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[SPEC] Source of the axon wavs an existing work?
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Bubba Wilkins
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[SPEC] Source of the axon wavs an existing work?

Upon initial listening of the axon files prior to them being assembled, it appeared to me that they were clips from an existing work. I couldn't shake the thought they originated in an anime movie/series. The clips about Jan's little adventure where almost familier. I did initially try to search for which one, but with little more than some character names, I was unable to isolate a single source/work.

I am, for the following reasons, convinced that these files have been clipped from an existing work:

1) Anything created by Bungie and related to Halo inherently references existing works.
2) The clips are overdone to be merely part of a game(an ARG that is). The ambiant and background noise included would be required for a movie/series but not for radio.
3) The sheer number of character voices involved indicates at least 10 different people performing the scripts. (or a few really talented ones)
4) None of the voices we here in the clips sound like the voices we have heard from the existing Halo/Halo2 voice acting.
5) The settings and references in the clips are close enough to match the Haloverse without out being directly recognizable. They also match any futuristic setting within which AI's, colonization, and space travel/exploration exist.
6) The axon's starting going hot on tuesday which also happens to be the standard release date of all DVD's here in the states.

Anyway, I have yet to find a singular title that matches the clips but I'm sure if there is one someone will come across it eventually.

Anybody else get the same feeling?


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I did at first. After a few times listening through them, however, I've changed my opinion. The voice acting is rather...hasty. The characters are responding too fast in some cases, and completely random in others. For example, when Jan is given her PQI, the officer asks her a question and she responds normally, then goes off on a tangent talking in some valley-girl voice. It just feels a little weird. But it seems to be original.

Maybe Bungie is making a Halo anime? Very Happy
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Bubba Wilkins
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You have a point about the rushing sequences, but that could also be an indication of dubbing into english to match the lip movements.

Now that I'm thinking about it, the humor of the restaurant/date clips sounds alot like somehting you would hear in an anime. One dork being given bad dating advice/information through an earpiece from another dork who is reading from a book...w/ references?

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voipme wrote:
I did at first. After a few times listening through them, however, I've changed my opinion. The voice acting is rather...hasty. The characters are responding too fast in some cases, and completely random in others. For example, when Jan is given her PQI, the officer asks her a question and she responds normally, then goes off on a tangent talking in some valley-girl voice. It just feels a little weird. But it seems to be original.

Maybe Bungie is making a Halo anime? Very Happy


Jan was most likely being sarcastic.

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SpghEddy
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In several of Frankie's Weekly 2 Halo Updates, he talks about the sheer amount of voice work done for the new game, compared to the old one. I'm guessing that some of the voice work was also for this ARG.

Also, in some cases, it sounds like the actors were not in the studio together, but recorded separately, and stitched together, which might be why some of the dialogues sound a little rushed or unnatural.

At any rate, there aren't any existing Halo products that these would be clilps from -- these are definitely new, and for the game. Though, there could always be spinoff products being developed that continue to fill in the story of the Haloverse...

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Could be scenes from a Halo movie or something.

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Bubba Wilkins
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Actually, I was thinking it was movie that actually has nothing to do with Halo or the Haloverse. None of the clips actually contain any direct terms or references to known Halo objects. I would infer that the work was chosen prior to and has been since made relevant by the text posted on the ilovebees site for that very reason.

Then again I could be completely wrong.

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I don't get that feeling at all? After all, it's clear, from past references, that ilovebees is directly releated to the Haloverse. Why muddy the waters with something else?

Further, the clips seem to much to be radio dramas. They don't sound like a TV program stripped of the visuals. I disagree that the level of detail wouldn't be required for radio. If anything, radio would need to have a LOT more detail contained in the typical tv series. Besides, TV is primarily a visual medium, and it'd probably be a LOT harder to follow the story without the visual.

And, I don't think this would be beyond Bungie or Microsoft. After all, the first Halo had at least six voice actors.

And, don't forget, the kitchen axons reference Halo.

Nothing absolutely clinched in my mind, either way, but I'm definitely of the opinion that these are original.

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Bubba Wilkins wrote:
Actually, I was thinking it was movie that actually has nothing to do with Halo or the Haloverse. None of the clips actually contain any direct terms or references to known Halo objects. I would infer that the work was chosen prior to and has been since made relevant by the text posted on the ilovebees site for that very reason.

Then again I could be completely wrong.
I'm new here, so help me out, old-timers: is it still considered trout if it's both an old idea AND completely wrong?

