Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
 
The time now is Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:49 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)
View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!) » The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!): General/Updates
[SPEC] I know how The three scenarios are related
View previous topicView next topic
Page 2 of 3 [32 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3 Next
Author Message
WangTang
Kilroy

Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Posts: 1

Have you read The Fall of Reach? It can help solve this puzzle. In the WAV files there is an examination. Apparently, a girl named Janissary James has breached the security system of a military base. Well, at the end of the conversation, her father (James) tells her that she can't get in trouble, that they can't get in that kind of problems because they cannot be discovered. If their real identity is revealed, many people could die.

In other conversation, an AI invades the computer of a guy and tells him that the identity of James and her daughter is completely fake.

Well, Melissa, Cortana, and this SMART AIs are all based on human minds. The mind of Dr. Hasley was used to create Melissa and Cortana. I believe this conversations are fragments of converstaions that took place when the human whose mind was used to create the AI was a teenager. In The Fall of Reach, it is explained that Dr. Hasley and her father had problems with Earth inmigration. Everything matches. Possibly Aiden helped them and they are illegal inmigrants.

This is what I believe: The real identities of James and her dougther Jannisary are Dr. Hasley and her father. When Janissary grows up, she becomes a doctor and her mind is used to create advanced AIs. Melissa is one of them and now she is transmitting conversations that took place when the human she is based on was a teenager.


EDIT - to remove large signature image - SG

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:56 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

I had that idea too, Cept slightly tweaked, it's a good theory but nothing really backs it up too much. And right now not too much we can really prove, which is the sad part Sad
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:34 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
midas777
Veteran

Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 70
Location: Austin, Texas

Re: [SPEC] I know how The three scenarios are related

Theorizer wrote:
Seek the truth
behold the truth
reveal the truth



TRUTH

That's how they're linked, by Truth

In Spy(my name for it): they go and seek the truth about aiden, the truth is beholden for a few seconds, they then reveal it, and get back at aiden whow as not being truthfull

In Jail (my name once again): She continues to bends the truth about what's she's done, who she is, or better yet, what she is, along with her father, sadly the police only got as far as to seek the truth

In AI (obviously): this is the main plot, so durga is on a serch for the truth, they are currently seeking the truth about Jan (I'd think) and Durga.


What do you think? am I high? Am I trying to take the smallest thing and turn it into something big? or am I actually right? Truth has a lot more than what we have given it credit for, we are currently seeking the truth, but we have almost revealed it. Then we can behold it and say w00t! hazah!


Edit: Topic tag. -SpaceBass




Like the theory... one question.. was there a ship called Truth and Reconciliation? Why does that ring a bell? Confused
_________________
No questions asked, no guilt involved, a sure thing.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:54 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

Re: [SPEC] I know how The three scenarios are related

midas777 wrote:
Theorizer wrote:
Seek the truth
behold the truth
reveal the truth



TRUTH

That's how they're linked, by Truth

In Spy(my name for it): they go and seek the truth about aiden, the truth is beholden for a few seconds, they then reveal it, and get back at aiden whow as not being truthfull

In Jail (my name once again): She continues to bends the truth about what's she's done, who she is, or better yet, what she is, along with her father, sadly the police only got as far as to seek the truth

In AI (obviously): this is the main plot, so durga is on a serch for the truth, they are currently seeking the truth about Jan (I'd think) and Durga.


What do you think? am I high? Am I trying to take the smallest thing and turn it into something big? or am I actually right? Truth has a lot more than what we have given it credit for, we are currently seeking the truth, but we have almost revealed it. Then we can behold it and say w00t! hazah!


Edit: Topic tag. -SpaceBass




Like the theory... one question.. was there a ship called Truth and Reconciliation? Why does that ring a bell? Confused
It was the name of the Covenant cruiser on Halo, the only one mentioned and named during the plotline of halo 1. But of course the covenant are very religious, I think they're christian actually. and all of them are, or'd they'd be executioned.
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:42 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
Cu Roi
Veteran

Joined: 30 Jul 2004
Posts: 123

7

Not bad.

I suggest you do some more research, though.

Try seeking the Tru7h.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:40 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
thebruce
Dances With Wikis


Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 6899
Location: Kitchener, Ontario

Re: [SPEC] I know how The three scenarios are related

Theorizer wrote:
It was the name of the Covenant cruiser on Halo, the only one mentioned and named during the plotline of halo 1. But of course the covenant are very religious, I think they're christian actually. and all of them are, or'd they'd be executioned.

Hey, that was totally uncalled for, and where'd that come from? Please refrain from religious slander on the forums, let's try to keep this civilized.
_________________
@4DFiction/@Wikibruce/Contact
ARGFest 2013 - Seattle! ARGFest.com


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:52 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address
 Back to top 
Avery1415
Boot

Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 51
Location: St. Louis

Durendal and Cortana

Durendal means enduring. Cortana was the sword of Ogier the Dane.

Did Oliver have a named sword?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:10 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

Re: [SPEC] I know how The three scenarios are related

thebruce wrote:
Theorizer wrote:
It was the name of the Covenant cruiser on Halo, the only one mentioned and named during the plotline of halo 1. But of course the covenant are very religious, I think they're christian actually. and all of them are, or'd they'd be executioned.

