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Sirdangolot5
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I'm actually pretty convinced that the house in entry #16 is Alex's. Just because of a few things:

-J's Twitter post reading that it was "Brian's House" was deleted, leaving the location to be described as "where Brian could be located."

-The first name J calls out is indeed Alex's.

-There have been quite a few noted similarities between the houses in earlier entries and that of 16

-Alex's drawings are found in the house (J's explanation confirms them as Alex's)

-And this is just speculation, but I think the reason that J acted so confidently and quickly after hearing an "anonymous tip" (surely, a doubtful source of info) was because he recognized the address as Alex's, and found it way to big of a coincidence to be meaningless.

And then I've got another theory where in a lot of entries that don't give the cameraman a positive I.D., it's actually Brian. But I don't give that much credit.

Tl;dr: Someone (TTA?) gave J Alex's address and said Brian could be found there.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:14 am
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Kilo
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You know, I was about to make some comments, but I realized that J never said that Alex moved away, he said he simply transferred schools- as is stated in the introduction.

I feel that one aspect of the timeline that is overlooked is what happens after the tapes. Alex doesn't seem to be in the self-narration business, he simply records. So there would be no last tape, with Alex stating that he's giving up, etc. He would simply decide to stop recording. Why would he suddenly stop recording? I mean, he obviously wanted a record of whatever. So, he stops recording, is about to destroy the tapes, and switches schools.

My interpretation of this is that Alex achieved some kind of closure on this whole thing, whatever it may be. I also feel like it may be directly related to people he knows, on account of him switching schools.

I'm in several camps, but this one kind of reaffirms my belief in SM being passed off to people. What if Alex did pass it off to Brian, and then left Brian out to hang, and switched schools to try and get away from the guilt?

...man, it sounds good, but too many holes. Like why there would be drawings still tacked up in the house. I know J says they're Alex's, but that could just be a natural assumption, since there was footage of him drawing, but maybe they were Brian's... or Alex could've given them away, just like the tapes.

Yea, too many holes.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:24 am
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Grooze
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
how would moving away solve anything?


"FORGET WHAT I SEE"

[opinion]

Actually I don't have a coherent and well supported opinion on this, it just seems relevant.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:59 am
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justcurious
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Kilo wrote:
You know, I was about to make some comments, but I realized that J never said that Alex moved away, he said he simply transferred schools- as is stated in the introduction.

I feel that one aspect of the timeline that is overlooked is what happens after the tapes. Alex doesn't seem to be in the self-narration business, he simply records. So there would be no last tape, with Alex stating that he's giving up, etc. He would simply decide to stop recording. Why would he suddenly stop recording? I mean, he obviously wanted a record of whatever. So, he stops recording, is about to destroy the tapes, and switches schools.



I wrote Alex back in August when something came up in here about his dog.
His reply:
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Thank you for the interest. As far as I know, Alex took his dog with him when he left for where ever he is now.
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So I'm pretty sure J was at least under the impression that Alex moved.

As for the reason behind not filming himself anymore/handing over the tapes; Isn't it possible that Alex just realized that the video wasn't helping? That the obsession had passed and hopelessness had settled in?


Grooze wrote:
"FORGET WHAT I SEE"


Yes. Moving may have been a last resort to "forget".
Especially if he saw him more often through video.

Too many holes is right.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:00 pm
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TheNightmareComplex
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You guys are reading, but you're not listening. Which is INFINITELY harder to do when using a text-based communication medium.

Er, never mind.

Anyway, I still am unconvinced that this is Alex's house. There are entries that bare a certain resemblance to this, but we won't know unless J goes back and gives us a more detailed floor plan. However, in Entry 3, again, Alex is clearly in some kind of study or something, when he ignores that Cell Phone call. Just going off of the overall scheme of the room, it looks, at first glance, to be an entirely different building than the ones shown in later Entries.

So, I am unconvinced. I believe Alex left his home 3 years ago, staying in a house out in the woods, later joined by Brian. Alex left, Brian stayed.

