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[celina63]

Charlie has now posted pics of his pyramid: http://www.thisistheend.com/2009/09/origami-hour-with-charlie-fros.php

[djchristensen]

jeez, how many are there, in a normal date, there are 8 numbers, 00-00-0000, but this could be anything. supposedly we have 3,4,8, and which one is this guys?

[Scott]

Here's mine:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/arg/img8KqZ9/rxsmX3.pdf

I believe there are several more.

[MattDunn]

Was following this a little when it started, forgot about it until earlier this week when my wife said she saw a commercial she thought might be an AGR and directed me to the IHC website. Anyway...

Just finished all the puzzles and ended up with the same picture as Scott posted. I would think there are at least 3 more out there. Will post my link in the other thread...

[magnet0]

Looks like Charlie got #1.

[Rusty23]

Here's mine: http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/arg/img8KqZ9/IcvJNN.pdf

[Scott]

Okay here's what I've got so fFar.

I started looking into mayan alphabets, symbols, etc. I was thinking, maybe if we arrange the symbols, we might get a word or something. I haven't given up on this idea, but there seems to be some disagreement on what exactly Mayan letters should look like, and sound like. This page has reasonable good information, but no symbols seem to match what we've seen particularly.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/mayan.htm

Here's a really weird page which relates mayan letters, amino acids, and number systems.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/20-mayan-tzolkin-calender-glyphs-20-amino-acids/
Charlie fFrost would love it I suspect, but it does us no good.

Then I started looking at the Tzolkin Calendar. Maybe I should have started here, though I'm still at a dead end. The previous page I just mentioned references the Tzolkin system. That's what that double gear looking thing is. In this basic fFramework, there's 20 symbols, and 13 numbers, which cycle through each combination of the two in a very long cycle of 260 years. Some math stuff is involved here. The Mayans had a rather impressive numerical system which western pythagorean mathematicians (which includes you and me) fFind both fFun and confusing.

Wikipedia has some characteristically lovely primer notes on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzolkin
Here's another page on the matter.
http://www.mayan-calendar-code.com/tzolkin-calendar.html

Here's what I can tell you in summary. In the Tzolkin system, a date is made up of a number and a symbol. We are seeing both on the pyramids. Which is what makes me think this is a good direction to look.

HOWEVER!!

I notice Rusty23's pyramid (which has the number 10 in black) ALSO has the number 9 underneath the fFace-symbol. Which made me look back at the pyramids we have, and I notice that cbranch101's pyramid has the number 7 below the fFace-symbol. So now I'm not sure what to think.

Mostly I think: We need more pyramids. MORE DATA REQUIRED! It would seem these might not be available beyond September 8th, so don't dilly dally too much on doing yours, eh?

[Scott]

Oh, one other little thing, at the risk of self-responding.

I noticed the "loading" image on http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/ is a psedo-Tzolkin . I say pseudo, because it has 3 rings, the outermost ring having only 19 symbols. This may not be relevant at all, but I thought I would mention it. Actually, being on the movie-website, not an in-game site, it's less likely to be relevant at all. Anyway.

[PostLarval]

I've been so ridiculously busy I haven't had time to put any real work into this. I'm free for the next few days though, so hope to make some progress.

As I was looking through everyone's pyramids again I realized that mine is NOT exactly the same as jamesi's. It's the same glyph, but it's number 5 (his was 8 ). Which means, as of now, we have #'s 1 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 7 - 8 - 10.

As Scott said, the different representations of Mayan symbols found online make it difficult to match any of them to what we've been given. I've been searching through the in-game sites to see if I could find anything that would help, but no luck. Even the symbols on the load wheel pictured above don't seem to match.

Charlie and Ulfert keep prodding us along, but they're mostly just confirming what we've already recognized. I'm hoping that something in the phone calls points us in a useful direction. The names mentioned so far are characters from the movie, but I haven't found any twitter accounts, websites, etc. related to them.

One thing I haven't tried yet is contacting Ulfert for help (Charlie seems pretty lost on the subject). He's responsible for the election competition, so he must know what it all means. Don't know what he'll be willing to share, but it's worth a try.

[Scott]

grr, made a fFake dummy account, and got a duplicate glyph. (The #4 with the whale looking glyph) It fFeels a bit like a brute fForce attack to make a bunch of dummies, but I think our time is running out, here.

[celina63]

Finally finished all the tests and received my pyramid:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/arg/img8KqZ9/Ru1a4w.pdf

Looks to be the same as jamesi's but I'll have to take a better look later, when I'm not at work (or, you guys can if you have the time).

[Scott]

well. We didn't get em all. so now we're screwed.

Here's what I've been thinking. It isnt especially useful, since I have come to a dead end, but I guess it's something I suppose. Looking at each pyramid base, there are actually two numbers, and one fFace. There are a lot of ways they might go, but here's one possibility I noticed. Maybe the fFirst number is to indicate the number of that specific pyramid, and the second number, the one under the fFace, is meant to indicate what comes next. I've attached a sample of how that would work.

The problem with this scheme is that pyramid #3 has the number 3 under the fFace-symbol too. So somehow #3 fFollows #3. That might indicate an ending, perhaps.

fFollowing this scheme, here's how the numbers would be arranged, to the extent we know them. Note, We do not have all the pyramids.

?-8-1-6-??

?-4-7-2-??

?-10-9-??

??-3


Anyway. I know not what to do with this string, even if we did have all the pyramids. Presumably the fFaces are supposed to translate to some sound or meaning, but as I have expounded on before, I can't fFind two sets of Mayan alphabets which agree. So ... it's a series of some kind, to no clear purpose.

Ideas? Anyone?

[Scott]

Oh. and. fFor those keeping score. We have 1, 3, 4, 7, 8 and 10.

If anyone out there has a link they are keeping to themselves, this would be a great time to bring it up, eh.

[PostLarval]

In trying to make sense of the glyphs I focused mainly on the Dresden codex, since the IHC's site (Cultural and Historical Anaysis section) specifically states: "Mayanists, including those from the IHC, consider the Dresden Codex to be the most scientifically important".

Unfortunately the glyphs just don't seem to match. Or at least, I haven't been able to match them. Though the way they're put together does, which may help when we find the right key.

I really think that the "newly discovered" 5th codex is our key... but I can't find it out there. Maybe now that the contest is over we'll get a lead of some sort.

Then there's always the possibility that the only important part of the glyphs are the numbers within them. I believe that the numbers in the triangles identify the order of the pyramids (1 through 10(?)), which could then mean that our answer is the string of numbers identified by the glyphs. Though what that string would represent, I have no idea.

Anyhow, just tossing out thoughts that may trigger ideas for the rest of y'all. And here's an image of #5:

[PostLarval]

Also, I wouldn't say we're screwed yet. There are a lot more people out there who've played this... I've got messages up on different Facebook groups asking for pictures, and I'm going to keep searching the web for anyone else who may have posted theirs. I'm sure it's all out there somewhere!