doesn't have a "I", she has a "X", but one of the two lines is to short. Mistake of PM when he trid to put a "I"?

Edit: Ah, yeah. Headache here Razz

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