Only one of them has gone insane.

Alex, last anyone heard from, was still within the tender grasp of sane thought, as J probably would have driven him to the nut house the day Entry 0 [Introduction] took place.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Sirdangolot5 wrote:
Alex's drawings are found in the house (J's explanation confirms them as Alex's)


I'm sure I've said this before, but we CANNOT confirm that the drawings are Alex's just because J said so. Because, pardon my French, how the fuck would he know, right? For all J knows Slender Man drew them and left them in that house to lead him down the wrong track. I prefer the theory that they're Brian's because of the different writing styles, but again, anything is possible.

I do agree that some of the scenes of the houses appear different, although the cabin-esque room where his cellphone alarm goes off in Entry #3 doesn't have a bed in it, and it seems to be situated on the first floor of whatever building he is in. It's also full of shit and I don't recall seeing any other entries take place in there, or seeing that room in Entry #16.

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kevrock
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There's also the possibility that it may actually be the same house IRL, but inside the game its two different places (i.e., locations are limited by production values).

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:16 pm
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madebz
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Its hard to come to any conclusion from what we have so far. 16 could possibly Alex's house, but its hard to tell because is this house just a "set" or is it in actuality the house Alex filmed himself in or both. J found (Alex) drawings in the room, found the blood from the room that Alex filmed himself that could possibly connected to the entry 14.

Its hard to put the connections together without J's help.

The house (16)
- same house throughout Alex's tapings?
- same house from 14?
- or is it just a set in a set ( Alex's house + Not Alex's house)

What J found in 16:

Blood
- Is it blood from 14? (This house would be Alex's house or Alex's secret hide out house(if there even was such a thing)

Drawings ( J committed to its Alex's Drawings)
- Is it the drawings that Alex had hung up in his room? (This house would be Alex's house or Alex's secret hide out house)

Bullet Shell
- BRAND SPANKING NEW item that hasn't been connected to anything yet

BONE R S
- written in the utility room



Its so hard with the information we got to make a positive identification on which is and what is not right. Hell it all could be right or wrong. This house could be Alex's house, and Alex's super secret hideout (if that is even half true), and just a set due to "student film". So maybe its not all that important? Maybe all that is important is that J found "Alex's Drawings", "Blood", "Bullet Shell" and all we can do is just wait for the next video.

We are at the work of J, so all we can do is sit back and watch because so far in 100+ pages we haven't helped J with squat nor has he cared.

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TheAtroxious
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Oye, and I thought things were only getting tense in-game.

Personally, I think SM is really paranormal. Not only would it be one of the biggest letdowns in film history if he wasn't, but what reason would the cast and crew of Marble Hornets have to go to such lengths to scare Alex like that? Distort the tapes, stalk him everywhere, day and night, break into his house without making a sound.

I dunno. I think we just need more information is all.

I do enjoy the idea that because Alex was stalking SM at first, SM decided to start stalking Alex in return. A sort of, "Take that, bastard" move.

On another note, I think I passed a little rite of initiation with my first slender man dream. Something about sneaking around the city and getting messages from him. I didn't ever actually see him, though.

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GrimBloodyFable
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TheAtroxious wrote:
Oye, and I thought things were only getting tense in-game.

Personally, I think SM is really paranormal. Not only would it be one of the biggest letdowns in film history if he wasn't, but what reason would the cast and crew of Marble Hornets have to go to such lengths to scare Alex like that? Distort the tapes, stalk him everywhere, day and night, break into his house without making a sound.

I dunno. I think we just need more information is all.

I do enjoy the idea that because Alex was stalking SM at first, SM decided to start stalking Alex in return. A sort of, "Take that, bastard" move.

On another note, I think I passed a little rite of initiation with my first slender man dream. Something about sneaking around the city and getting messages from him. I didn't ever actually see him, though.


I think this is all too elaborate to be a simple prank, but I like the revenge stalking idea.

