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bluesylvia
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 		Argh so tired...

Received this this morning from OP:
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OK, we should be headed into the rift in the next few days. In the mean time, I had another look at the message from the beacon (Eve translated it for me). It seem that the people of the Aztlan were trying to make a Stone of Light. I think that one of the sources for the rift will be in the place where they tried to make it. I wonder if the symbol in the middle is a clue as to the location? I think I've seen it before, but I don't know where...


Too worn out to think right now. Will give the middle symbol a look later.

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Abraxas
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I wonder if the symbol in the middle is a clue as to the location?

Rolling Eyes Wink

In the middle of the symbol, it looks to me like a face with its tongue stuck out. In fact, it looks like a skull rather than just a face.
But I'm sure I'm imagining that.

I see some arrows. Top left and at the top. The bottom left could be an arrow, but it looks more like a Y.

Don't think that symbol was in one of the videos. It might be a different representation of the clompass? 3 arrows = 3 hands of the clock? It doesn't seem to fit.

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silviablu
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 		Bluesylvia here again.
Noticed my school computers have a ton of Photoshop-related products, so I decided to forgo studying and put up with confused stares in order to see if I could get anything to appear.

Overall, couldn't see anything that makes me remember what I should be remembering. I feel like there's something in the back of my head that's telling me I should vaguely recognize it, but it might be telling me that just because I feel like I should.

So I went through the old thread (ah, memories...) and pictures we've received and haven't seen anything that reminds me of it.

Also, I see a chicken's face.

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carpathianroses
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 		I see a really surprised bird. Shocked

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RAD24
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 		Email from TEDO:

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I wonder if you are ready to learn about the people of Aztlan? Your world knows so little about them. The Lorsham came across them in their happy hunting grounds. We drove them away to the land of four waters. Here they earned our respect. We tested them and we drove them to the seven entrances. Here they proved their worth. Once more we tested them to see if they could understand the lore we were to impart on them. This time they were driven to the Land of Egrets. Here they received their name: Aztlan. But they failed us. They sought to make the sun stone (as the called the Per'tnel) and one last time they were driven away, this time no longer to earn the name of Aztlan. They continued to make the stone, but they no longer had our lore.


Make sure that the same does not happen to you. We have extended our arm toward the alovieb. It will not remain thus forever.


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bluesylvia
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 		Found the red symbol!

http://orgs.sa.ucsb.edu/mecha/ElPlandeAztlan.html

Edit: They also have the "seven caves of Chicomoztoc," which could be related to the "seven entrances" TEDO mentioned.

Edit times Two: "Nahuatl," the land of "four waters," [is] where the Colorado, Green and San Juan rivers meet to pour through the Grand Canyon."

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bluesylvia
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 		Apparently the red symbol is the symbol of the Aztec calendar.

*smacks self repeatedly*

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bluesylvia
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 		FeGrelw did another drive-by while Eve was busy chatting me up.

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Bluesylvia: Bilvin, fairest FeGrelw!
FeGrelw: Bilvin
FeGrelw: The tides of time are turning. The TEDO are victorious in most time lines now
FeGrelw: The Tylean and the Abie are needed now more than ever.
FeGrelw: Bilvin


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itadmin: Hello

me: Hello, Eve

itadmin: I just got a message from the other Eve
She says that she will not return yet. Something about looking near some old lighthouses

me: Lighthouses?
Did she say why?

itadmin: She said that she wanted to look for more beacons
She thinks there should be at least two more.

me: I am concerned by her dilly-dallying.

itadmin: OP says he doesn't trust her. He thinks she is lying to us about something.
I must say, I don't trust her much either...not since she left us like she did, when she could have helped

me: I agree.

itadmin: But I guess we need her still.

me: I don't like helping her either. But I don't know of who else we can turn to to help Abie and Tylean
TEDO is only getting more powerful.

itadmin: Yes, I heard what happened with the gmail in your world
I didn't think they would do that, but it came at an important time

me: It was a very terrible thing indeed.

itadmin: OP and I were planning what to do, he was gaining courage, but by the time we had the ability to communicate again, he had lost courage again.
I'm worried they might come after us.

me: I am too.

itadmin: I hope someone can find the answer to the beacon. Maybe then she'll come to help us.

me: We have discovered more of it.
That the symbol in the middle is the Aztec calendar.

itadmin: Wow
how, why? In the British Isles?!?

me: That is the mystery.
But perhaps the first beacon was not in the British Isles

itadmin: I see, so it is pointing to where the beacon might be
Sorry, I mean the source?

me: I am sure we still have more to uncover.

itadmin: I guess this is a little out of my league

me: No more yours than ours Wink

itadmin: Do you think that there might be a way for us to come to your world rather than wait for Eve?

me: It is possible.
How will you manage to transport everyone though?

itadmin: I don't even know how the stones work let a lone know how to plan for that! It was just a thought... Wink

me: Perhaps you should ask OP
But they are dangerous.

itadmin: Although, maybe OP can help? But we would have to prevent the stone from doing to us what it did to him...You're right, I'll ask him.
Thank you for your help. Smile

me: But of course!
I wish I could only do more to help.

itadmin: I'll let you know how it goes with OP
bye

me: Take care.


