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[Prisoner2401]

I think the PMs are using "Jesus" as a family-friendly swear word. Y'know, in place of stuff like [preemptively self-censored], [preemptively self-censored], and [preemptively self-censored]ing [preemptively self-censored]monkey.

[t-toe]

haha, yeah, Prisoner, you're probably right... *sigh* I thought I was onto something...

[Karmic]

Apocalypso?

[kalamazoo]

1) Melissa's reference is almost certainly to the ship Apocalypso, and not to the Covenant attack (which could be considered the Apocalypse, especially if the unthinkable occurs and Earth is glassed).

2) There is absolutely no reason for a couple of minor characters (a grumpy man evac'd from Troy and a military receptionist) to have any connection to officials monitoring cislunar space...

unless there is more here than meets the eye.

My theory: the Grumpy Old Man is an act by one of the who officials in goodbye.wav. Since they are monitoring regular military transmissions over a "cable", these guys are probably ONI.

The purpose of the Grumpy Old Man call is to pass some piece of info up through channels without attracting suspicion. This annoying request "I have a receipt" is innoccous yet annoying and unusual enough to stand out... and make it up through channels. Once at some staff level, the "receipt" will be interpreted as some sort of code.... probably relating to the coming Covenant invasion, which the ONI guys are obviously expecting.

[truegent]

We will know for sure when we get the first two but..

Working from the middle part of goodbye, I suspect what we will see/hear is that the younger man raises an alarm (something like "The British are coming!") due to something he has picked up from the 'chatter on the cable'. The elder man calls him into his office (note the knock before entering) to get the details. The younger is so nervous/scattered that he spits out the info haphazardly. Only after he (and we) get all the pieces does he relives that not only are the British NOT coming but it is one of our ships.

To the 'old man' act. [WILDSPEC] What if this is some time later, and the 'old man' is indeed Jan's father/handler and Janet is Jan. The world is falling apart and the Covenant (or whoever) are closing in and taking out colonies. He is concerned about Jan's welfare (she is older now and no longer needs a handler) and wants to track her down. Working outside the system he can not just pop into the system leaving trails so he pulls the 'old man' act to get info on her. As this is going on he and his SSF unit are tracking all 'cable' activity of space related events and his call is interrupted by the arrival of some unknown (until now) ship.

[zerosknightmare]

I think the old man is the same person as j^2 just trying to mask his voice
My reasoning: I believe since j^2 does not show up in the records that he is is trying to get someone elses family records to use as his own or he realy is trying to get his important records but could not ship them in his name cause he has no records and would be caught

[Malrog]

[SPEC]It's 2AM so this could get a little crazy...

[b0bx13]

This is REALLY bugging me.

The Trojan war was started, when King Menelaus's wife was kidnapped. Menelaus was the SPARTAN king.

Could this be some sort of clue??





*waits for the harsh sting of a trout across the face*

[pookieman357]

[JTFK]

I think the pause between "knock knock knock" and the deeper voice asking "any data yet?" is too short to include the speaker looking up and recognizing a new person who walks in the door. Instead, I think the deeper voice is the one who walks in and, as soon as he sticks his head in the door, immediately asks the for an update from a person who was on duty waiting for new data.

The picture I have is of two people in a communications shack somewhere -- one on duty trying to glean new info from general chatter and one trying to speak with "Marine Corps Customer Service" about Janet Adams. Then a third man walks in and asks for an update. In my version of the story, the "old man voice" is not the same person as the deeper voice.

Hopefully we'll learn more to confirm or deny when the other two sound files open.

Other notes:
- We are on a planet, not a ship, because we don't have "Star Trek" door opening sounds.
- The clock and the music seem to be in the room with the men, not on the other end of the phone call, because they continue when the call is on hold.

Can anyone tell what kind of music that is in the background?

-JT

[JTFK]

[spec] Things we can infer about Troy

[Zanzibar]

My interpretation of the .wav with regards to the 'officer disguising himself as receipt guy' is that his story was that he GAVE some important papers to Janet Adams and that she 'has them', which is why he wants to get in touch with her. That doesn't preclude Troy from getting glassed. I actually think it WAS glassed, thus the exchange:

Woman (sounds like a secretary): You're complaining? About evac'ing from Troy, sir?
Man (sheepish): Well, not saying there wasn't a REASON for the whole thing... obviously.

There was an emphasis on the word 'Troy' that reminds me of if someone was talking about getting evac'd from the World Trade Center.

[johnny5]

How about this:
The truth to be revealed is that Troy was warned of the pending glassing even though it would have been tactically disadvantageous to do so. So someone leaked info to Troy.

[Stone]

[Kahnawake]

[SPEC]Okay, here's my take on the situation:

Man1 and the young man who knocks on the door are not military or ONI at all, they're black market smugglers who (like Aiden) bring people/things to Earth despite the blockades and embargos. That would explain why they need to covertly listen in on "the cable" and go through such a roundabout way to get information from this secretary. It would also explain why Man1 gets so bent out of shape when the young guy mentions a ship coming into orbit. He's worried about the authorities finding them out.

Now for some [WILD SPEC]: These smugglers are the reason the covenant find the location of Earth.