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[SteganosaurusRex]

[SteganosaurusRex]

Not sure if I can make a neat table here but that is what is needed. Okay, pay attention, Steg. They told you that Crowley is not the key here but yates.


Planets Sephiroth
Luna (Diana) Marcut
Mercury Iesod Michael
Venus Hod and Nisach
Sol Tipheret
Mars Gabiarah
Jupiter Chased
Saturn Bina

So now in order by chapters.

Chapter 1, Seph 3, Bina, Saturn,
Chapter 2, Seph 4, Chased, Jupiter
Chapter 3, Seph 5 Gavurah, Mars
Chapter 4, Seph 8-7, Venus
Chapter 5, Seph 9, Yesod, Mercury
Chapter 6, Seph 10, Malkuth, Luna
Chapter 7, Seph 6, TIphareth, Sol (assumed)

So Sephira 1 and 2 are left out and 7 and 8 are combined. The rest are in this order 3,4,5,8,7,9,10,6 assuming chapter order means anything.

[SteganosaurusRex]

Tomorrow I break out the Excel spreadsheet. Now it is off to bed. Thanks for keeping it quiet in here so I can think.

[ASimulacraOfAlex]

[birdmadgirl123]

Gotta hand it to you, Steggy...

You're not particularly nice, but you are smart as a whip.

Thanks for doing all that work so I didn't have to. Keep it up!

[SteganosaurusRex]

Yeah, your friends have been the very picture of civility. If these are the white hats, I can't wait to meet the black hats. Or silver/gold hats.

Glad there is no arg here, though. Let's me get other stuff done.

[birdmadgirl123]

Yes, emotions run high when this comes up. It seems to bring out the worst in many (myself included).

It mystifies me a bit, actually, since the anti-Matheny voices and the authors of TLS have much in common. But I'm sure no-one will take my word for it.

But we all have our own special "white whale", don't we?

[thewalk]

birdmadgirl123,
This is a very fascinating story. You've been following this for a few months now? What can you tell us about what you've learned so far?

[SteganosaurusRex]

Yeah, so far this is redefining ARG as annoying reality game.

So these guys rushed this "to press" to counter the Matheny Egg Project which, according to Matheny was canceled, but he is still doing the Ron and Jack movie? Is that about right? Why did they feel a need to counter Matheny's egg project (this for others reading, was what BMG explained ot me in a PM.)

[birdmadgirl123]

New Matheny project--a "fake" "renewal" of the 4p branch of the Process Church:

http://www.4p2.org/

The page has changed many times. Not long ago it promoted a Processan "church service" in San Francisco, I think. You can contact them at manson2SPLAT4p2.org (which will be meaningful if you've read Maury Terry or Peter Levenda--Manson 2 is the big kahuna who may have directed Manson and those involved in the Son of Sam)

Matheny speaks about 4p2 here (about 25 minutes in) from Feb. 23, 2009 (Dreams' End picked up on TLS in the middle of May):
http://www.alterati.com/blog/?cat=14&paged=2

JM speaks of wanting to create a front for a "boogeyman" with the least amount of work--thus 4p2--and how it was "extremely easy, and took no effort at all". His tone is, to say the least, dismissive of what he calls "the myth" that's built up around the Process Church and its connection to Manson, Son of Sam and other atrocities. According to him,

[SteganosaurusRex]

Well, that looks like our black hat faction. Did you download the 500 pages of documents? Anything worth looking at there?

So what if this is a sort of internet war going on, with the white hat/silver/lunar folks opposing the black hat/gold/solar folks. Be an interesting dynamic. I wonder if any args have used that idea before...maybe players pick a side.

[danteIL]

You know, I've been lurking in this thread for the past few days hoping that it will eventually make sense...

..and nope, still doesn't make sense at all.


I just see 2 or 3 people (plus an indeterminate number of guests) going back and forth making oblique references to some sort of non-ARG or possibly several non-ARG-slash-art projects that somehow exist somewhere else, or maybe they used to but have now been resurrected and are being discussed here except they're being discussed in a way that leaves everyone else out in the cold.

Far be it from me to rain on anyone's parade, but perhaps a) uF isn't the place for this or b) some clarification on what exactly is the game here?

[teri lee]

[SteganosaurusRex]

This may not belong here. I have been inconversations with ndemeter and trying to educate myself on the difference between an arg and chaotic fiction which maybe is a better "label" if we need labels. But we really don't know.

here is one thing I do know, would not a good "arg" even if we use a looser definition, I mean a really good one, make the rabbit hole hard to find? So many that I see here announce themselves in such obvious ways, an email, a twitter and then make it clear when you are on the right trail.

So what about a true "alternate reality"? What about a project where two factions battle it out with the ultimate aim of reshaping the past? What about a project that blurs the line between reality and fantasy in ways almost impossible to sort out?

So my suggestion is to let this play out a little longer. Ignore the chatter, and look for the substance. I think it is there but it may be that the authors themselves don't want people looking at this here. Or we could even move this somewhere else if you have a suggestion.

[teri lee]