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bluesylvia
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 		Sorry for another spam-o-thon again, guys. OP replied to my email when I let him know that I finally did the obvious and Google image searched Aztlan. (I am never going to stop kicking myself for this one.)

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I thought I had seen that somewhere! I have a small epoxy replica of the "Sun Stone" which tells their story. I guess I was thrown by the name Aztlan, as they don't go by that name now. Rhea and I went to Mexico a few times before the kids were born. But what could it mean?


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zephusdragon
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 		Well this is interesting. What we might have here is another rift or even a location of another stone? Could it be possible there is an entry point to ThatWorld the ThatTEDO don't know about? Could be a sort of hyper-dimentional "back door" giving them access without an ambush party waiting for them. If that's true, of course, we'd need more clues.

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carpathianroses
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 		I had previously asked ThisEve if she could trace the red symbol and make it clearer.

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ThisEve: I'm afraid not. It was taken from a disc with the face engraved on it. I put a piece of paper over it and used a pencil to get the contours like you would if you were putting a piece of paper over a coin face to get the contours of it with a pencil. Our electrical equipment does not work inside the cave.

I feel like I should know where the face is from. I'm sure I've heard of Aztlan before, but I don't remember where.

I've been thinking that before going to see the Tyelan I should make sure there are no more caves like that underneath the other lighthouses in the Calf. It'll only take a few days. OP is angry with me, but this is too important. And I don't trust the Tylean, despite what he did for my people, he did it for his own purposes, not ours.

I'll contact you again once I have more information.


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RAD24
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 		I can't believe I never made the connection between Aztlan and Aztec. I think me and Blue even mentioned the Aztecs in chat one day Laughing

Anyway, good job on finding that Blue. About the Land of Egrets, an egret is apparently a type of heron, and I found this link about Aztlan: http://www.insearchofaztlan.com/keilch2.html which has the following at the top:

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Q: Could you tell us about the heron petroglyphs?

A: Aztlán received its name after the fact that it was the home of the egrets, the home of the snowy egrets, these white herons that are the emblem of the Aztecs. The egrets were somehow connected to the story of Aztlán because it gave this homeland its name. We still haven't totally figured out the connection, but there's an important correlation there between the egrets and the homeland.


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 		Oh good Toltecs. I have a decet understanding of Toltec religion such as Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca, etc. In fact Aztec means "People from Aztlan" In anycase I'm almost positive that something we are looking for is either a) hidden in Toltec myth or b) hidden in Mexico itself. Funny we are also approching the end of the current Toltec long count. I wonder if that's important?

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RAD24
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 		Speaking of Quetzalcoatl, I got this email from TEDO just as I was about to get offline (It's in response to me asking them if they were called "Azteca Chicomoztoca" :

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No, but in the Seven Entrances they learned about what we could teach them. Soon after, they started calling us Quetzalcoatl and Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, because we taught them about the stones and the Book. They wanted to create their own stone. But they knew not how. They knew that the Pert'nel could access Korpata Profesul, so they created the stone that had the story of their civilization's past and future. They had no idea. They build a huge stone. We would have taught them, yet they were proud. They thought they could abandon us. They heard of Tylean and the Spegn (whom the Maya called Kukulcan). They wanted what they had. They wanted to learn of the Jaguar. They forgot the lessons we taught them about the Rabbit and the Snake. So, we left them. We travelled the time lines to find another people to join us; another people to teach.


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 		http://www.crystalinks.com/aztecalendar.html

Here's some info on the Aztec's "Sun Stone" and where it was first discovered. Maybe a souce is there?

Edit: The Jaguar is Texcatlipoca. He tought the people about sacrifice as power and took the people away from Quetzacoatl. Quetzacoatl cursed them saying he would return and lead them to a new land. The Aztecs thought Cortez was Quetzacoatl so let him as his men into their cities. The rest is well, history....
Edit2: Could someone who has good relations with ThatEve find out what's in the place of ThatWorld's Mexico City? Maybe things worked out differently with Cortez and such...

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