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[VIDEO] Program
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Sirdangolot5
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rotting_octoberist wrote:
Well that's nice and ambigious... >__< agraah!



Eh, not really. Right after the slashes it says "CLOSELY" so we have "LOOK CLOSELY."

But... look closely at what? So far all we've been able to decipher are messages where the cleartext is some equally indecipherable cryptic hint.

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lifegospel
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Three repeats.... three sets of slashes?

Maybe we try ALL the text on the 12x12, 15x15 and 11x11 grids?
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fezzik
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I'm sure this is nothing you guys haven't thought of, but 2 things I noticed. First is of course that Kralie is an odd last name(*), and happens to be Ark backwards followed by "lie". Ark Lie.

The other thing is that obviously the names of the totheark videos seem stilted. "Deluge"? "Program"? The only thing I can make of them is that the first letters (R, O, D, I, E, P) spell the word PERIOD. Like, perhaps as in wavelength?

* In fact it's so odd that in the 1990 census (http://www.census.gov/genealogy/names/dist.all.last), it doesn't show up at all, which means less than 100 people reported having that last name.

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I haven't watched most of the Entries because this sort of thing really freaks me out, but someone showed me this and the puzzle/story really interests me, so I've been been reading the wiki for the descriptions/transcriptions of the videos and read through the trailhead thread here. So I'm probably not going to be much help, but I had an idea about the code in the doorway. Going off the binary someone posted earlier, it translates to 25 1 7 1, or YAGA. There is also the S in the bottom corner (or some other character/symbol that resembles an S). If you translate the binary into hexidecimal instead of decimal, it is 19 1 7 1, or SAGA. The only thing that changes is the Y turns into the letter in the lower left, as if that could be a hint to the different translation, and it makes an actual word.

This doesn't really seem helpful, and the grille idea and the idea to overlay the words on the grid and only use ones that match zeros or dashes seem much more promising, but I figured it might be useful to have as many different possible approaches out there as we can just in case.

Also, the thing that bothers me about the grille theory is that grilles generally turn messages into incomprehensible gibberish, not other words, so feeding words into a grille is likely to just have the reverse effect (turning actual words into gibberish). Someone mentioned a while back the idea of putting the gibberish morse code translations from other videos into the grille instead, which seems more likely if the code really is a grille. Another thing is that codes that use grilles are really just anagrams, so if you can produce all the possible anagrams of the group of letters, you should be able to find the message, or at least possibilities, without knowing the grille. The grille just makes it easier.

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Kincaid wrote:
Another thing is that codes that use grilles are really just anagrams, so if you can produce all the possible anagrams of the group of letters, you should be able to find the message, or at least possibilities, without knowing the grille. The grille just makes it easier.

I feel very stupid now. Embarassed

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Volume
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Kincaid wrote:

Another thing is that codes that use grilles are really just anagrams, so if you can produce all the possible anagrams of the group of letters, you should be able to find the message, or at least possibilities, without knowing the grille.
Going off of this, maybe it's one grille for it all. I was thinking about

"Rat" "He" Ore" Top" which we know means The Operator. Find the grill that gets us that and you find the grille that matches the others?

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morscata12
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Volume wrote:
Going off of this, maybe it's one grille for it all. I was thinking about

"Rat" "He" Ore" Top" which we know means The Operator. Find the grill that gets us that and you find the grille that matches the others?


Here's the rearrangement code I did for the Exit video (it's 1-12, where A=11 and B=12. There are at most two alternative numbers per letter):
Code:
r a t   h e   o r e   t o p
7 8 1   2 3   4 7 3   1 4 5
B   9     6   A B 6   9 A 


These are the messages from the totheark videos:
Code:
regards     C L0 SE LY
operator    L I S T E N
deluge      WATCHING YOU
impurity    THERE WAS M0RE
exit        RAT HE ORE TOP
program     ble ed mo re


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TheNightmareComplex
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I have no idea what that means, to be honest.

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morscata12
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
I have no idea what that means, to be honest.


Just posting the textual messages from the totheark videos in case a grille master wants to have a go at them. Honestly, I doubt there's anything there but it helps to have similar information grouped together.

Speaking of grilles, someone should try taking the "there was more" picture and cutting holes where the letters are, then overlaying that onto different videos. Maybe that's a grille for something.

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TNC
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Oooh.

I see...

I have an idea.

Take all those words that we've got listed, and arrange them so that they fit into the "THERE WAS MRE" grilles. Arrange the rows so that they say, literally, "THERE WAS MRE." If we can. Then, from there, use the other grilles on it. Sort of like the key to the code.

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TNC
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ALSO! I noticed that the filmreel/ticking sound stop as soon as the footage of the house ends, however, the music continues on until the end of the entire video.

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RedBlade2021
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TNC wrote:
ALSO! I noticed that the filmreel/ticking sound stop as soon as the footage of the house ends, however, the music continues on until the end of the entire video.


Maybe the music was on-scene, and the filmreel was added in?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:19 pm
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TNC
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I don't know. To clarift: Once the footage of the house ends, and "Bleedmore" appears, the music is still playing for the remainder of the movie. However, the filmreel/ticking ends with the house footage.

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Xenophobe
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All right. I have a couple ideas. For one, has anybody tried building on this idea, by splicing the SMPTE color bars, shifting them up a few pixels so they line up perfectly, then applying the same change for the whole clip? That may be what the color bars are trying to tell us to do.

badresponse wrote:
twixbucket wrote:
I just spent some time looking at them, and it almost looks overlaid like the rest of the video.


That's because they are:

A normal SMPTE Colour Bars image (taken from Wikipedia):



The same image, with the original layer duplicated, shifted down a few pixels, then reduced in opacity to about 17% (all done in photoshop):



The image at the beginning of Program:



Also, as a side note, the nearest rain in the clip appears to be dripping off from something, implying that it was shot from either inside another building, or under an overhang.

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TNC
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That actually sounds kind of interesting.

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