Hey, that was totally uncalled for, and where'd that come from? Please refrain from religious slander on the forums, let's try to keep this civilized.
No the prophets would kill any covenant not following the religion, and I think that they have a christian type faith, not being killed because they're not christian....... You get where I'm getting at?
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:17 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
SuperJerms
Unfettered


Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 537
Location: indiana

Bzzt...wrong again (or at least coming across very poorly)

The covenant are the logical end of pure religion itself, or of religious fanaticism. Say they are like historical Jewish Zealots, Christian Crusaders/Inquisitioners, a totalitarian regime, or Muslim Jhadists, but it is a heafty insult to say they are like christians.
_________________
"If we could make your toaster print something we would." - Jordan Weisman

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:37 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
 ICQ Number 
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

SuperJerms wrote:
Bzzt...wrong again (or at least coming across very poorly)

The covenant are the logical end of pure religion itself, or of religious fanaticism. Say they are like historical Jewish Zealots, Christian Crusaders/Inquisitioners, a totalitarian regime, or Muslim Jhadists, but it is a heafty insult to say they are like christians.
Christian faith, Silent Cartogropher, Reconcilitaion, Halo. All religious statements with the christian faith. Being like christians...... would prob make them way nicer. Just I think they follow religion like the christians, with one god, everyone else who does not believe and follow these laws of religion will be damned (or catholic same thing) except the coventant would kill us on the spot before we could say "god may not exist". So whether they're extremist or not, that wasn't the point i was making.
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:48 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
devolver
Decorated


Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 158
Location: Beijing

Um, I think maybe we should just agree that the Covenent are a wee bit on the religious side and leave it at that.
_________________
Betcha can't stick it...

:: Devout Vizier, Pious Flea Army


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:53 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

devolver wrote:
Um, I think maybe we should just agree that the Covenent are a wee bit on the religious side and leave it at that.
"betcha can't stick it" Lol, OKay fine with me.
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:55 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
WhiteGulls
Unfettered


Joined: 08 Aug 2004
Posts: 331
Location: Portland

Hey... Reading through that topic, it says that the third sword in Charlemagne, is Joyeuse. So, if Dana's one sword, Cortana's another, and we have yet to find the third, I'm thinking four options - Joyeuse is either the Princess, or an AI in a series Bungie has yet to create, or in Halo 2, OR as stated in the spec. I'm going to try sending an email to the Princess asking if Joyeuse is her name, and seeing what the response to that is. Now, that fails the three swords, three races theory, but it's worth a shot in relation to the Princess.
_________________
the last fortress | 17:23:00

Come to the dark side.
We have cookies.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:56 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
thebruce
Dances With Wikis


Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 6899
Location: Kitchener, Ontario

Theorizer wrote:
Christian faith, Silent Cartogropher, Reconcilitaion, Halo. All religious statements with the christian faith. Being like christians...... would prob make them way nicer. Just I think they follow religion like the christians, with one god, everyone else who does not believe and follow these laws of religion will be damned (or catholic same thing) except the coventant would kill us on the spot before we could say "god may not exist". So whether they're extremist or not, that wasn't the point i was making.

I know this has been closed, just gotta make my closing comment Smile
'christian' is a very wide, vague term for a belief system... there are an unbelievable amount of differing beliefs in the 'christian' religion... so really, the insult was simply how you worded the first post, which quite clearly sounded like the connection with christianity was the fact that they killed anyone not christian, which is specifically -against- what christians believe, and anyone who thinks like that should not be called a christian, it's as simple as that...

the only connection I see between the covenant and christianity is the fact that the covenant believe in something, be it a higher power or whatever, and that's pretty much the same for any religion out there. We don't know (AFAIK) what exactly the covenant believe as their religion outside of the forerunners, which is quite a different concept than monotheism as well.

Anyway, I think I've cleared that up Smile really there is no connection between 'christianity' generically speaking, and the 'covenant'. Bungie has a thing for biblical and/or religious references, but that's meta, and has nothing to do plot-wise with the halo universe... it's simply creative license on bungie's part.

that's it Smile
_________________
@4DFiction/@Wikibruce/Contact
ARGFest 2013 - Seattle! ARGFest.com


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:34 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website AIM Address
 Back to top 
Theorizer
Decorated


Joined: 14 Aug 2004
Posts: 266
Location: In front of a computer

thebruce wrote:
Theorizer wrote:
Christian faith, Silent Cartogropher, Reconcilitaion, Halo. All religious statements with the christian faith. Being like christians...... would prob make them way nicer. Just I think they follow religion like the christians, with one god, everyone else who does not believe and follow these laws of religion will be damned (or catholic same thing) except the coventant would kill us on the spot before we could say "god may not exist". So whether they're extremist or not, that wasn't the point i was making.

I know this has been closed, just gotta make my closing comment Smile
'christian' is a very wide, vague term for a belief system... there are an unbelievable amount of differing beliefs in the 'christian' religion... so really, the insult was simply how you worded the first post, which quite clearly sounded like the connection with christianity was the fact that they killed anyone not christian, which is specifically -against- what christians believe, and anyone who thinks like that should not be called a christian, it's as simple as that...

the only connection I see between the covenant and christianity is the fact that the covenant believe in something, be it a higher power or whatever, and that's pretty much the same for any religion out there. We don't know (AFAIK) what exactly the covenant believe as their religion outside of the forerunners, which is quite a different concept than monotheism as well.

Anyway, I think I've cleared that up Smile really there is no connection between 'christianity' generically speaking, and the 'covenant'. Bungie has a thing for biblical and/or religious references, but that's meta, and has nothing to do plot-wise with the halo universe... it's simply creative license on bungie's part.

that's it Smile
Exactly....... But I still don't know why in the nanem the'd come up with names like they do, those covenant man, They must've been high 24/7. and what'd be even funnier is that is the covenant asimilated their relgion from another race, and anyways doe anyone know specifically why humans are the vermant of the universe? cause they couldn't have used that line on every other race they destroyed to date?
_________________
Hey Kitty Sniper you think we can take on all these ARG's?
Kitty Sniper: Meow......KILL!
I'll take that as a yes.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:35 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 2 of 3 [32 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3 Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!) » The Haunted Apiary (Let Op!): General/Updates
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group