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[PUZZLE] Dead Drop Chile [SOLVED] [official debriefing pend]
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nomad
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bastiyang wrote:

adolgonosov wrote:

- rublo ruso (russian rubles)
- yen (jp)
- yuan (china)
- mujares (women)
- Manau (Brazilian city mentioned by Dubrovin)

Anyone remember what the double-headed eagle was a crest for? Byzantine something or other? Since the double-headed eagle is on the ruble... maybe that's what we are supposed to look up.

what it bothers me is the simbol on MoT eagle...
the coin itself doesnt have any simbol
http://menoftaste.com/

Yep, and the symbol on MoT site is also a symbol of Palaiologos. With some modifications it is the symbol of modern Russia. We inherited this symbol from Byzantine, actually.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:57 pm

Strider_Z
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CMCMKNIGHT wrote:

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Now, the phrase "Follow CURRENCY of the Khoz until it ends in KNOWLEDGE" could mean this: "Follow the Palacio de la Moneda ('currency' in english, right?) of the "leaders" until it ends in the National Library. This doesn't sounds too logic, but maybe it can light someone. Maybe there's a spanish bar/cafe on the way from the Palacio to the Library?

1) This makes me wish I did my Spanish hmwk more often.
I cannot really make heads or tails out of much of the Spanish on the Junsui page (half of the words don't seem to translate, like they were using slang?)

2) I've been googletranslating and googlemapping the hell out of this:
The road that goes past the Palacio de la Moneda (Spanish for currency) terminates right by a library

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Matucana+151,+Quinta+Normal,+Santiago,+Chile&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.089199,89.208984&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=A

3) Yen is Japanese not Chinese. Doesn't sound right.

4) The secret of Little Bird is that she's pregnant right? Maybe something about that?

Google Translate:
adjective

1. embarazada
2. encinta
3. en estado
4. muy significativo
5. pre�ada
6. fecundo

What about the word concepci�n�the meaning attached to the Yamantau/Rei symbol? Maybe also the Roman legend whom Rhea seems to be named for? Or possibly her sons, Romulus and Remus?

There are many possibilities, but it's got to be something we have already learned about Rhea and Yamantau.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:58 pm

CMcKnight
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kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

Then maybe the message of Junsui got garbled when translated to english, as the Palacio de la Moneda (Palace of Currency/Coin) is the house of the country's "leader" (aka, president) and since Khozain means leader...

Maybe then we *dont* have to look up for 'currency'? :confused:

EDIT: And as if it wasn't enough, I just remembered there's the Moneda street, right behind the library... this is loco.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:01 pm

bastiyang
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CMcKnight wrote:

kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

it makes sense...
now i'm very sure the answer is at the National Library

ed:
lets put it this way...
she talks in code... she talked about the child separated from his mother (refering to the virgin separated from jesus at the top of the hill) and talk about the Currency and the Knowledge...
but why ESPASA?... isnt it too much especific?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:03 pm
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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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Hmmm.

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:04 pm

adolgonosov
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CMcKnight wrote:

kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

I'm not so sure, there's a Palacio de la Moneda (looks like a significant landmark) just down the street from the library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_de_La_Moneda

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:05 pm

cma3
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CMcKnight wrote:

kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

I still like the Moneda / Currency > Biblioteca / Knowledge > Espasa / Encyclopedia connection, the best. I realize that you checked the 'tomos' but is there a chance that something there could have been overlooked?

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:07 pm
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peluzza
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Some brainstorming:

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Follow the CURRENCY of the Khozains until it ends in KNOWLEDGE.

Khozains are not only russian, also are japanese, american... remember MoT web....
Nearby streets of "rublo ruso" are coin-named streets, but...
look at this point, hermandad street with sabiduria street crossroad. Hermandad=Sisterhood, Sabiduria==wisdom �knowledge?

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ESPASA holds the secret of LITTLE BIRD in YAMANTAU.

maybe searching in Espasa by "Ural mounts" (montes Urales)? Yamantau is in that mountain system...

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:07 pm

cma3
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adolgonosov wrote:

I'm not so sure, there's a Palacio de la Moneda (looks like a significant landmark) just down the street from the library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_de_La_Moneda

Thats a good lead too.

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:07 pm

zexthatico
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Strider_Z wrote:

CMCMKNIGHT wrote:

4) The secret of Little Bird is that she's pregnant right? Maybe something about that?

Google Translate:
adjective

1. embarazada
2. encinta
3. en estado
4. muy significativo
5. pre�ada
6. fecundo

What about the word concepci�n�the meaning attached to the Yamantau/Rei symbol? Maybe also the Roman legend whom Rhea seems to be named for? Or possibly her sons, Romulus and Remus?

There are many possibilities, but it's got to be something we have already learned about Rhea and Yamantau.

now that i think abot it, the eagle has two faces, and rhea had two sons. now if the secret of rhea is that she's pregnant (as seems to be the case) what is the connection? should we look for something about rome?

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:07 pm

nomad
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As long as "khozains" is a Russian word, and, as I understand, Junko calls her "tutors" (the people who are in charge of schools at Yamantau base) like that who are, basically Russians (at least they are located in Russia), that is very possible that "Khozian currency" could be rouble. Also, keep in mind that two-headed eagle is on the rouble and on the MoT symbol and we haven't found any reason why MoT symbol is like this.

Considering all this, I believe that searching to the name of this dynasty would be the right song to do. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Khozain means leader

It doesn't, in a matter of fact. It means owner or master, literally. Using "khozain" as leader is kinda poetical form. They called Stalin like that, for example.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:08 pm
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bastiyang
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cma3 wrote:

CMcKnight wrote:

kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

I still like the Moneda / Currency > Biblioteca / Knowledge > Espasa / Encyclopedia connection, the best. I realize that to checked the 'tomos' but is there a chance that something there could have been overlooked?

rite rite.... but it stills bother me the ESPASA word... maybe it still fallows the "code writing" junko used in the other words...

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:08 pm

adolgonosov
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cma3 wrote:

CMcKnight wrote:

kadomony wrote:

Khozain in this case could be taken to mean the enemies of the Junsui (controllers, defilers, male aligned, etc)

I agree. I think we may have missed some of the terms people have come up with in this thread... and maybe some we haven't come up with yet.

Also, is it possible we should be also looking at Biblioteca de Santiago? It's just down the street from Biblioteca Nacional de Chile, and fits a lot of the same criteria:

Biblioteca de Santiago
Av Matucana, 151, Santiago

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:09 pm
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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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nomad wrote:

As long as "khozains" is a Russian word, and, as I understand, Junko calls her "tutors" (the people who are in charge of schools at Yamantau base) who are, basically Russians (at least they are located in Russia), that is very possible that "Khozian currency" could be rouble. Also, keep in mind that two-headed eagle is on the rouble and on the MoT symbol and we haven't found any reason why MoT symbol is like this.

Considering all this, I believe searching to the name of this dynasty would be the right song to do. Correct me if I am wrong.

Quote:

Khozain means leader

It doesn't, in a matter of fact. It means owner or master, literally. Using "khozain" as leader is kinda poetical form. They called Stalin like that, for example.

It's also a patriachal figure.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:09 pm

Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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we're up to 33 guests now lurking here. Razz

*waves to the lemmings*

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:11 pm

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