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morscata12
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Here's what I think happened:
Slender Man distorts the video (the first few seconds of the entry) and cuts out the audio (when Alex turns on the lights, you can hear a lot of background noise). He sneaks slowly into the room and hides somewhere into the corner. As he's hiding, he hits Alex, waking him up and causing him to start bleeding. Alex wonders why his door is open and goes to close it, then goes back to bed.

32 minutes later, Alex appears to be in a trance waiting to change the tape. I don't think he realizes he is covered in blood, otherwise he would have cleaned it off. He is either traumatized or is under Slender Man's hypnotic control. Option 2 could explain why Alex is filming himself. If he is routinely hypnotized by Slender Man, then he needs a long-term way to keep track of his interactions with Slender Man (since he can't trust his memory).

Glad J is going to start the search for Alex. I have a feeling Entries 1-14 have set the stage for something really good. Still, would anyone go to a Marble Hornets event if you knew the Slender Man was lurking around? Shocked

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rushinge wrote:


Can you make anything of the horizontal visual tearing displayed in many of the entries? The only cause I've been able to find for that is if encoding equipment can't process fast enough to keep up with the raw visual data being fed into it. Thinking about what's going on here it seems to me the most likely scenario is that J is running into that problem when he's encoding the tapes into his computer with whatever capture equipment he's using to make the videos.
I'm kind of hoping/thinking that the tearing is the unintended result of encoding some additional information into the video stream and the math involved in this encoding process results in noticeable visual artifacts.
One thing I thought of trying, is paying attention to the height that the visual tear occurs at. If Alex is intentionally responsible for this tearing (though I have no idea how he could be) then perhaps he has manipulated the height to send us a message, heck maybe J has since there has been mention of us not being able to trust him. Maybe you could edit a clip together with all of the instances of visual tearing and something will leap out at you or us.

Also there is additional visual distortion in Entry #12 which becomes quite startlingly obvious at around the 30 second mark. Any ideas you might have on the cause of that would be quite welcome. I haven't seen any mention of anyone performing an in depth video and audio analysis of the distortions present in the Entry videos. Has anyone even gone frame by frame through point in Entry #12 where it goes completely haywire?


Will do. I have a theory about the tearing. Let me look at it first.

EDIT: I'm re-watching the videos to get back into the mindset, and in the introduction, J says that it's been "after three years and zero contact"... maybe I'm grasping at straws, but zero = 0 = operator?

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morscata12 wrote:
If he is routinely hypnotized by Slender Man, then he needs a long-term way to keep track of his interactions with Slender Man (since he can't trust his memory).


This would explain the drawings all over the place, but if he is constantly hypnotised, then how would he remember to draw the pictures? I'm sure SM wouldn't let him do it while under his control. Unless SM is letting him for undisclosed reasons.

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GrimBloodyFable wrote:
morscata12 wrote:
If he is routinely hypnotized by Slender Man, then he needs a long-term way to keep track of his interactions with Slender Man (since he can't trust his memory).


This would explain the drawings all over the place, but if he is constantly hypnotised, then how would he remember to draw the pictures? I'm sure SM wouldn't let him do it while under his control. Unless SM is letting him for undisclosed reasons.


I honestly don't think there is any hypnotism going on here. Just extreme paranoia/mental instability. I don't see Alex doing anything that he couldn't be doing on his own terms.

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twixbucket wrote:

I honestly don't think there is any hypnotism going on here. Just extreme paranoia/mental instability. I don't see Alex doing anything that he couldn't be doing on his own terms.


Agreed. I don't think his expression there is a trance, I think that's frustration. Looks to me like he's just sitting waiting for the tape to run out because he feels needs to replace it before he does anything else.

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Grooze wrote:
twixbucket wrote:

I honestly don't think there is any hypnotism going on here. Just extreme paranoia/mental instability. I don't see Alex doing anything that he couldn't be doing on his own terms.


Agreed. I don't think his expression there is a trance, I think that's frustration. Looks to me like he's just sitting waiting for the tape to run out because he feels needs to replace it before he does anything else.