Also, having a dream about SM isn't a good thing. After a while, if you're anything like me, you'll start seeing him in patches of trees and stuff.
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TheAtroxious
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Actually, I already go about glancing at things that bear a passing resemblance to SM. But I really like the guy, so it doesn't exactly bother me.

I guess I'm pretty lucky he doesn't really scare me, 'cause my house is kind of surrounded by trees, even though I live in the city. Plus I live in the neighborhood "creepy house," the kind small children try to avoid, so...yeah. Eheh.

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GrimBloodyFable
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Yup, you're pretty much boned then.

On a lighter note, I hate the long periods of time like this one where there is absolutely zilcho new information and we have to wait what seems to be an eternity.

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morscata12
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Back to the Basics - J's SA introduction to MH

About two or three years ago, a film school friend of mine, Alex, was working on his first "feature length" movie. It was called Marble Hornets and I think it was about a twenty something returning to his childhood home and recalling events that happened there. It was pretty pretentious film student fare, but I helped out for a few days before my summer classes started, and a few rare occasions after that. Everyone on the set seemed pretty excited to be making it, especially Alex. The set itself was about half a mile away from Alex's house, roughly a thirty minute drive away from where I lived at the time. It was a pretty heavily wooded area, I guess to give it a sparsely populated small town feel. Most of the movie took place outside.

After about two months of off and on shooting, Alex dropped his pet project completely. It was really sudden when he let me know about it. When I asked him why, he told me it was because of the "unworkable conditions" of where he had picked to shoot. Which struck me as very odd since he had been living around that area since he was eight, and never seemed to have a problem with it. What's even stranger is that he acted incredibly distant when telling me this news. Soon after, he started avoiding me and from what I hear, everyone else. All he did was sit around his house.

Being a film student as well, I hated to see his work go to waste and decided to talk to him about it a bit more. A few weeks after he had stopped shooting, I finally convinced him to let me come over.

Something about him was worse than I'd originally thought. He had lost a good bit of weight, and looked pretty sickly. I pretended like I didn't notice and we just hung out for awhile. Right before I left, I asked him about Marble Hornets and what he was planning on doing with all of his tapes of raw footage. With almost no hesitation, he simply said "burn them".

This caught me off guard. When I asked why he didn't just archive them for B-roll in future projects, he just said he never wanted to work with the footage again. He was completely serious about this. I couldn't understand why he'd just want to get rid of it completely. Surely it wasn't all that useless. So I asked if I could take a look at them.

He agreed, but only under the circumstance that I never bring them back to him, and never discuss what was on them with him. He also highly discouraged me from showing any if it to anyone else. I laughed at this, and said that he must have accidentally made The Ring or something with the way he was talking. He didn't acknowledge this and brought me up to his attic, where he was storing the pile of tapes.

There were tons of them. He grabbed a couple of plastic shopping bags and piled the tapes in and gave them to me, then shooed me out of the attic. Right as I was walking out the door, he said, in the most serious tone I've ever heard from someone, "I'm not kidding, don't ever bring this up around me again."

Alex's comment was so sudden that I didn't have time to react before he had closed the door on me. He transferred to an out of state school soon after that and I haven't seen him since.

I filed the tapes separately from my others, and was honestly too freaked out to look at them at the time, and eventually forgot about them. But reading about the slender man has peaked my interest again. Maybe it's what Alex was talking about that day.

I've decided to begin going through the tapes later tonight. If I don't do it now, I probably never will. I'm hoping all I find is an unfinished student film and nothing else. That would sure put me at ease now that I'm thinking about it again.

If there's interest, I'll post anything that I find on here.

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GrimBloodyFable
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Can you tell me where you got that quote from? The Introduction video was never that detailed.

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Cas
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A post on the Something Awful forums.

Nice to see mention of The Ring.. Also interesting is Alex letting J view the tapes, but adamant that no one else does. I still think Alex was trying to pawn SM off to J.

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