We know from the earlier stages' text that the colony world of Troy was facing an impending attack (an extreme orbital bombardment, aka "glassing") by the Covenant.

The new recipe3 axons are referring specifically to this same scenario, and additionally, letting us know that at least some residents of Troy were alerted to the attack and evacuated by marines.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is new material. And it does seem to play out a bit like a radio drama -- in the sense that the sound and dialogue will in places seem to proceed a bit more quickly than they would if they needed to correspond to visual events. (e.g. a door slams and a character immediately begins talking to another, with no pause for them to walk around).

So unless Bungie is creating Halo: The Radio Drama, I am convinced that these audio clips are entirely original.
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Well, trout is used for factually incorrect and/or something old.

But, trout is supposed to be used as a gesture of respect. A gentle touch to show someone that they're wrong, and evidence so they can be corrected.

Still, I'm not sure trout is useful here. Especially since it's meaning has been somewhat corrupted. [OT] Sad that. I thought trout was the greatest concept since Cathod Ray Tubes. Since then, the meaning has shifted and been corrupted. It makes me sad, but such is life.[/OT]

Anyway, listening to the kitchen clip that recently came online (troy) it seems the cantakerous old man has experienced the same oddity that happened in the other three stories. So, they're connected, and they mention the Covenant specifically.

So, meh, I don't think this has anything to do with anything Bungie stole or "reappropiated".

Luke P.

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Or it could be JUST for ILB?

Why is it so hard to imagine that it's not Halo 3 or a movie or anime or tv series or off-broadway play? It is what it is.

-Atoner-

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Listening to the whole thing, I get a distinct feeling it was written specifically for audio (for instance, why would someone writing for, say, TV include detail such as a character going "Oh my god, she jumped!", when he could just show that on the screen?)

Since there are very few radio dramas these days (and even fewer based on video games), ones gotta assume it was made for the ILB game.

Anyone remember the old LucasFilm game called Loom? It came with a audio cassette which included a radio drama produced by a professional theater company. It was very slick, very cool, and ILB reminds me very much of it. I hope we get lots more wav files.

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Bubba Wilkins
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I suppose I over simplified it by saying radio. What I meant to say is that the production in the audio clips exceeds that which I would expect for strictly audio medium. The ambient noise in all the clips is not necessary to convey any additional information that the primary dialog and sound effects don't already cover. It would be necessary to explain background "visual" noise, i.e other patrons in a restaurant and so forth.

As for the why would he say "oh my god she jumped" etc. it could easily be explained that he was the only one of the two guards watching the video feed at that particular moment. The other guard could have been turned away from the screen to contact whoever it was he was communicating with...."send a medic"....

Prior to ILB, there where no mentions of Troy or Coral. Troy was intruduced in the imbedded text as a colony that got glassed. Then we get these axon files that reference it. For instance, the new axon files only say that the man left Troy and that it was at the direction of some marines....only the text on ILB further elaborates that the planet was glassed by the convenant making that group of clips relevent to the Haloverse.

I have yet to hear a direct reference in any of the audio files to something distinctly and uniquely a part of the Haloverse. A mention of the Spartans, ONI, Ship names, important people, locations (other than Earth), the Covenant, planet glassing, etc. Thise is why I'm convinced that the source of these audio clips is an existing production.

I challenge anyone who disagrees to point to just one reference made in any of the audio clips that is easily recognizable to Halo or the three Novels but is meaningless without the additional information found on ILB. I also challenge anyone who agrees to find the source of the clips. Either will render the entire argument mute.

I do not think there is a HALO movie in production, existance, or anywhere near those two states at this time.


Until someone meets one of the two challenges (or both *shudders*)...this is certainly not Trout...by any definition.

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Is this, ILB, the first mention of the "chatternet" in the Halo mileux then? Or of roads that drive cars for you? Or of "PQI", "pop quizes"?

I haven't read the books so, I have to ask. Very Happy

Perhaps what you're looking for will be in the hello.wav on the recipe3.html page...

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Bubba Wilkins
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Thats a good point.

As far as I remember, none of those items have ever been referenced in the Haloverse until now....

For that matter, we never heard of a shortage of Tuna either....which has been discussed in other threads.

The books were almost entirely based on military settings so almost anything civilian would be foreign to the Haloverse.

Easy to explain if they were already there (existing work)....harder so if they were deliberately added just for the purposes of this ARG.

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