Ya I get that feeling too, like he's extremely discouraged and deflated not in a trance. To me his attitude seems like what it would be if Slenderman bloodies him up every night and he's tried everything he can think of but he can't do anything about it.

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I dunno if anyone caught my edit above, and it's probably just grasping at nothing, but:

I'm re-watching the videos to get back into the mindset, and in the introduction, J says that it's been "after three years and zero contact"... maybe I'm grasping at straws, but zero = 0 = operator?

Also.

I'm about to delve into the technical editing stuff, but my best guess would be that all the "visual" aka "digital" tearing we're seeing is put there on purpose. It's way too perfect: almost as if the bottom sections are replaced with other footage, but nothing too jarring like putting something from 7 tapes away.

I'll try and show you guys examples of the tearing I'm used to VS what's going on here.

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That's an intriguing idea! Maybe if the sections are put together in the right way something new will show up that's not apparent while they're separate. Seems tricky though. I noticed in Entry #14 at the very beginning that there is another tear that begins at the bottom then climbs up to about 2/5ths of the way up before disappearing so they don't stay in the same place. In that instance it really looks like it's 'rolling' off the top of the frame and up the bottom. I dunno, but I think you're probably right when you say the quality of the tearing is different than what you've seen before. Would verify my theory that this isn't normal distortion caused by an encoding buffer overrun.

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Theycallmehsexypants
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You know, it's possible this tape is late in the game, and Alex was just willing attack SM, and he recorded the result. This could be why he moved and decided to stop Marble Hornets

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carpathianroses
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Is @itmustbedone IG?

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For right now, we have to assume that itmustbedone is just a gamejack.

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morscata12
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rushinge wrote:
I dunno, but I think you're probably right when you say the quality of the tearing is different than what you've seen before. Would verify my theory that this isn't normal distortion caused by an encoding buffer overrun.


ToTheArk's clip of J getting batteries from the car had the same sort of visual distortion. It reminds me of a film reel starting up at a movie theater. I tried putting a frame together that was split, but didn't see anything unusual right away.

My favorite theory is that it's a side effect of SM teleporting. Considering how slowly he shuffles into Alex's room, it's possible he needs some "help" traveling large distances. Could also be the camera's reaction to a supernatural being, or a purposeful act on the camera by SM. Entry 14 shows a SM unafraid of the camera, so maybe he doesn't care about getting filmed as much as we though - or he's just taking more risks.

Alex definitely looked freaked out in this entry, though I don't know why he doesn't get help from the MH camera crew. They've all seen SM skulking about so they'd believe his story.

Would moving really protect Alex? If so, SM might be bound to a particular location on Earth. If not, then it was just a desperate act by Alex.

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morscata12 wrote:
They've all seen SM skulking about so they'd believe his story.


I don't know about this. The camera girl asks "What is he doing?", maybe she is asking the other actor of what Alex is doing instead of what SM is doing.


I'm still doing technical stuff, this is taking forever. I don't know if the tearing is there for teleporting, but maybe just an interference/visual marker to let us know something is about to happen.

I can remember learning about visual warnings in other movies, a paperweight in one, and of course, the color red in The Sixth Sense.

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Is anyone here good with morse code? I for one know that I'm terrible with it. Well, you know how nobody has figured out what Deluge was about, I have a pretty good theory of figuring it out.

To me, I see a flickering florescence light. To me, I hear someone saying "Alexxx", but reversed. Well, when I added some visual darkening, and some contrast, the light was flickering in a morse code fashion that you'd see two old surfaced submarines using. (Saw that in some movie. They used giant spotlights with slats on the front of them.) Well, in the Deluge thread, I posted my video. Currently, I can't find anyway of slowing it down past 1/2. I can almost GUARANTEE that it is Morse code in the video.

So please, if you can do Morse code, do this for the us.

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Knolly
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RedBlade2021 wrote:
So please, if you can do Morse code, do this for the us.

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html
BOOM

I have the video downloaded, but even frame by frame, the difficulty is figuring out what counts as a blip and a space and whatnot...

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